View Full Version : Can anyone ID this?

November 25, 2009, 09:35 AM
This belongs to my boss, he is wanting to know some info on it.



November 25, 2009, 11:14 AM
I've seen those on Gunbroker, can't recall the name.

November 25, 2009, 11:18 AM
It has a 27 stamped on both barrels and the trigger ass'y. There is another marking but I can't make it out.

Doc Hoy
November 25, 2009, 12:46 PM
That is the name given to a 70s kit of the weapon. At least that is what it looks like to me.

Andy Griffith
November 25, 2009, 02:40 PM
The real ones I've handled are pinfire and usually Spanish made.

It's kinda hard to tell from the pictures, but it may be a reproduction.

November 25, 2009, 05:14 PM
Snake eyes percussion, appears to me to be an original. it's definitely not one of the recent kits.

November 25, 2009, 07:49 PM
Really hard to tell from the pictures, but it appears that there may be pin fire groves under the hammers. Looks to be Spanish made , if pinfire, mid to late 1800's. if cartridge it could even be recent. These are very popular in South America and are still being made there there, usually in .320 caliber. Carried by the poor working folks against the many bandits. Some of the recent ones don't even have rifling ( it is a close range firearm. One version , in 22 LR was sold in the US but they were not popular and I've even forgoten who imported them and from where. Not a high dollar item.

November 25, 2009, 08:24 PM
Perhaps you could post a photo giving a side view? From the one view, it appears to have a triggerguard? I have an original double barrel pinfire similar to this in my collection. I bought it probably 45 years ago. The one I have has "pop out" triggers which drop down as each hammer is cocked. I sent photos of it to Robert Abels in NY years ago and he felt that it was of French or Belgium manufacturer even though there were no markings on the pistol. Since then, I've seen several throughout the years at gun shows - most priced around $100 and nobody was standing in line to buy them. I bought it because it was different but unless you are in to collecting pinfires there probably isn't a big demand. As suggested, yours may be a product of the 1970s. If you can put some more detailed photos up of it, someone should be able to give you a good idea of what it is. Good luck!

November 26, 2009, 01:28 AM
The only ones I know of that were making those in the 70's was Classic Arms and they were brass framed. DGW still sells the Classic Arms kits and they look nothing like this one. It doesn't appear to me to be pinfire. The shape of the hammers is wrong and the barrels don't appear to open up.

November 26, 2009, 10:12 AM
Kind of like looking at a lug nut on a car and trying to ascertain what the car is. How about a photo of the whole pistol, also with hammers cocked, and from the top with hammers cocked.

The Doc is out now. :cool:

November 26, 2009, 08:07 PM
tell your boss he needs better pics

November 26, 2009, 09:57 PM
Kind of like looking at a lug nut on a car and trying to ascertain what the car is.

You can do that to some degree on older cars. Fords have bigger ones than Chevies, Chrysler used the same size as Ford but the ones on the right side were a left hand thread.

James K
November 26, 2009, 10:18 PM
Those marks look a bit like British view marks. Guns like that were made in England in the 19th century, but we definitely need better pictures before making even an educated guess as to the origin and value.