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sthrnfryedyankee
October 2, 2010, 02:57 PM
I just finished the metal finish (did myself) about 2 days ago and the stock yesterday. I am debating on putting a camo finish on it I just dont know because this black is sooooooooo durn sexy. Here is a pic of the 95% finished rifle with the black barreled action and stock. Let me know your thoughts. In case anyone wants to know what paint I used for the action it is called VHT satin epoxy paint and it is used for various car parts. Dont hold back folks tell me your honest opinions.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s176/nylouie516/Rifle/DSCN6101Medium.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s176/nylouie516/Rifle/DSCN6102Medium.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s176/nylouie516/Rifle/DSCN6103Medium.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s176/nylouie516/Rifle/DSCN6104Medium.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s176/nylouie516/Rifle/DSCN6107Medium.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s176/nylouie516/Rifle/DSCN6109Medium.jpg

P5 Guy
October 2, 2010, 04:35 PM
That rifle is screaming for a Camo Finish:D

Brian Pfleuger
October 2, 2010, 04:54 PM
The metal looks really nice but I haaaate the way those black composite stocks look. I'm not normally a fan, but that gun might look pretty neat with a "digital" camo pattern. Personally, I'd go wood or wood laminate thumbhole, highly polished.

S&W Kinda Guy
October 2, 2010, 05:03 PM
I think it would look good with this finish.
http://www.houtsenterprises.net/dur_acu.html

hooligan1
October 2, 2010, 07:01 PM
Pete no way!;) this frydyankee fellar knows what he wants!!(by the way I'll take mine hand-tossed) Did you also finish the bolt? If so give me your address I will send you some work for sure!!! Hey look up Iron Brigade Armory, the camo patterns are pretty cool, maybe some good ideas!!;):D Is it durable? Looks like Wrinklepaint.

sthrnfryedyankee
October 2, 2010, 07:07 PM
Hooligan, I did not finish the bolt as I knew the bolt would be cycling constantly. As far as work I really want to see how this finish works out before I commit to accepting work/money from anyone. I may try finishing my HD shotgun barrel and beatin on it (respectfully) to see how that finish holds up. As far as looks, it looks amazing but I want to make sure that it keeps up with the durability. Shoot me a PM and maybe we can work somethin out.

hooligan1
October 2, 2010, 07:09 PM
Right on dude!! and hey peetza you know I'm just kidding man.;) It's pretty sweet now, but ckeck out those ironbrigade patterns!!

chris in va
October 3, 2010, 10:23 AM
It's very...monochromatic. Could use some contrast.

shooter_john
October 3, 2010, 10:31 AM
I've never been a fan of black rifles at all (when only speaking of color). Camo all the way!!! I'm thinking a nice GAP camo would be fitting on that rig... OD or Coyote on the metal, GAP pattern on the stock. Just my opinion, I am not a fan of digital.

What make and model stock is that by the way? It looks very nice!

sthrnfryedyankee
October 3, 2010, 01:25 PM
The stock is a SA-SA2 made by Wild Dog Stocks in Australia. I found a dealer here in the states so I grabbed 1 while I could

Jo6pak
October 3, 2010, 01:51 PM
Nice refinishing.
Look into DuraCoat for the stock refinishing.
http://duracoat-firearm-finishes.com/duracoat_patterns.htm

Telgriff
October 3, 2010, 06:46 PM
+1 for Duracoat. As far as camo is concerned. It depends on what you want it to look like and where you are going to use it! If its for just a different look then take your pick (use the Wild dog camo options as ideas). If its for actual use then go with something similar to the environment you will be in (obviously). I have lots of grasslands where I am so I have a grassland camo on my stock and its perfect for breaking up the profile - though the scope sticks out!

DocCasualty
October 3, 2010, 06:54 PM
I think it looks good as is, yeah even kind of sexy. Nice job. I'm partial to wood stocks, though don't know how painting a wood finish would look on composite. Camo on a rifle like that looks kind of kitschy to me.

I did the camo tape to my shotgun one year for turkey season and just ended up taking it off. Just didn't like the look and I'm pretty doubtful that every last thing in your possession while hunting has to be camo'd, since you're only trying to breakup silhouettes anyway.

kozak6
October 3, 2010, 08:01 PM
I'd say not to do it.

Most DIY camo jobs look bad. If you have faith in your abilities or don't care, go for it.

I know if I wanted a camo paintjob, I'd definitely send it out.

NWCP
October 3, 2010, 08:18 PM
Looks like you've done a nice job on your rifle. I'm afraid that I'm a bit old school when it comes to my weapons. Hunters have been taking game for a long, long time with plain Jane wood stocks and blued barrels. A coyote staring at the gun barrel face on will not notice the color of the rifle so as long as the hunter breaks up his own silhouette. If the rifle comes from the factory in camouflage that's OK with me. I just won't be modifying my own rifles. JMHO

Sport45
October 3, 2010, 08:29 PM
You can paint it any color you like.

How does it shoot?

Here is a pic of the 95% finished rifle with the black barreled action and stock.

Is the trigger in the 5% that's missing?

Ozzieman
October 4, 2010, 05:05 PM
Thanks for adding the address of that stock maker.
I like black guns so I personally would not. But with that said if you hunt wearing camo then you should shoot with camo.
I think it looks nice!
So it’s a Remington,, what caliber?
I would also be interested in what you had to do to prepare the metal before you put on the finish.

ndking1126
October 4, 2010, 05:11 PM
The stock is a SA-SA2 made by Wild Dog Stocks in Australia. I found a dealer here in the states so I grabbed 1 while I could

They finally made it across the ocean.. most excellent! Can you give us any more information? Who you bought it from, who much it cost? I've liked their stocks since the first time I stumbled across their website.

TheGoldenState
October 4, 2010, 05:12 PM
Normally i would say stick with the black, it looks GREAT. But that rifle, with the stock, and thumbhole would look even better with a nice "modern" camo finish.

Danny45
October 4, 2010, 07:37 PM
I'd go with French Army... http://www.houtsenterprises.net/dur_frencharmy.html


It's not like they use it. :D

Bagmup
October 5, 2010, 03:57 AM
Well this is a DYI and looks awesome...has me tempted..

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p199/kohley1/April-May09232.jpg

hooligan1
October 9, 2010, 07:12 AM
Bagmup, that's really pretty sweet dude!!:) Is the paint you used durable??

sthrnfryedyankee
October 9, 2010, 02:11 PM
Apparently I have had a bunch of replies that I didnt see.

Sport45 the trigger, tactical bolt knob, scope mount and scope are all that is missing.

ndking1123 I can provide you will all the info you need. I bought it from a gentlemen named Robert Wellesley and his email addy is [email protected] I payed $780 shipped. I know it is expensive but you only live once and I found an incredible way to justify the price, I will even share it with you. I would have payed $599+$20 S&H for the H-S Precision stock I wanted which would bring me to $620, then I would replace H-S's crappy recoil pad with a Pachmayr (which the WD Stock already has) that would be anywhere from $30-$60 depending on if I do it or if a gunsmith does it. That brings the total to $650-$680, that leaves me $100 difference SOOOOOO after eating Oscar Mayer hot dogs and french fries for a week I saved about $150 (I have expensive eating habits) I actually came out $50 ahead :-)

If anyone has anymore questions please dont hesitate to contact me.

ndking1126
October 9, 2010, 04:49 PM
$780, Ouch! Definitely more than I was hoping, but I was guessing with it coming from AU it would be expensive. Thanks for the reply and hope you enjoy it! You should give us a long-term update in a few months.

No worries though, I've got antelope steaks going on the barbie in about an hour and a half. :)

sthrnfryedyankee
October 9, 2010, 05:08 PM
Yeah, I did everything I could to justify tghe price and after all was said and done it feels perfect, looks perfect now I will have to see if she shoots perfect.

psychobily
October 9, 2010, 07:50 PM
sthrnfryedyankee, dude that is a sweet looking rifle!!! MUCH TOO NICE!!!! I'm not sure if'n I could paint that!!! Throw some black glass on top and call it the night rider!!!! :D

HotShot.444
October 9, 2010, 08:20 PM
Leave it black, and don't wiggle around quickly, stay stealthy. If you want to impress us here, it looks like you already know what to do with your weapon, so go for it. You do nice work. You might try some of that camo-slap-wrap clingy/not-sticky wrap just to see what it looks like. It can be reused several times.

TXGunNut
October 9, 2010, 08:41 PM
I like it as is, keep us posted on the durability. Duracoat looks nice too. I'm a big fan of blue steel and figured walnut but black works for me too, on occasion.

mxsailor803
October 11, 2010, 05:16 PM
I LIKE IT!!! How comfortable is that stock?

sthrnfryedyankee
October 11, 2010, 05:17 PM
mxsailor803, it is BEYOND comfortable

mxsailor803
October 11, 2010, 05:23 PM
Right on. Now are you shooting some wildcat caliber in that thing?

sthrnfryedyankee
October 11, 2010, 05:36 PM
308, I have to still add some parts and as soon as I get to the range ill send a report. I want to break the barrel in correctly.

AK103K
October 11, 2010, 06:24 PM
I suppose there are two schools of thought here, looking cool and what works. I've seen guns that look cool, that still really stick out, and ugly as hell guns that work great. The important thing is to break the overall outline. If you can do it "cool" thats a plus. :)

I've been painting guns since the 60's, mostly just using Testors model paints. They are 99.9% removeable(with some work), and their "military flats" line, will let you duplicate pretty much any pattern you like, if youre up to it.

Heres a couple I've done over the years....

German Flecktarn....

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b7d700b3127ccec27f9bf9592e00000010O00CYuWbdo5bsQe3nwk/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

Tropentarn (sort of).....

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b7d700b3127ccec27f2b68d8d700000010O00CYuWbdo5bsQe3nwk/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

Multicam (almost have the colors down)....

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d624b3127ccec49fb25824e800000040O00CYuWbdo5bsQe3nwk/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9cc32b3127ccef88e21a8e65d00000040O00CYuWbdo5bsQe3nwk/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

and going on 20+ year old paint jobs in the old ASAT pattern......
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b7d700b3127ccec27f8d53d8bf00000010O00CYuWbdo5bsQe3nwk/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

As simple as that ASAT looks, its still one of the most effective patterns I've used hunting. Like the newer Multicam, its a chameleon, and takes on surronding colors and seems to adapt. Its breakup is dramatic, even at longer ranges, where most others "blob" or run together.

sthrnfryedyankee
October 11, 2010, 06:40 PM
AK you did an excellent job on that first flecktarn pattern

AK103K
October 11, 2010, 06:41 PM
Thanks :)

Katophract
October 11, 2010, 06:43 PM
Here's a vid that shows how to do it simply and cheaply.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6gpVOWLOrk

thesheepdog
October 12, 2010, 08:37 AM
Duracoat!

Rifleman1776
October 12, 2010, 10:24 AM
You have to camo it.
Everyone knows you can't kill deer, or other game with a rifle that isn't camod. :rolleyes:
Do what you want.

AK103K
October 12, 2010, 06:06 PM
I've found there is a pretty big difference, especially when hunting birds. When properly cammied up and in the open, I usually get a lot more shooting in and closer shots, than when I'm not.

Turkey hunters around here also seem to favor camo over plain.

Deer hunting, the way most people seem to hunt them here (enclosed, elevated stands), it really doesnt matter.

People wise, put two people out at 100 yards along a tree line, and see who gets spotted first, even if they are cammied up. The guns profile is a dead giveaway, especially if someone is looking for it.

Katophract
October 12, 2010, 07:53 PM
Coyote hunting; camo is very important.

mxsailor803
October 15, 2010, 06:31 AM
well put AK

shanzlik
October 15, 2010, 12:58 PM
I'd try out camo on a different rifle first and see if you like how it comes out, then do this one. I did that approach by using my Bushmaster as a test subject. (Used Krylon flat camo spray paint and made my own patterns)

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n634/G27RR/BushmasterM4E2S.jpg

Katophract
October 15, 2010, 03:21 PM
I think that looks sweet!

Bones
October 15, 2010, 03:48 PM
I like "Gun Socks". It take just a few seconds to change my green/black tiger stripped to the Med. brown/light brown one.

AK103K
October 15, 2010, 03:52 PM
Some of the "ace bandage" type wraps about these days also work well. They are now made in a number of patterns and colors and are reusable. The stuff sticks to itself and forms to what you put it on.