View Full Version : What is your Favorite C&R Gun?

TX Hunter
July 9, 2010, 08:12 AM
This post is intended for fun, as we all love C&R Guns, or wouldnt be looking at this Forum.

My Question is, What is your Favorite, Curio and Relic Firearm.
You answer can only be one gun, and if you like please explain why this firearm is your favorite.

I will start this with my own personal favorite.
Its a tough choice, as I like several of them, but If I had to narrow it down, to which one I keep picking up, and looking at, and which one feels the best in my hands. My favorite rifle of all time is the Finnish M-39 Rifle.
Whats yours?

July 9, 2010, 09:19 AM
Number one is my pair of Winchester 1906s. One was my dad's when he was a kid and the other was my grandpa's when he was a kid.


Gramps, back in the early 1920s:


OK, OK, if I have to pick just one, then it's Gramps' rifle. You make this too hard!

July 9, 2010, 11:21 AM
M1 Garand.

July 9, 2010, 12:01 PM
You answer can only be one gun, and if you like please explain why this firearm is your favorite.
Whats yours?
I'm sorry, the question just doesn't compute.
Is it the Garand? The Red Nine Broomhandle? The 1911 Colt? The 1917 S&W? The P35 High Power? The SMLE No1 MkIII*? The M1 Carbine? The 1895 Winchester carbine? The sawed-off (to 21 inches, not done by me, I hasten to add) Parker Trojan? The 1897 Winchester?
Nope, the question is unanswerable. I can't pick just one.

July 9, 2010, 12:12 PM
Favorite? Man, that's a hard question? Just one? Can I rank them If I ranked them it would be a horizontal list, almost...

Arisaka Type 38 Carbine: First C&R. short, easy to point, no recoil, accurate as all get out. All the fun of a .22 with more punch and bigger bang.

M/N M44 carbine: Same reasons as above with heavier bullets and larger fireball...

Spanish M43 Mauser. Great Balance, beautiful wood, Great trigger (weird), really accurate.

R/C 98K. Great balance, nice trigger (no, really), accurate, completely durable and trustworthy backup hunting rifle. Plus its very existence in history proves that both Nazis and Communists are losers--and that makes me smile.

Tokarev T33: Pistols are fun, but not as much fun as rifles.
Makarov: Same as above, but not as much bang.

July 9, 2010, 12:43 PM
Any pre-mil Savage 99.
Particularly one in .250-3000.

July 9, 2010, 01:16 PM

July 9, 2010, 01:36 PM
Swedish Mauser

It is old

It is beautiful

It is rugged and reliable

It is accurate

July 9, 2010, 01:40 PM
Swedish Mauser M41B and Webley-Pryce No 4

WildlustAlaska TM

July 9, 2010, 03:44 PM
Of all my C&Rs I fall back to my love of Lugers, of all my Lugers I should choose a pre 1918 DWM but I choose my G date as favorite Luger due to functioning, look and reliability. It really does feel different too, not all lugers are alike.

If I had to choose my favorite C&R to carry, I'd have a hard time choosing between my browning 1910/22 and my 1911a1. Ahhhh;), if wearing a suit or something more formal - the 1910/22, any other time my 1911a1. Both very reliable, both designed by Moses Browning.

TX Hunter
July 9, 2010, 03:57 PM
You can list your favorites, but please start with your very favorite.:D
Wog Potter, your favorite is lovely.

Gator Weiss
July 9, 2010, 10:01 PM
For a rifle, you gotta love a Mauser. Especially the old 98K. Excellent rifles.

For the C&R handgun, the old broom handle Mauser pistol in 9mm, followed by the Luger and finishing up with the good old Walther P38 pistol.

Best American C&R from WW2 has to be the Garand rifle. And of course, who can beat the American 1911 pistol?

TX Hunter
July 9, 2010, 10:11 PM
Thats a great favorite, I wish I had gotten a 98K instead of the Yugo.
Dont get me wrong I really like the Yugo, but found out later the 98K has better sights.
Thats a great favorite.

Gaucho Gringo
July 9, 2010, 11:15 PM
Winchester Model 1906 1\2 Nickle Expert. The one I have has been in the family for 78 years. The barrel has been replaced once and the rifling in it is gone now but it still hits what you aim it at. I am 59 and have had it since I was 12. When I was growing up nobody thought twice about a 12 year old with a gun, of course my dad drilled in to me about gun safety and etiquette. Never occurred to me to get out of line with my gun. A different and definitely better time.

July 10, 2010, 12:13 AM
Wow this is a tough one.My favorite has got to be the k98 just because of the accuracy,history,and reputation.

My runners up would be these:

Arisaka Type 99

1886 Portuguese Kropatschek

1895 French Berthier

July 10, 2010, 12:17 AM
That is a difficult choice. I shoot my Polish, Romanian, and now Yugo Tokarevs a lot, along with my CZ52. I sometimes carry my CZ 82 or E. German Mak in the truck. I like the classy looks of my Manurhin Walther PP. I also enjoy my Mausers, Mosin Nagants, SMLEs, K31, and Yugo and Albanian SKSs, but after receiving a P-64 from SOG today, that might be the top of the list!

July 11, 2010, 09:59 PM
#1 Bren Ten
#2 M1 Garand



July 11, 2010, 10:21 PM
Norwegian K98k in .30-06.


July 11, 2010, 11:30 PM
Favorite? FN-49 probably.

Favorite I actually own? M44!

SP Shop Foreman
July 12, 2010, 07:27 AM
This one. A zfk55


Flipper 56
July 12, 2010, 08:43 AM
TX Hunter
MY favorite is my Finnish M28/30 because it is the most accurate of the Mosin-Nagants :D
However, I do have a soft spot for this Spanish Model 1916 I acquired. It forced me to get into reloading and I haven't looked back.

July 12, 2010, 08:23 PM
gotta love the smoothness of the bolt on an enfield!!:D

Big Shrek
July 12, 2010, 09:59 PM
1913 Marlin Model 37 Slide-action :)

July 12, 2010, 11:39 PM
Mosin M44. The first rifle I ever got. Lost count long ago how many rounds I've put through and it still functions perfectly.

Ignition Override
July 12, 2010, 11:43 PM
Don't have the training to use the Yugo Mauser's sights, but nice rifle and no clunky, sticky bolt.

For some reason, the Enfield "Jungle Carbines" are my favorite for now. Will have a first Garand in about a month.

Although the "JC"s are bolt-actions, they are WW2 battle rifles with wood, fairly light, very handy with a unique style, and have much more power than M-1 Carbines.
Could an M-1 Carbine stop a charging adult grizzly with four rounds? The Enfield #5 has done it, and the Serbian Prvi ammo can be reloaded at least four times.

July 13, 2010, 08:12 AM
Tough question. Probably my M39 Sky as it has a very smooth 2 stage trigger and is more accurate than I am.
The rifle also looks like it has been in heavy action through WW2.

July 13, 2010, 11:03 AM
My favorite C&R is usually the last one I bought, which currently makes it my LE 1943 No4 Mk1.

July 13, 2010, 04:45 PM
In the handgun department it sure is my Smith Wesson Mod 3 Russian made by Ludwig Loewe. My wife had to move over a bit to make room for it in the bed.

Rifle.. Springfield trapdoor. Fun all the way.... And you have to use BP to reach the top fun factor!!

TX Hunter
July 13, 2010, 08:37 PM
What is a M-39 Sky?
Is it like the Sako M-39?

July 18, 2010, 02:19 AM
I'll admit I'm a sucker for the M-1 Carbine. I don't hunt anymore, so I don't need a more powerful rifle. That doesn't mean I don't own more powerful rifles, I just don't really need them. But the M-1 Carbine holds a place in my heart, I guess maybe because Inland who made the most of them was based right here where I live. I'm trying to bring as many of these old vets back home to enjoy their retirement as I can.

TX Hunter
July 18, 2010, 08:26 AM
MR Stickhauler,

I do like the M1 Carbine, I have had the priveledge of firing a couple of them that belong to a friend of mine.
They just have a rugged adventurous look about them.
That is a very nice favorite.

Old Grump
July 18, 2010, 10:54 AM
Stevens Model 44 25-20 Single Shot Falling Block Rifle made in 1890. Was shooting it 2 weeks ago with one of my sisters, nephew, nieces husband, and 2 of my brothers. All hit their mark except my sister who can't hit anything beyond 10' without optics on it. Still shoots a nice tight group at 30 yards but ye gods, the price of that ammo. $2.49 every time somebody pulls the trigger :eek: and I'm the one footing the bill.

July 23, 2010, 12:31 AM
The M1 garand or the carbine. Then again, I love the 1903a3...

Glenn Bartley
July 25, 2010, 06:10 AM
Choosing only among C&R guns that I personally own, I choose my Ortgies pistol in .32 Auto.;)

Best regards,

July 25, 2010, 01:05 PM
Definitely my Long Branch No.4 Mk.1 or my No.5 Mk.1 Jungle Carbine. Both made in 1945. Both are extremely accurate too.

July 27, 2010, 04:22 PM
To TX Hunter: With regards to Finnish Mosin-Nagants, some were issued to Civil Guard units. An abbreviation for the Civil Guard is SkY. So his M39 was issued to the Civil Guard (making it somewhat rare) and is boldly marked on the barrel shank as such. Some will also have a civil guard crest stamped on the stock as well.

Determining my most favoritist C&R gun is tough so I'll just pick one because it is so purty.

FN M1900 with factory nickel finish. While so many pistols have after-market nickel finishes, this one is fairly easily identifiable as original due to FN's insistence on not adding nickel plate to moving parts like the safety and trigger.

July 27, 2010, 06:06 PM
Well I only have 2 now to choose from so I guess it would be the 1945 Springfield Garand but the 1943 Walther P-38 is pretty close.

TX Hunter
July 28, 2010, 07:05 PM
Mr Darwins

Thanks so much for the information on the M-39 SKY I will have to look at the markings on mine.
My M-39 Sako Rifle looks like it has been through alot of action, but looks can be decieving.
My Son however has a 91 30 thats tripple dated, and MO Marked.
I looked at your picture, and I can understand why you like it.
Its a great looking pistol. Thanks for replying to my thread.:)

July 29, 2010, 11:41 AM
Well it depends on the day of the week. Today it's a #1 MkIII because it shoots, Monday it would be the 6.5 41b Swede.


July 29, 2010, 03:59 PM

August 7, 2010, 07:05 PM
My Finn Mosin Nagant M39, followed closely by my German K98.

Ignition Override
August 8, 2010, 02:40 AM
The 'new' Garand. Got the phone message today from a friend, who returned from his match at Camp Perry. A few pictures are on the 'Garand' forum at "Gunandgame", because my son knows how to post photos.

The Lee-Enfield "Jungle Carbines" are still tied for #1 on my list, due to their aperture sights, light weight/handiness, and power.

Glenn Bartley
August 8, 2010, 10:37 AM
I forgot to post a pic of my Ortgies in my first reply, but here it is: http://thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62057&stc=1&d=1281282005

TX Hunter
August 11, 2010, 07:58 PM
MR Bartley,

Thats an interesting looking pistol you have there,please tell me about it Whats it chambered for? Was it a Military, or Police weapon?
It looks like it would be a good concealed carry gun.

August 11, 2010, 08:04 PM
Colt Police Positive, just because it's the last one I bought (that may change tomorrow.) It's also my first Colt.

Toney D
August 11, 2010, 08:48 PM
My CZ82 It can hit a golf ball out as far as i can see them. Kind of like them mausers to.

August 12, 2010, 03:16 PM
I also like this matching set from '41 a lot


August 12, 2010, 03:47 PM
No pic, sorry.
Martini-Henry 577-450 Long Lever.

August 12, 2010, 07:05 PM
Which ever one I am taking shooting on a particular day is my favorite. The last couple of trips it has been a S&W 1905 M&P 4th change that dates from about 1930.

August 12, 2010, 07:52 PM
my 1903 Springfield made by remington in 3-44 is my favorite, but i really like my hungarian M-44 and 91/59 alot too. the 03 is the fav though.

August 19, 2010, 05:58 PM
P08...for sure! A very very close second is the M1 Garand.

August 19, 2010, 08:01 PM
Inglis Hi-Powers
1899 Krag Carbine
I may change my mind tomorrow.

August 25, 2010, 08:44 PM
It's a tough choice, I must say. My Norwegian Krag is so dang cool! My Swiss ZFK55 is straight pull, rare, and has that chunky muzzle device. But no, I'm afraid I must go with my Swedish M41b.

I went down to Samco's warehouse and hand selected it myself. The scope & rifle match, and the scope itself is pristine. The wood on the rifle has an incredible tiger stripe on it, and the rifle itself is immaculate.

It shoots like a dream, and while not as dead nuts accurate as a modern sniper, I can certainly hit what I'm aiming at with it. And it's just plain fun to shoot.

TX Hunter
August 29, 2010, 12:18 PM
Man that must have been Cool going to that warehouse, and picking one out.
I could spend all day in a place like that.

August 29, 2010, 01:42 PM
Swiss G1911.

August 29, 2010, 03:58 PM
I've got to say my favorite is my Hungarian Mosin Nagant M-44. That may change when I get the Arisaka type 38, but for now, my M-44.

August 31, 2010, 02:26 PM
Swiss K-31 The Quality, The Quality

TX Hunter
August 31, 2010, 06:10 PM
The Swiss K 31 is starting to grow on me, I am very tempted to get one.

August 31, 2010, 06:58 PM
my german luger with matching mags and holster

September 2, 2010, 10:48 PM
come on over and shoot mine Txhunter, I love mine and haven't even shot it enough to get it sighted in yet

if you can ever catch me at home that is.

September 2, 2010, 11:58 PM
Swiss K31. I own 3 of them and just love the quality of the workmanship. I don't think anything even comes close.
.. but I don't have enough experience with firing other C&R rifles.
I do own a Mauser and a MAS, but their workmanship and materials are not even remotely in the same league as the Swiss.

TX Hunter
September 3, 2010, 07:12 AM
Thanks for the invite, Unforturnately Ive gotta work this weekend, we will have to find a time we are both not working, and fire a few old guns.

September 5, 2010, 08:56 AM
Any of my 6.5's are very cool for lots of reasones the first is accuracy.


September 5, 2010, 09:07 AM
@MJ1= Beautiful rifles. I love the Swede 6.5s. I had to pass on a 96 Sniper about a year ago. Just didn't have the $1000 to spend at the time:(

My M1896 Swedish Mauser is my fav vintage gun. Just edging my M1 Garand

September 5, 2010, 05:44 PM
http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll354/plumbernater/mailgooglecom.jpg This is my VZ24 mauzer 8mm along with cartridge pouch with cartridges with 42 on base of bullets and still in strippers.The scope is a OIGEE Berlin mounted onto the rifle with a quick connect out fit machined to the receiver. Stock sporterized. My dad gave this to me and it was brought back from WW2 by my uncle who was with patton. It was taken from a sniper after said sniper was killed. At least this is what I was told long ago.

TX Hunter
September 5, 2010, 07:29 PM
Thats a neat rifle, and special because your uncle was involved with its history. A great rifle brought home by a brave American.
I love it.

September 5, 2010, 07:40 PM
My old 7 X 57 1916 Spanish Mauser is a sweet shooter. I've had her for hunting deer since I was 17 years old. I think I paid something like $16 for it out of the Wards catalog. :)

September 7, 2010, 09:29 PM
Here is my favorite, in fact only, that would qualify as C & R. But I think it is a pretty good one. It is a Model 1873 Winchester and was made in 1891. I hope my dad didn't put too much money into it, he paid $5 for it. But that was in 1930 and nearly a weeks pay for him then.




September 8, 2010, 09:40 AM
1) 1873 Winchester rifle 38/40 made in 1886
2) 1897 Winchester 12GA made around 1912
3) Rifle Cal .30 M1 made by Winchester
4) Enfield No 4 Made in Canada 1950

TX Hunter
September 10, 2010, 06:05 PM
Man the stock on your rifle is awesome,I love the tiger stripe pattern.
I got kind of cheated out of a simiar rifle, my Grandparents had, it was promised to me, but my Cousin ended up with it after a family dispute.
The one I had promised to me was like yours chambered in 32 20.:(

September 10, 2010, 10:50 PM
I notice I didn't post the caliber of mine. It is .38-40.

September 11, 2010, 10:22 AM
Wow - How'd I miss this thread? One of my favorite subjects!

My sentimental favorite - Grandfather's Inland M1-30 Carbine:

Best looking sporter - 7.7x58 Arisaka with an old restored fajen stock added:
I did the stock work and bedding. It also shoots!!!

Favorite carry around hunting rifle - Restored Swiss K31:
The above pic was entered but scratched from the 2010 August PICs due to being over sized. So I entered this reduced PIC for the 2010 Sept contest:

September 11, 2010, 10:24 AM
I'm not through:

My sporterized Vz-24 - Rebarreled to 9.3x62 for african plains game:
I did the stock restore and bedding on that one, too.

My favorite truck rifle - Sporterized Enfield:
Talk about making lemon aid from a lemon! Got that one "free" cause Bubba had made such a mess of it! Shot 6" high and 8" right at 25yds - Barrel and stock were hacked, Crown was a mess, Front sight was drilled was offset. Now, got the peep sight dead on at 50 yds, the lob sight on at 100 yds and have several 3 shot groups under an inch at 100.

My latest work-in-progress - A Yugo M48a for my son:

September 11, 2010, 11:31 AM
dcm M1

M28 sig (1928)


September 12, 2010, 08:46 AM
Win73 - fantastic wood grain pattern on that rifle of yours. Wow...that is one of the best I've seen outside of crazy high end hunting rifles. Thanks for sharing it with us.

Ignition Override
September 20, 2010, 11:11 PM
txpete: Beautiful Garand and Finn MN.

As for our Garands, what AR can begin to compare, whether in terms of character or firepower?

This might upset some very thin-skinned types over at "THR".

September 20, 2010, 11:27 PM
Pick an Enfield, any Enfield ...


October 2, 2010, 09:07 PM
Toss up. Both carbines. One in 7.62 Nato. One in .303 British.

October 10, 2010, 11:55 AM
I love all of my C&Rs so it's hard to pick a favorite. If I had to choose, however, I think I would go with my little Korean rebuild M-1 Carbine. I don't think anyone was ever issued this rifle after it left the arsenal as the wood and metal condition and the bore are just about perfect. Back when my eyes worked better I could shoot it into just about 2 inches at 100 yards. All in all I think the Warbaby is one of the sexiest little guns ever made. But dang, I would have trouble giving up my CMP Danish Garand, my mint condition M-59/66, my M-1903-A3 that was the first centerfire rifle I ever owned, or any of the rest of my collection. This is almost like asking which one of my kids is my favorite.

October 11, 2010, 04:28 PM
My old friend the Ballester-Molina. Just because.

Ignition Override
October 11, 2010, 11:15 PM
Mr. Tikirocker:
You want it, you got it mate. My LE #4 and my #5s.

A few days ago about five of us stood on some slightly rolling land in Hernando, MS (about six miles east of WalMart).
A buddy has a few Enfields as an investment, but never shoots them, some still in cosmoline.
I let him use about twelve rds. of new Prvi in the #4, which is in pretty good condition, but far from mint. Gary used the rest, aimed at a metal gong at 300 yards, hit it three times!:)
These Bushnell binoculars are pretty good.

October 18, 2010, 09:32 PM

I'd have to say the Luger PO8.
This one's an S/42 Mauser from the Third Reich stamped 1937.

TX Hunter
October 23, 2010, 09:33 AM
Your first picture you posted is very interesting, its of a Mauser Carbine, but it has a flash hider, and what looks like a gas tube.
Its a strange looking firearm.(But I like it):D

October 23, 2010, 10:02 AM
I like this one, but...


(hmm, only one I have a photo of, I guess)

... that is like asking which of your kids you love the best. I also like my M1 Garand, 98k, No. III - Mk1, M-N 91/30 and several others.

The Doc is out now. :cool:

October 23, 2010, 10:23 PM
TX Hunter,
Spanish FR8. When the Spanish were converting from Mausers to CETME's; they had a shortage of training rifles. They converted their Modelo 1943 Mausers (based on the K98) to a carbine by: cutting down the stock, adding a CETME barrel (7.62 Nato) and CETME style sights.


October 24, 2010, 10:53 AM
First is my early original tractor garand -IHC
Second is probably Rockola M1 carbine
Close behind would be my S&W '43 Navy Victory