View Full Version : Baikal 12ga with box magazines?

August 30, 2009, 09:39 PM
I picked this up a couple years back, just because it looks so nasty mean. Baikal IZH 81-KM made in Russia. It shoots great, although it's not too great for clay, it runs buck and slugs real nice. It seems to be pretty rare, it was not in the big book of gun values, or whatever it's called. I have 4 mags for it, does anyone know what this thing is worth??

September 26, 2009, 12:20 PM
Nobody has an idea of the approximate value of this thing?

September 26, 2009, 01:25 PM
Seriously.....the last one that I read about went at auction for $150. It was unfired.


September 26, 2009, 03:41 PM
I've never seen such a thing before- looks quite interesting. But sorry, I have no clue as to its value.

September 26, 2009, 05:21 PM
They're nifty little guns. We had one in the shop when I worked there and I think we sold it for $200, it was NIB with a couple extra mags. It's cool and scarce but ther is 0 demand for a box fed pump. It just makes it too cumbersome. Another reason it doesn't fetch alot of money is because it's a Baikal. Not that there's anything wrong with them it's just that people think 'Russian made junk.' I think the Baikal shotguns in general are really underrated.

September 26, 2009, 06:05 PM
Dang i would LOVE to have one of those!!!!!!!

September 27, 2009, 10:19 AM
Did a little more research and it appears this is a Kalishnakov design:D I was hoping it was worth more, guess I'll hang on to it just for the coolness factor. BTW they did make a different version where you could load the mag AND the tube, and there was a switch to choose where you'd chamber from. These were meant for riot police, so they could have non-lethal rounds and switch to buck/slugs real quick if needed. Now that's cool.:p
Thanks, guys.

Willie Lowman
September 27, 2009, 11:38 AM
That's what we scientists call a solution looking for a problem.

September 27, 2009, 08:55 PM
I winder if that sentiment would be different if it was a blacked-out tactical Mossberg. Dang, I should have used the word tactical when describing it.:D

September 27, 2009, 10:06 PM
it looks like an 870 raped a 500 and somehow got a rifle involved... it would be neat to have...

September 27, 2009, 11:27 PM
It is neat to have. When I bought it, I saw it on the consignment rack and said out loud "A 12ga pump with magazines?" Every head in the shop turned to see what it was. I knew if I put it back on the rack, it would leave with someone else. One thing I like about it is that you can empty the chamber and leave it open then remove a partial mag, and the gun is made safe, no need to work the action to unload it, as a regular tube-fed pump.

October 2, 2009, 07:49 PM
These were meant for riot police, so they could have non-lethal rounds and switch to buck/slugs real quick if needed.

Seems more like a quite effective way to send buckshot/slugs downrange when you're intending to fire beanbag or vice versa. There's a reason many police have special shotguns for the less lethal ammo with very distinctive furniture on them- you DON'T want to get the two mixed up.

Sounds like a good idea at first, but in practice, more likely to get somebody killed when you weren't trying to do that- either the shooter or the target.