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May 17, 2010, 11:41 PM
OK guys, here is my latest creation. I took a 1860 Army 44 Sheriffs barrel and
put it on my 1851 Navy Sheriffs model. I can change either way now. What
do you all think looks the best, Army or Navy? I know I just got too much
time on my hands.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o127/prizzel/ArmyvsNavy.jpg

sebou
May 18, 2010, 12:34 AM
hello
that nice, but is it firing with an other caliber yet ? (or maybe the 1851 is on .44 caliber ?)
I guess that not secure to use.
However, who is the brand manufacturer ? I ask you, because i see the frame's screws near to both.
Seb

DustyBottoms
May 18, 2010, 12:36 AM
I've been pondering whether or not this would actually work, myself.
Putting a '60 barrel on a '51 .44 frame.
I admit, it looks good in Photoshop ;)

...But is it plausible?

CajunPowder
May 18, 2010, 01:23 AM
I think the top one looks like something Batman should be carrying in a pre-WWII edition.

RemTim
May 18, 2010, 12:50 PM
IMHO, the bottom version, abso-friggin-lutely!!!

Hawg
May 18, 2010, 12:56 PM
Frames are the same for .44's but the 36's don't have the step required for the larger .44 cylinders.

clang
May 19, 2010, 10:56 AM
Go Army, beat Navy!

Dino.
May 19, 2010, 11:39 AM
+1 for the Army version.

Hardcase
May 19, 2010, 01:06 PM
Go Army, beat Navy!

http://www.fluidlight.com/images/bill_goat.jpg

suzukibruce
May 19, 2010, 03:09 PM
GO ARMY! BEAT NAVY! oh sorry i thought this was a football thread....

surbat6
May 20, 2010, 01:00 PM
Actually, the Army version is a bit closer to an original type (with shortened barrel assembly and grips) of the 19th century. AFAIK, there was never a Navy version with the rebated cylinder from any period manufacturer.
That said, the Army version is really neat!
I'd like to know which one YOU like best, KWHI.

May 20, 2010, 01:38 PM
Well. I really like the Army best. But I just can't see paying 125 for the barrel,
Then paying another 50 or so for the loading lever. So, I guess I will be content with just looking at the picture I made.

idaram
May 20, 2010, 02:03 PM
The first 100 of the 1860 Army model were on navy grips. There is a picture of one in the old Colt firearms history book. (the name of the book escapes me at the moment)

Best.....Andy

w_houle
May 20, 2010, 02:05 PM
The top one. Pietta never made an 1860 Civilian (Uberti did), but you can hide the last bit of 1851ness by using a gated conversion cylinder. Ive been kinda wanting to do it for a while, but never got off my lazy...
Oh, and Pietta uses longer cylinders.

May 20, 2010, 02:21 PM
I'm sure you know the cylinder in the gun is a 45 Colt 5 shot Howell. The gun
is a Pietta

DustyBottoms
May 20, 2010, 03:07 PM
Well. I really like the Army best. But I just can't see paying 125 for the barrel,
Then paying another 50 or so for the loading lever. So, I guess I will be content with just looking at the picture I made.

You could just buy that Sheriff Cabela's has on sale...

May 20, 2010, 03:42 PM
Yea but. Wife says I got enough now. You think I should ask her if she
ever had enough chocolate????

Hardcase
May 20, 2010, 04:22 PM
Yea but. Wife says I got enough now. You think I should ask her if she ever had enough chocolate????

I would say "fair is fair", but that can turn around and bite you so darn fast...

w_houle
May 21, 2010, 05:09 AM
The gun is a Pietta
Mine likes .45 Colt to be no longer than 1.58"

May 21, 2010, 09:50 AM
Mine too. I found out my Goex Black Dawge 45 Colt ammo will fit OK. So will
the Black Hills Cowboy ammo.

w_houle
May 21, 2010, 11:23 AM
Almost forgot to mention that it's my understanding that you can fit an SAA grip frame onto the 1851/60.
Can you do a Richards conversion with a Kirst?

madcratebuilder
May 21, 2010, 11:50 AM
Army Vs Navy

That's more of a caliber thing than a style. You are comparing pivoting loading lever to a creeping loading lever. Both revolvers are Army caliber, .44.:rolleyes:

May 21, 2010, 11:52 AM
Yes, to the Krist, but with the ring the cylinder is shorter and will not accept
45 Colt. You have to use 45 Scholdfield ammo.

w_houle
May 21, 2010, 01:58 PM
Yes, to the Kirst,
Richards or Richards-Mason?

arcticap
May 23, 2010, 12:06 AM
Considering that the Pietta Navy's front sight is known for causing a very high point of impact due to being too low, I wonder how much closer to the point of aim the Army barrel will shoot to?
The Army sight does look to be a little bit higher.
Does anyone know how high the Pietta Colt Army's generally impact at 25 yards?

olyinaz
May 23, 2010, 04:19 AM
Mine was something like 10" high at 25 yards.

Oly

Rifleman1776
May 23, 2010, 03:54 PM
Whatever floats yer stick is best.
Just don't try to convince a die hard reenactor your frankinsteins are authentic.

Hawg
May 23, 2010, 04:06 PM
Does anyone know how high the Pietta Colt Army's generally impact at 25 yards?

Mine was 6 inches. The newer 58's have taller sights and are closer to dead on but the Colt sights haven't changed.

Higene
May 27, 2010, 01:22 AM
Does anyone make conversion cylinders for an ASM 1860 Sherrif's model?

w_houle
May 27, 2010, 07:48 PM
Does anyone make conversion cylinders for an ASM 1860
I want to say that you would want to use an Uberti cc for it, but don't have an Uberti cylinder, and my Pietta cylinder is a bit too long.