View Full Version : 50 cal kentucky rifle

long rider
December 21, 2009, 05:14 PM
I would be looking for info on a 50 cal kentucky
rifle from traditions made in spain, what i would like
to no if anyone of you guys as one or had one, i
would like to know how eszay it it to take out
the breech plug ? or is it a big deal, i would like
some help on this one guys thanks.:o

December 21, 2009, 06:24 PM
I'm sure that people have removed them but not unless it's really necessary.
The hooked tang can get bent and damaged, and the breech plug may not get screwed back into the same exact location causing the barrel to not line up in the stock properly.
Plus the Traditions lifetime warranty will be void.
So there are right methods and wrong methods to use.
What's the matter with the barrel that leads you to want to remove it? :rolleyes:

December 21, 2009, 06:32 PM
No reason to take the breach plug out!! I wonder why you would want to.

December 21, 2009, 07:19 PM
You are confusing the inline with the Kentucky style.
No need to remove the breech plug from the old-time rifles.

December 21, 2009, 07:22 PM
I have only removed one quite a few years ago and learned a good lesson.
Although it can be done, there's more than one reason not to. You may never get rid of the tool marks from working the plug. I'm sure you are seeing something in there that bothers you but try other ways other than removing this plug.

Be Safe !!!

December 21, 2009, 07:22 PM
I don't have their Kentucky but do own one of their Hawkens in .50 cal O really like it, good shooter and groups better than I can shoot.

long rider
December 21, 2009, 07:47 PM
OK thanks guys, i just got this rifle and i took it apart
to clean it, but did not mess with the plug, so i was just
wondering about it thats all, buts thats me i allways like
to take thing apart just to see how it works, so having
said that i will let it be,so i will take it out for a test run
tomorrow thanks.:D

December 21, 2009, 07:59 PM
I have heard folks say that in-lines are easier to clean than side locks. Not really but in-lines are more accessible. After one of our classes, I have to clean both and the Side-Lock takes less time to clean than the in-line but all surfaces on the in-line that came in contact with powder, are cleaned per visual inspection. Once borrowed a bore scope from work and did not like what I saw in the bottom of one of my SideLocks. Used ones are the worse.:barf:

Be Safe !!!

long rider
December 21, 2009, 08:09 PM
Thats what i was wondering about, how to clean deep
down to the breech plug, with me been used to pistols
and not muzzle loaders, so having said that i can get me
some long cleaning rods and jags and bore cleaner and
go to work when i have smoked some black down that
bore, so some techniqes on how you guys clean your
side locks, not inlines thanks.:D

December 21, 2009, 08:35 PM
They make scrapers shaped for that bottom cup and brushes. I have a SS, brass and nylon bush that will conture to the bottom and clean most of that out. Seated rust is harder to remove but you have to work at it. Stay with it and remember that this area is where most of the dirty work is done. I have a used Orphaned Hawken Model that came back to me and I'm still showing rust from this pocket ... Oh well !!

Be Safe !!!

long rider
December 21, 2009, 08:47 PM
I know that windex is good for cleaning bp, i have
used it on my pistols, i got myself some #13 bore
cleaner, this rife is new so i am the first to shoot
it, so if i keep on top of it it should stay clean at
the breech plug end, right?.:confused:

December 21, 2009, 08:55 PM
how to clean the sidelock.

I have the kentucky but in flintlock, love it! Its my baby.

long rider
December 21, 2009, 09:06 PM
FT cool, one QS why not bore butter in the bore???:confused:

December 21, 2009, 10:33 PM
poor bore protection and over time it will build up causing accuracy issues. I tried it years ago in an Inline and the bore was rusted badly after a week of storage.

Im currently testing it out again but using a different method.

December 21, 2009, 11:59 PM
I just went thru a rusted barrel in my Zouve , I cleaned it good then run a few patches down the barrel coated with Bore Butter, another board had a thread about rusting barrels coated with bore butter, I checked mine and sure enough rust.
I gave it a good cleaning, and used gun oil for storage from now on, and before I shoot a couple of patches to remove the oil and I'll be good to go.
Oh I bought one of those square tip breach plug scrapers that attach to my cleaning rod I find that works well to keep that area clean.

long rider
December 22, 2009, 09:02 PM
Gosh darn it, now i have to clean it allover again now.:mad::D