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May 17, 2010, 06:19 AM
check it out...


May 17, 2010, 11:53 AM
That piece looks great. It is a really intriguing model and not very common at all.
If you need ammo, Pyramid Air always sells the 4th tin of ammo for free if you buy 3 tins.
And .22 pellets may be fun to shoot out of it too whether the barrel is rifled or not.
Any idea if the barrel is rifled?
I think that 777 would be a good powder to try shooting it with because it burns relatively cleaner and is 15% more potent than the others.
Good luck and have fun with it! :)



May 18, 2010, 01:58 AM
does anyone have one of these or has any info on them? i cant seam to find anything anywhere other than everytime i search the description i get the ad...lol...

May 18, 2010, 02:21 PM
SB, it is amazing how we have the same taste in guns, I was eying that piece on the auction block and you bought it also, As great minds think alike, demented ones do also. I decided to analyze myself and what I know of you in able to determine which category you and I belong.
Only a demented soul would subject all of us to this,
Do they make these for an 1858 Remmy? (http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=409906)
and dupe me into a serious response as found hereSince you are going to cut your barrel, mounting the front sight on the side would be an option, but the cylinder would be in the way of a true alignment with a rear sight notched into the frame and a fixed sight would be too high unless you have a raised front sight. I don't really see how you could do it..
then you reveal it was a twisted plot;
i thought you guys might get a kick out of that...

"Hey dummy, the sites are on top for a reason!"
I know I was the dummy you refered to... you twisted rascal.:o I owe you one there. I can let by gones be by gones, my new friend. You have shared enough of your self here to have my friendship. I mean you really, dug deep and revealed some of your most intimate thoughts as quoted here
The problem is i live in a carry state no one carries in, we get alot of "outta staters" and they get squeamish when they see a gun, my girlfriend carries a m&p .40 and i carry a .32 iver johnson and i get less funny looks than she does. but i can't be walking around with some girlie mouse gun and my girlfriend has a .40 caliber hand cannon... she always teases me "if i have to, i'll put down what that (pointing at my little gun) wont" so i have been looking at saa style colts but for the "size of hole vrs. cash spent" the remmy is the ticket... and black powder will be the last thing they ever ban... but i do love my antique I.J.'s
on this thread:
New to the Froum (http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=409606&page=2)
This one ought to put the fear of God in them. :eek:Be careful not wave this one around or display any intimidating behaviour :mad:while totin this cannon as the penalties can be severe for enticing public panic.:eek:
Cheers my friend,:D that is a nice piece and I would love to have two or three like it You never know; it may save your life one day.

May 18, 2010, 02:40 PM
oh no my favorite thing to do when i get a new gun is to run outside showing it off to everyone. the best way to do this is run up and down the street screaming at the top of my lungs "I GOT A GUN!!!! I GOT A GUN!!!!" and wave it around...

May 18, 2010, 02:43 PM
and like they say tim "great minds think alike"...

May 18, 2010, 02:44 PM
I've always liked the Derringers. They are priced right too...

May 18, 2010, 03:01 PM
you know that derringer wil prolly go up for sale in a month or so... i'll give you first option on it... i have a line on another remmy, a cimmaron, locally i'm working a deal on as we speak. its in no where near as good condition as the lyman so it might be the shorty i was thinking or maybe for resale i just havent made up my mind yet... thats is if i get it of course...

i'll tell you what i am looking for is one of those cobray .44 sxs derringers in b.p....

May 18, 2010, 03:25 PM
You didn't mention the price of the Cimmeron. If this one is priced higher than the range you paid for the Lyman and if the Cimmeron is the lesser in quality, why not bid your time and hunt for another Lyman?
After buying my first one, I knew what I wanted my next one to be. I avoided the instant gratification urge and waited until I found another one. There was a lot of eye candy to fed the fever, but I do not regret waiting for the quality I desired.
Have you handled the Cimmeron yourself or is the quality difference an assumption?
I am asking because I would like to know, not because I am trying to assume an opposite viewpoint. I have never seen one other than a picture.

May 18, 2010, 03:33 PM
well the cimaron is beat to hell, it'll need new grips and rebluing bad, it is soooo dirty and grimy i couldnt tell if its is smoother or not... right now it sure isn't but i won't know until it's all cleaned up... i'm working a "i'll trade you this for that" kinda thing... he wants 150 for it but its really not worth it to me so i'm trying to trade him a mossberg barrel i have for it... i'm also selling the barrel on auction arms but we'll see....

May 18, 2010, 04:27 PM
You could use it for parts or as s throw around gun if you can swap for it. Otherwise you may want to hold out for another Lyman. I'd also watch gunboker; that's where I got mine.
Grips and reblueing aren't a big thing, the Lyman and the Cimmeron would be close to being if not eqal in quality. I think they are pretty much the same gun.
Check these out:

May 18, 2010, 04:55 PM
There are several ways to finish one. This one was sanded and soaked in Evaporust. (http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=408169) (Compliments of Articap) (http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=408169)



May 18, 2010, 05:31 PM
yeah i just deleted my gb acct over their new "you have to give us a credit card to use our service" crap. i have had a debit card with them for years and now suddenly that isnt good enough, and i just got the iver a month or so ago for gb... what ever i definatly get better deals on auction arms...lol...

May 18, 2010, 05:49 PM
If your mailbox is on your domain, there is no credit card requirement. The purpose of it is for age verification. I guess they figure if you own your own domain, you are legit and of legal age. I don't think there is much risk of using a public domain based mailbox secured with a credit or debit card.

May 18, 2010, 05:57 PM
you know that derringer wil prolly go up for sale in a month or so... i'll give you first option on it...
Maybe my my financial timing will be in sync with yours.I had eyed it and admired it while I was Lyman searching and drooling over the Remmies. I don't have to tell you what I revere the highest on the bang for buck scale..

May 18, 2010, 07:28 PM
The plain steel of that Remmy looks really nice RemTim, sort of like the London Gray.

yeah i just deleted my gb acct over their new "you have to give us a credit card to use our service" crap. i have had a debit card with them for years and now suddenly that isnt good enough, and i just got the iver a month or so ago for gb... what ever i definatly get better deals on auction arms...lol...

A debit card with a Mastercard or Visa logo on it counts as a credit card. The merchant doesn't know the difference. Gunbroker simply charges $1 to test the card to see that it's good and issues a future credit. So using a debit card to open a Gunbroker account is totally acceptable. Now go & reopen your account!

May 18, 2010, 08:17 PM
Thanks, Articap, Thank you for turning us on to Evaporust (http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=408169). That stuff it totally amazing. This finish is more line of what I wanted. Here it is in different lighting.

May 18, 2010, 08:30 PM
SB, I've found decent deals at GunBroker. Here are my two babies on the auction block.
1971 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=158309608)
1972 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=161319072)

May 19, 2010, 02:22 AM
no the debit card deosnt count i went back and forth with gb for 2 weeks over it and finally told them "hell with it, close the acct," i have had that acct since 1997 and when my new debit card came i got this message saying i needed a credit card on file because i use hotmail as my e-mail, i always used the same e-mail from the beginning and it was never a problem before and like i said i just bought the pearl gripped iver johnson a week before all this went on. i have made over 100 purchases and 50+ sales, it only started when i had to register my new debit card because the old one expired...

and further more i tried to register it 6 times before i sent a letter to support and when they told me i needed a credit card that a debit isn't good anough i told them to refund the 6 dollars in "registration fees" and they told me they couldnt... so i called the bank and got the money back in the acct that way... trust me g.b. is going the way of feebay... try it, go open a new acct, use hotmail to set it up and try to register it with a debit card... you'll see what i mean then try to get the dollar back....

May 19, 2010, 08:25 AM
I'm sorry to hear that they've changed their policy.
Then the problem may be because you're only using a Hotmail account instead of giving them your main internet provider email account that is associated with a billing address.
I registered with Gunbroker using my main internet provider email account, and they also allow me to use a secondary "public" email address for privacy reasons that is different.
So maybe if you register using your "home" email account from your internet provider then using a debit card wouldn't be an issue.

May 19, 2010, 09:20 AM
i have been registered as a user with gb for 13 years with the same e-mail acct, THEY changed THEIR policy and I'M the problem? the problem is not with me, the problem is these companies that do what they want when they want and expect us to fall in lock step for them. here is the deal i don't NEED their service, they NEED my money to stay in business... there are plenty of other auction sites out there and i have found one where so far i have made 2 purchases and have been very happy and my money spends there just fine... and gb is less one paying customer...

May 19, 2010, 12:16 PM
That's a bummer SB, when did this policy change occur?
I have never had to put up a card. When I tried to use my Yahoo email they asked for a card. I used an email on an inactive .com which I own, my account was opened. I was wondering if my account status had changed so I tested my account by placing a bid on an item where the reserve is not met. The seller has low feedback however. Any way here it is for the GB guys. 1960 Navy Arms Remmy. (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=169487545). It got me to lusting..

May 19, 2010, 02:54 PM
all i can figure is they changed it in the last 4 years (me old card was good then my new one wasn't...lol...)

nice piece i like it! and look that one doesn't say "black powder only" on the barrel either...

btw i'm looking for a set of grips, any grips for a remmy...

oh and the guy with the cimmaron aint biting.... he thinks he is sitting on a gold mine with that thing...lol... he told me he wants to get 200+ for it so he's gonna post it on auction arms...lol... wait till you see this thing... unbelievable...

May 19, 2010, 03:10 PM
Did you check these? I posted them for you the other day.
I thought about ordering two sets of the jigged bone grips. I love the looks of em. They don't break or chip.:D

May 19, 2010, 03:16 PM
GB, Looks like your email setting is set to receive member emails. I am constantly on the web looking for old Ubertis, even when I am not actively buying. If you would like, I will share what I find with you off the forum. If you wish, I will exclude GB listings.
Or I can just share it openly on the forum.

May 19, 2010, 03:32 PM
i'm looking for something like these...


but it seams most grip companies forgot the 1858 exists, it all saa this and saa that and saa, saa, saa.. geez people there is more to the world than colts... oh did i mention they make nice grips for the saa?

May 19, 2010, 03:43 PM
Yeah I like those better too. If you find them for the Remmy please share.

May 19, 2010, 03:48 PM
geez people there is more to the world than colts...
Heh, heh, heh. You said it I didn't.:D Remmy stuff can be hard to find. Gotta admit, them Colts are nice too.

May 19, 2010, 04:25 PM
wow i found something other than colts.. rugers!.... they make custom grips for cz, ppk's, iver johnsons, but no remmys...

May 19, 2010, 06:00 PM
Good luck, SB. I have looked everywhere for a variety in Remmy grips. You saw what I came up with. They had nicer patterns....for Colts.:rolleyes:
Unless I find something better I'll get the jigged bone. I'll hold out a while longer in hopes of more choices.

May 19, 2010, 06:04 PM
SB, so why not start a thread on Remmy grips?

May 19, 2010, 06:31 PM
i'm thinking of just making my own... better sharpen the knife and get a whitlin'

May 19, 2010, 06:58 PM
Making my own isn't really an option for me. Never tried whittling, doubt I have what it takes. I would order a replacement from vti first. Are the grips on your Lyman damaged or you don't like them? They look good to me.
I wish the grips were the same on both of mine. One set is almost like yours and one is a lighter color.

May 19, 2010, 10:47 PM
Tombstone grips come in a bunch of colors but they require final fitting.
Be sure to read all of the info.




Opinion on Tombstone grips


May 20, 2010, 12:41 AM
tim the grips are perfect, i just want something differant, i got this thing about personalizing everything i own (i'm sure you have seen the pics of my truck and bronco) i am actually thinking a very dark if not black stain but dont want to do it to the originals...

May 20, 2010, 10:39 AM
You could always get a Colt, then those purdy black pearl grips you showed me would fit.:rolleyes:

May 20, 2010, 03:16 PM
i drive a 1980 bronco, ride an 82 suzuki gs and a 78 nautiline houseboat, and also have a 2004 silverado, a 98 sea ray and a 02 vulcan.
i got this thing about personalizing everything i own (i'm sure you have seen the pics of my truck and bronco)

SB, :rolleyes:You definitely have more toys than I,:o Nicer toys at that.:(But I do find some comfort in the following revision of an old saying; He who dies with the most toys....still dies.:p:p:p

May 20, 2010, 07:20 PM
tim check these out...



its not just black powder and antiques we're into...

May 20, 2010, 07:26 PM
and tim you have something i cant, kids... i would love to have a kid to play with my toys with me...lol... but i am and only child so sharing might be a problem...

May 20, 2010, 07:36 PM
SB, that boy is my heart; my only child. There's nothing in this world I love more. I removed his pictures from the forum. I noticed no one else had pics of their children posing with guns. The picture was so unique. I wanted to share it. I don't know if it was such a good idea having him on the web; had second thoughts.

May 20, 2010, 09:16 PM
SB, I know how you feel about GB, but here is some eye candy. (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=169179006)

May 20, 2010, 09:26 PM
tim if i ever see something on gb with a buy it now that i want, you're gonna have to send the seller my e-mail addy...lol...

May 20, 2010, 09:55 PM
I'm looking for another Uberti Reemy. Lyman seems to be a sleeper in price. and is my first choice, but a little hard to find.. I really don't care who the Uberti mporter is or where I find it. I am an Uberti freak, I know. The condition is contagious however.