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May 29, 2009, 06:27 PM
Good Day
I have a U.S. Model Of 1917 Remington Serial #44194. The stock has a cartouche of RIA FK which I think means Rock Island Arsenal Frank Krack 1920-1930.
The barrel has the ordinance flame, X6,V3,V5,V4,F K56 and below the sight E Ordinance flame 10-17.
I also found two bullets in the magazine.
I was wondering if someone can tell me when this weapon was made and what do all the markings mean on the barrel.
Thank you.

moose fat
May 30, 2009, 06:15 AM
The first pic shows that it was made by (E) Eddystone, October 1917 (10-17).

May 30, 2009, 09:44 AM
That helps

May 30, 2009, 11:54 AM
They were made by Winchester,Remington,and Eddystone.They were making the rifle for the British as the m1914 in .303 so when we entered WW1 and was short 1903's they were retooled in 30-06 and issued to u.s. troops.I remember reading that more 1917's were fielded in France then were 03's.Put into storage after WW1and then taken out and reissued at the start of WW2,a large majority went to the Philippines,Far East,Greece and any other theater of operations where they just needed weapons.After the war they were just dumped on the market.D.C.M.,ROTC,American Legion,VFW and any number of surplus houses.I think the going rate was $14.95.Stock should have the initial of the manufacture on the muzzle end,W,R,E in original condition,as should the barrel .But so many were overhauled during the second world war that replacement barrels and stocks are common.You can find the manufactured date by googling(1917 enfield serial numbers)and following that link.Always have loved them ,between 1914's,1917's,and even two Remington M30's i have 13 .Got lucky and bought the majority when there was little interest in them.

May 30, 2009, 12:32 PM

May 30, 2009, 12:37 PM
The stock has an R (Remington) at the end but there is a RIA over a FK inside of a square. According to the website below this would indicate that it was redone at the Rock Island Arsenal and inspected by Frank Krack from 1920-1930. What do you think?


June 2, 2009, 10:55 PM
The Last of the 1917 Enfield surplus went to Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation. So the well has gone dry. Estate sales are a good place to look.

June 5, 2009, 07:11 AM

Google this: U.S. Military Firearms Manufacture Dates

Google it just as I have typed it, and then click on the 1st (top) website.

According to the site, your Rem. Model of 1917 was made in 1918. I have an Eddystone made the same year. Love the old beast! Mine was made into a BEAUTIFUL sporter, and she shoots "plum" to boot!).

My ol' Eddy '06 likes this:

55.5 grns. of IMR 4350
Rem. Brass
CCI 200 L.R. primers (if you can find some in these times...)
190 grn. Hornady B.T.S.P.'s
O.A.L. 3.33"

Keep 'em center,


James K
June 5, 2009, 11:06 AM
Most of the symbol and letter markings on those guns are inspection marks, put on by persons now unknown to indicate that the part had passed one of often many inspections. The eagle head is the U.S. proof/acceptance stamp, indicating that the rifle passed final proof and was accepted by the army.