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PetahW
July 30, 2009, 07:42 AM
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b38/tango4c/UnusualleverGun.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b38/tango4c/UnusualleverGun2.jpg

[EDIT:] A British friend says it's a Danish Larsen-Winterros - designed by August L. Larsen and C.E. Winterros of Liege, Belgium, 1884, with a tube under-bbl mag in the forend.


http://www.thm-online.dk/perioder/26/44/44-SB3041/


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Jim Watson
July 30, 2009, 07:54 AM
Never saw the like.

But it doesn't have any sights, does appear to have a barrel rib.
Don't you think it might be a lever action shotgun?

PetahW
July 30, 2009, 08:18 AM
You may be right - Europeans are notorious for putting those swivels on their shotguns.

Hmmmmm, a .410 levergun ?

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wjkuleck
July 30, 2009, 08:45 AM
Notice what may be a serial number?

Regards,

Walt
PS Wonder what the proofs look like; might offer a clue.

Hawg
July 30, 2009, 10:56 AM
It does appear to be a shotgun with a loading port in the bottom. It also has an English look to me. It's purdy, whatever it is.:D

PetahW
July 30, 2009, 01:06 PM
A pal from Britain was able to clue me in - Thanks, all !

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tmd11111
July 30, 2009, 01:16 PM
A pal from Britain was able to clue me in - Thanks, all !


Don't suppose you mind sharing that information.

Or is it G14 classified

PetahW
July 30, 2009, 01:19 PM
If you would have taken the trouble to re-read my OP, tmd11111, you would have seen that I edited it to include the particulars, including a hyperlink - Thanks for your inattention. ;)

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tmd11111
July 30, 2009, 01:26 PM
Duh, never considered to look there.
Ok, I admidt it, I'm a dumbass....:rolleyes:

Damn nice rifle btw

goodspeed(TPF)
July 30, 2009, 01:30 PM
That's actually kinda neat lookin. Thanks for sharing. :)

PetahW
July 30, 2009, 01:55 PM
[Ok, I admidt it, I'm a dumbass]

S'ok - I'm not much better, posting it was a rifle, when it was a shotgun. :o
No sights, as Jim so kindly (AND nicely) pointed out.
Doh.

I wish I could read the Danish or Norwegian in the hyperlink - maybe that museum states what chamberings it was made in.

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cohoskip
July 30, 2009, 02:35 PM
That's purdy.

PetahW: "Hmmmmm, a .410 levergun?"

I grew up with a Marlin .410 lever action. With that small barrel it looked like a rifle. I was asked once why I was hunting doves with a rifle...

fal308
August 2, 2009, 09:20 AM
A Bing search brought up two entries
Here's a recent auction sale on one http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/pubweb/publicSite.r?screen=LotDetails&iSaleNo=16758&iSaleItemNo=4198548&iSaleSectionNo=1
If the link breaks here's the grist ofthe info;
Lot No: 235S1

A Larsen-Winterros patent 16-bore underlever gun, no. 2955
Engraved browned receiver, slide retaining some hardening-colour, well-figured stock (repair at toe) with pistolgrip, horn pistolgrip-cap and steel butt-plate, sling-swivels, horn-capped forestock, the circular browned damascus barrel with half-length magazine-tube and matt concave-rib
Weight 7lb. 14½oz., 13¾in. pull, 28¼in. barrel, approx. ¾ choke, recent London nitro reproof

The other search result is the museum. They have some interesting stuff! http://www.thm-online.dk/perioder/26/44/?select:page=alle&type1=&type2=&type3=

firemannw
August 9, 2009, 03:35 PM
Interesting lever gun.

James K
August 9, 2009, 09:47 PM
What appears to be a statement from the national military history museum, dated 9 Feb 1940, says that it is a repeating shotgun with the magazine in the foreend, after the Larsen-Winterros patent. The caliber translates to 16 gauge, 2 9/16 shells.

It says the nationality is Norwegian, but follows that with a question mark, so they were guessing.

Jim

bugnut
August 9, 2009, 10:32 PM
Wow... that's one beauiful and interesting firearm. I'd like to see more pics of the action to get an idea of how it works.

Neruda
August 12, 2009, 01:44 PM
If you search for +larsen +winterros in www.google.com/patents you will find the United States patent for this gun including some very good detailed drawings of the mechanism. This link may work: http://www.google.cl/patents?id=uOJAAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA5&lpg=PA5&dq=%2Blarsen+%2Bwinterros&source=bl&ots=GxRmpzJFMr&sig=DAk_-MP5hONkZOiSn5uOVYujfk0&hl=es&ei=3QiDSv3eHdLEmQeRyoCjDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2#v=onepage&q=%2Blarsen%20%2Bwinterros&f=false

According to the patent, Larsen was from Norway and Winterros from Sweden, but by the 1880s both were resident in Liege, Belgium. They took out patents for the mechanism in Belgium, England and the United States.

So, where was this gun made - what is the evidence for Denmark or Norway?

Trond
January 11, 2011, 09:47 AM
I'm lifting an old thread, but I just love the designs from the Larsen family, they were creative!

This is a shotgun designed by a Norwegian bike manufacturer in Belgium and a Swedish friend - August Lefredius Larsen. August took over running his father's Belgium gun works (Hans Larsen, Larsen & Fils and Larsen rifle Co). As the models they produced (mainly single shot falling block, ultra high quality & precision target rifles) started to be somewhat outdated and too expensive, the facility closed down in 1887 and August started up with bicycles, but designed guns on the side.

I have seen some of his Belgium long-guns, they are as weird as his father's were and really rather intriguing.

http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af328/trondwi/bibdisplay.jpg

The picture shows some of August Larsen's father Hans Larsen's designs.

LordTio3
January 11, 2011, 10:12 AM
Or is it G14 classified?

HA! I love Jackie Chan.

Beautiful work of artgun. Wouldn't mind mounting one on MY wall. What are your plans for it? Case Queen or the auction block? Something better?
Come on. Dish.
~LT

Trond
January 11, 2011, 11:47 AM
I knew I had some pictures of another of August Larsen's designs somewhere. My guess is that this one is from the late 1880's and the Winterros from the 1890's. The Larsen's loved placing a magazine in the butt, but I guess this is a single shot shot-gun.

http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af328/trondwi/AugustLLarsen.jpg

There is a page on Hans Larsen on the Norwegian Small-arms pages.