View Full Version : Best Caliber For Threat

June 21, 2010, 07:17 PM
So I'm trying to find a good ccw caliber. I'm thinking either 10mm or .45 ACP because I want to be able to stop someone on drugs but I'm not entirely sure. I've always heard the following though:

-A .22 and 9mm will stop an undetermined enemy but not a kinda determined enemy.
-A .32 and .380 will stop a kinda determined enemy but not a determined enemy.
-A .38 and .40 will stop a determined enemy but not a really determined one.
-A .41 magnum and .357 will stop a really determined enemy but not one on drugs.
-A .45 and 10mm will stop an enemy on drugs.

Is this an accurate assessment? I got in an argument with Earl about it. He was saying that was poppycock what do you guys think?

June 21, 2010, 07:29 PM
Too many variables. Learn to shoot one well and make sure it's a reliable gun.

June 21, 2010, 07:33 PM
Sounds like absolute BS. Why would .380 be a better stopper than 9mm?

You just need to worry about shot placement and adequate penetration to vital organs.

June 21, 2010, 07:38 PM
Rather than using a "stop a determined enemy" scale, let's use a "fly backward when hit" scale. ;)

Doc TH
June 21, 2010, 07:41 PM
I agree with Earl, although not necessarily with his choice of words.
Shot placement is THE most critical factor. The myth that a .45, or a 10 mm, or a .44 has incredible "knockdown" power is common but unproven. The NYPD published an exhaustive survey of police-perp shootings and found that shot placement was the only variable related to stopping the shootings.

Glenn E. Meyer
June 21, 2010, 07:46 PM
Earl is correct, if there is an Earl, and he is not used as a literary conceit.

We have done caliber wars into the dirt, so we don't need to redo a counter-poppy cock thread.