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September 16, 2009, 03:43 PM
pics old double barrel muzzle loader http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3694574#post3694574

September 16, 2009, 04:02 PM
Looks like an antique double barrel percussion shotgun. Many of these were made in Belgium and England in the 1840-50's. What did you want to know about it.

September 16, 2009, 04:06 PM
i was hoping for u to say its unquestionably this or that ive been looking for weeks now and have gotten as close as everyones best guess which matched urs problem im finding : if the stock is factory why cant i find it

James K
September 16, 2009, 06:29 PM
Those elaborately carved stocks were popular in Germany but not in England or the U.S. (or, for that matter, in Belgium). I suspect the gun was made for export to Germany, then somehow made its way to the U.S.

I doubt you will ever be able to determine the maker, or even the date manufactured. Those guns were made by the ton in Liege by "consortiums" or "guilds", groups of gun makers, each of whom specialized in one part (locks, barrels, stocks, etc.). The parts were then assembled by yet another shop. To have put all the maker's names on the guns would have required a billboard, so the guns were not marked with any name at all.


September 16, 2009, 06:42 PM
Recap I have a belgian d-barrel shipped to germany to be put on a crazy carving job of a gun and dates from 1840 to 1870 can i run with that ? http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3694574#post3694574

September 16, 2009, 09:44 PM
You really should call a guy at the British museum in London, the Curator there will be able to point you in the direction of an expert in gunsmith marks. (hopefully)

That will better allow you to get closer to the real date and maker of the gun.

I think it his name was Richard Blurton... I don't know who's running the place now, but they're all very helpful!

Phone 011-44-2073-238-000 or 299 Sometime tomorrow. They are on Zulu time or Greenwich Mean.

Tell them you wish to speak to the curator about seeking leads on the manufacture of an antique musket, and they will get the ball rolling to find out what you got.

September 17, 2009, 05:47 PM
All good stuff,ty .