View Full Version : BATFE wait time?

March 24, 2009, 09:45 AM
I'm waiting for approval on a supressor. Paperwork and check was sent about the middle of January. The check was cashed about a week later and I'm still waiting.

March 24, 2009, 10:36 AM
I hear they're running about 3 months right now. The check being cashed doesn't mean anything. The check gets cashed in ATL, and then the paperwork gets sent off to NFA.

I did a form 4 back in October and it took 76 days from door to door. I got the paperwork in before the Obama craze though.

At about 2 months I'd call, with serial number and information in hand, and ask about the progress.

Then, keep waiting.

March 24, 2009, 10:42 AM
Just got an approval last week. 100 days.

March 30, 2009, 11:08 PM
Form 3s are taking 3 weeks, but YHM takes 2 MONTHS from order date to signature date by the president. Last business I do with them on their cans. Terrible.:barf:

May 14, 2009, 05:23 PM
I'm resurrecting this thread because I'm looking at getting a Gemtech suppressor. By far chance, does anyone have the lead times from Gemtech to their dealers, AND/OR a recent processing time from BATFE?


May 14, 2009, 05:46 PM
I was waiting on two form 4's from the third week of Jan. and one arrived in the mail last thursday and the other on monday of this week. 5/11

May 14, 2009, 08:34 PM
By my count thats about 16 weeks or 4 months :eek:

Okay, I'll have to mentally prepare myself.



May 14, 2009, 09:31 PM
Ordered my Gemtech Halo at the end of November '08. Dealer got it in the 1st week of January. BATF paperwork and check sent 2nd week of January and I'm still waiting.

May 15, 2009, 08:54 AM
I sent my stuff in March 09. Just the other day I talked to my NFA guy and he said the wait times are 12-16 weeks.

May 15, 2009, 10:42 AM
Okay, I talked to my local Dealer/Class 3 and he spoke to Gemtech this morning. Wait times for the can I want is 12 weeks. I'm a patient person, and if I order this now I might get to use it before the year is over :eek:

Thanks for the updates, again.

May 15, 2009, 01:07 PM

glad I got my form 4 mailed in before the election.:barf: Took 76 days "back then".

May 17, 2009, 08:44 PM
I purchased an SBR last August, it was approved on November 4th, and I'm still waiting for someone to MAIL the paperwork!

May 17, 2009, 08:48 PM
It's been running about 13 weeks lately for my f1's and f4's.

May 19, 2009, 03:14 PM
I just picked up my Trident-9 suppressor that I sent in the Form 4 on 1/14/09.
Two days short of 17 weeks. :(
Transfer type: Individual

May 19, 2009, 04:22 PM
Spike's had my Gemtech in stock, and it is now on the shelf with my name on it. I will send my forms in on Thursday (my next day off)

May 20, 2009, 09:25 AM
Got it:D

May 21, 2009, 07:33 PM
mailed Form 1: 2/09/09
Pending: 4/10/09
Approved: Today!!! 5/21/09
Now just have to anxiously wait by the mail box

June 22, 2009, 08:18 PM
Just got my SWR Spectre today. I ordered it on Jan 13th, paperwork was a revocable trust done through the dealer. Paid with certified check. Not sure how long it took them once I paid to actually send in the paperwork though. But nevertheless I have it even if it took 5 months !

July 2, 2009, 03:41 PM
I am currently at 58 days since my paperwork went in.

July 2, 2009, 06:55 PM
My paper work went pending on May 21:( This is just stupid that it takes this long.

July 2, 2009, 08:05 PM
i called to ask for the new ATL address or PO box, and I made the comment, so Ill hear from you in 4 months, and he laughed a little and said, longer than that. that was last week, on a CLEO sign off form 4

July 2, 2009, 09:32 PM
My local dealer said there are a total of, get this, 12 people who process Form 4's for the entire U.S. Wonder why it takes so long?

July 7, 2009, 06:25 PM
We can hire 30 people to do a goverment test on mustard and its medical benifits, but only 12 people who get paid a salery, to do a job that holds everybody up. I bet if they were gettting paid by the number of forms they completed a week they would get it done alot faster! Again just another form of control.:mad: July 7 still waiting.

July 8, 2009, 01:40 PM
Which form do I need to fill out. I want to change my 16in M4 barrel to a 10.5in Barrel.

Im pretty sure I need Form 1. But Im not positive.

July 8, 2009, 03:13 PM
Yep - Here (http://www.atf.gov/forms/pdfs/f53201.pdf)

July 8, 2009, 05:45 PM
ive already got it filled out. im stopping by the jail tomorrow to talk to the Sheriff(who happens to be related) to have him fill out the "local leo" section on the back. Get the fingerprint part done then a 2x2 photo and I can mail it off. I just wanted to be sure I had the right form filled out haha

July 28, 2009, 05:36 PM
Did a transfer form Tennessee to Texas and then filled out all appropriate paper work and sent it in. Being a Class III fireatrms owner now, I'd think it would be fairly quick? This was started Nov 24, 2008 and now waiting on the transfer to me since April 14. Anybody experiencing this type slowdown?
I have NO problems and ALL the paperwork it correct. What's the deal?

July 29, 2009, 12:30 PM
Holy cow, Got my stamp and it only took (went pending) May 21-29July.

Boone Hillbilly
August 1, 2009, 03:24 PM
Yup YHM = long wait time.. I ordered cans back in Marchand I am still waiting.. My last customer approval was submitted back in December and was approved 2 days ago:barf:

August 8, 2009, 08:20 PM
Well as of today I am at 95 days and still waiting.

August 8, 2009, 10:06 PM
Paperwork submitted end of January 2009, approved early June 2009.

August 11, 2009, 11:38 AM
Mine are averaging around 6-9 weeks for a Trust. Without the fingerprints & sign-off nonsense it goes alot quicker.

August 11, 2009, 03:51 PM
Mine are averaging around 6-9 weeks for a Trust. Without the fingerprints & sign-off nonsense it goes alot quicker

What do you throw an extra Benjamin in for the BATFE approval clerk?:D

I do mine through my corporation and the wait time has been 4-6 months

August 11, 2009, 06:49 PM
yeah i did 4 sets of paperwork on a trust about 90 days ago. got 2 machine guns paperwork approved in 44 days and 50 days, I am still waiting on the paperwork for the reising (it is a receiver and parts but listed a complete gun since the previous owner took it apart to clean and then he died and his idiot family lost the stock and barrel) and the firecontrol group for another project

October 14, 2009, 12:42 PM
Just an update. As of today the wait is now at 162 days. Still nothing. I called a while back and it ha been in pending status since 8/1/09.

October 15, 2009, 07:52 PM
Wow. Filed a Form 3 to transfer a can to TX. I signed and mailed on 5-20-09. Got approved 10-3-09. Holy crap.:eek:

October 19, 2009, 01:34 PM
Well I just called this morning and my paperwork was approved on 10/9. So it should be just a little bit more for it to be ready for pick-up.

October 22, 2009, 03:39 PM
Got the paperwork and my suppressor today.:D

Grand total from the time the paperwork was mailed till i recedived it back was 170 days.

Man I wish it was like it was a couple of years back when things were getting back in only 30 days or so.

October 22, 2009, 03:55 PM
June 6 to October 16. Form 1 silencer on revocable living trust.


October 23, 2009, 09:05 PM
Sent paperwork in April 14 and got approval Sept 14. Paperwork trickles down s l o w l y. Picked up my AC556 yesterday, Oct 22. ATF kept telling me they were waiting on fingerprints to come back from FBI. Funny thing was that ATF has me on file and have a number of prints they could quickly peek at to KNOW it was me....
L O N G wait, but worth it in the end when I got to fondle my new (looks to be unfired w/box and manual) AC 556.

November 2, 2009, 08:12 PM
Welcome to the wait - I am going on 4 months for transfer to a class 3 dealer

November 4, 2009, 01:28 PM
Took over two months for my can to come in from YHM. Just sent of the check today. Now more waiting..... :)

November 5, 2009, 08:05 AM
M16 Autosear I am at 4months for the first transfer and it's not done! Once to my state I have another wait! Maybe sometime in 2010? My first 3 went very quickly! BTW transferring as a LLC

Willie Lowman
November 5, 2009, 10:43 AM
I am looking at ten weeks from pending right now on my second SBS...

Two cans on form 3 still not even in Ohio yet. AHHHH... NFA...

November 5, 2009, 03:48 PM
Funny. I was reading a thread similar to this on SilencerTalk. The thread had been going for a couple of years. The begining of the thread was from back in 2007 and people were complaining at that time about the 30 day turn- around times that their forms were taking.
I would love to see those kind of time frames again.

November 11, 2009, 08:01 PM
I just got a Form 1 back. Check was cashed on 10/7 and the approved form arrived at my dealer on 11/6. This was done under a trust.

November 12, 2009, 09:25 PM
Well, I mailed mine 7-29-09, Check cleared the bank. 8-12-09, approved form came in todays mail.11-12-09. stamp was stuck on 11-9-09..:D

November 13, 2009, 01:22 PM
Any update on how long Form 3 transfers are taking? I have a couple of items coming into the CT and then I have to do the Form 4 transfer. :mad:

November 13, 2009, 10:54 PM
My most recent form 1 left my hands in Feb of 09...
Received finally in 9/09...
LLC in Texas.

November 26, 2009, 04:44 AM
Well, if the wait on the last one wasn't long enough, I started the process all over again today. Purchased a Gemtech Halo. Paperwork will go to the sheriff on Monday for sign off and then wait on ATF all over again. Got a dealer working on a SilencerCo Sparrow for me but haven't heard when that will come in so no paperwork started on that onoe yet.

Man I hope ATF speeds up on this one.

December 6, 2009, 08:49 PM
What form do I need to legally own a Handy 410 pistol; a single shot manufactured by H&R from 1922 to 1935?

Willie Lowman
December 7, 2009, 01:18 AM
That would be form 4. To legally transfer the ownership of a gun on the NFA registry.

If the gun you want to own is not on the registry, run, don't walk, away from it.

December 11, 2009, 05:29 PM
85 days and counting on my YHM Mite

December 12, 2009, 09:53 AM
71 days and counting here....

December 15, 2009, 11:43 AM
88 and counting....

December 15, 2009, 06:52 PM
I just got my TX individual F4 MG transfer back. 60 days door to door.

December 16, 2009, 03:23 PM
I just got my TX individual F4 MG transfer back. 60 days door to door.

Nice. Who was the examiner? Anymore this seems to play a huge role in the timeframes.

December 17, 2009, 01:45 PM
Jones. I believe she's new and kickin ass. I included a current copy of TXDL, CHL and recently approved F1. Dunno if they helped. I had them handy and didn't think they would hurt.

December 17, 2009, 03:14 PM
136 days and counting on a Form 1 for and SBR

December 19, 2009, 03:58 PM
Got my Form 4 MG X-fer back in 44 days, I sent them the ppr work on 10/28/09 and got the approved form back on 12/11/09, examiner was Andrew Ashter. I also sent in a Form 1 for a 9mm AR15-SBR build in the same envelope which was sent out on 10/28/09...I'm still waiting on that, and I also sent in another Form 1 on 12/09/09 for a SIG 551 SBR build. Lets see how long it takes for these to come back. SBRs usually take 4-6 months in my experience.

December 19, 2009, 04:07 PM
I spoke to my examiner about submitting other approved Form 1s or Form 4s CHL, DL, Hunting Permit or even a 03 (Curio & Relic) FFL, if it would help speed up processing time. In short they said, none of the extra paperwork matters. To quote the examiner..."Each tax stamp is its own transaction, and has to go through its own due-diligence process. Submitting extraneous paperwork won't speed things up." I used to send copies of previously approved Forms but quit doing so after being told that it doesn't matter. Actually, my latest Tx MG X-fer on a Form 4 took 44 days! I was impressed, now if they can move that fast with the SBR applications I have on Form 1s I would just about crap in my pants!

December 31, 2009, 04:32 PM
Update...so my Form 1 for my SBR finally made it back today...12/31/09 sent in on 10/28/09...just over 2 months, not too bad!

January 8, 2010, 11:07 PM
Man, these times are getting longer and longer.

My suppressor took 5 months to get back!

January 20, 2010, 07:01 AM
YES.......... Check Cleared today............ :)

Getting Closer....................

January 25, 2010, 02:46 PM
Form 1 SBR
Mailed 7/30/09
Received 1/25/10

February 3, 2010, 05:04 PM
Mailed: 9/17/09
Received 2/3/10

February 22, 2010, 06:36 PM
Here is the current.

Individual transfer
Gemtech Halo
Forms mailed 12/28
Approved form back at the dealer 2/22
Examiners were William Shipman and Dawn Henson

56 days door to door. Sweet

February 22, 2010, 06:41 PM
Dawn is SUPER Fast...she has done two of my X-fers so far <40 days door to door...one was a SBR the other was a MG.

February 22, 2010, 07:11 PM
I sent in the paperwork for my suppressor on 10/19/09. Forms were completed 2/8/10. Picked up the suppressor today. Little over 4 months. I am a happy camper.


March 18, 2010, 01:02 PM
So I hit a bump in the road it seems...I had a MG X-fer, that is taking a bit longer..Check Cashed 1/13/10...still waiting on that one :confused:

I'm about to start another MG X-fer...but this one will go from an out of state individual to my Class 3 to me...gosh the last time I had one of these it almost took an entire year to complete! :eek:

March 23, 2010, 04:49 PM
2 suppressors
4 months (it's getting better)

Willie Lowman
March 29, 2010, 09:54 AM
Good news everyone! Just got one back went pending January 18, approved March 18.

March 29, 2010, 05:31 PM
Mine went pending Jan. 21 a month after my check cleared.. still waiting... :confused:

April 1, 2010, 10:14 PM
A little over three months for me mine came in today.

April 5, 2010, 11:59 AM
Check Cashed 1/13/10
Pending 2/24/10

April 10, 2010, 05:26 AM
Ordered my YHM Mite back in AUGUST 2009 it took a few months to come it then filled out the paperwork in December 2009. Picked up my Mite yesterday April 2010.

I saved a few $$$ by ordering from a non stocking dealer. I think the best bet is to buy from a "Stocking" Dealer and save a few months of waiting....

April 17, 2010, 11:30 PM
My form 4 came back yesterday.

Sent check off Dec. 22
Went pending Jan. 21st
Got the call yesterday from my FFL April 17th

April 19, 2010, 01:14 AM
Just got done with a Form 1.

Mailed 12/30/09
Approved on 4/7/10
Received on 4/16/10

Examiners were Andrew Ashton and Rob Howard.

107 days door to door. Apparently Ashton is getting faster:rolleyes:

May 11, 2010, 09:14 AM
How can you find out if your BATF Form 4 paperwork has gone pending or been approved? Mine arrived at the BATF office on April 23. I know to be patient and expect a lenghty wait time but was just curious as to if there was a way to track the progress.

May 16, 2010, 12:51 PM
See page 4 of the Form 4 instructions:
8. Status Inquiries and Questions. Information relating to the NFA and other firearms laws is available at the ATF Internet website at www.atf.gov . Any inquiry relating to the status of an application to transfer an NFA firearm or about procedures in general should be directed to the NFA Branch at (304) 616-4500. Please be aware that any dissemination by ATF of information relating to the application to register an NFA firearm must conform with the restrictions in 26 U.S.C. ยง 6103. The opportunity provided in item 8 to authorize ATF to disclose information is intended to enable ATF to respond to inquiries by the transferee regarding the application. The failure to complete item 8 will be considered a declination of authorization to release the information.

May 16, 2010, 12:54 PM
Does anybody have a recent NFA Form3 SOT --> SOT turnaround time?

May 16, 2010, 09:44 PM
CDE, check with your dealer.

When I got my last suppressor, the dealer provided me with a contact number and what to ask. I got to know one of the agents...I guess he was the unlucky one to answer the phone!!! It helped a bunch when he realized that I was a retired Fed!! :D

Also, if the dealer did not mark on the form that they could speak with you...they will not!

May 17, 2010, 06:59 AM
Thanks Speedloader and n7qvu. I guess I will just sit back and be patient. It will be a long 3 to 4 months. or longer. Thanks for the help regardless.

May 17, 2010, 08:55 AM
Not a problem...drop me a PM if you have any questions.

May 18, 2010, 09:28 AM
I spoke to YHM yesterday and they said F3 xfer time is running around 6 weeks.

May 19, 2010, 09:46 AM
Form 4 for a suppressor
Mailed 5/19/10

May 19, 2010, 01:28 PM
New to this forum, hello everyone. I like guns etc, etc. :D

Form 4 for a suppressor

Check cashed 03/10/10
Went Pending 04/09/10

Talked to a gentleman today at ATF and was told they are no longer giving out average wait times per his boss's instructions. Too many phone calls asking a perfectly legitimate question so I was told.

Hope to learn a few things while I'm here so thanks in advance.

May 19, 2010, 02:16 PM
I believe my dealer mailed everything off in January, and my check has not been cashed yet. This is for a Form 4. This seems ridiculous. Has anyone heard of a wait this long just for the check to clear? My dealer WILL NOT give me my serial number to call in and ask what the deal is.

May 19, 2010, 03:01 PM
Doesn't sound right to me, I sent off a form 1 and 4 apr 10 and both checks were cashed weeks ago... Might want to call or have your dealer call and check the status

May 19, 2010, 03:54 PM
Dan, somethings not right. Thats the FIRST thing they do is take your money + you payed for your toy and your dealer won't give up the info? :mad:

May 20, 2010, 09:48 AM
I've had checks and credit cards into ATF, and they are always charged/deposited the same day they arrive at ATF. Very fast.

Not so fast at refunding $$$.
I charged my FFL on a card, finally got a small refund check in the mail 45 days later.

May 22, 2010, 08:54 PM
How are you finding the status of your Form 1's and Form 4's?

I'm just starting the waiting process for a pair of SBR builds.



May 24, 2010, 02:46 PM
NFA Item: 2 COLT M4's SBR, HK UMP 45 SBR, V53 SBR
Form Type: Form 1's
Transferee Type: Individual
Forms Sent: 2/16/2010
Forms Recieved: 2/22/2010
Check Cashed: 3/2/2010
Pending Date: 4/?/2010
Approved Date:5/18/2010
Forms Received:5/21/2010
Examiner: Albert L. L Something

June 20, 2010, 03:15 PM
Form 4 for a M4-2000 suppressor

Check cashed 03/10/10
Went Pending 04/09/10
Approved 06/10/10
Contacted 06/17/10
ATF Official Nickie Dudash and Rob Howard.
3 months with them... I'll take it :)

June 20, 2010, 08:56 PM
Form 4 for Outback II and SWR HEMS II

Paperwork filled out for BOTH on 5/16/2009
CLEO signoff for both on 6/4/2009
Both Form 4's mailed to ATF 6/5/2009
Pestered the ATF guy ALOT!!!
Dealer marked "I Do" on line 9 allowing me to speak with the ATF Agents.
Pending on the Outback July 2009
Pending on the HEMS August 2009
Sign off on both form 4's by ATF official Jason M. "Something"
Outback 9/24/2009 and the Hems II 10/15/2009.
Mailed from ATF THREE WEEKS LATER!!!!!
Dealer got the Outback Paperwork 10/22/2009
Dealer got the HEMS paperwork 11/16/2009.

I am looking to get a 9mm Trident and I don't really know how long it will take this time.

I have had two dealers tell me that it helps if the dealer has a good working relationship with the examiner...who knows though!

June 21, 2010, 02:05 PM
My dealer just called and told me that he got the paperwork back on my KEG-12 today. I sent the forms in on March 27, 2010. About 3 months wait time....not TOO awful....

June 27, 2010, 03:20 PM
Form 4 for a suppressor mailed 4/10, my dealer called 6/26 and said it was in.

Still waiting on form 1 mailed same day

June 27, 2010, 05:09 PM
From 1 returned approved in less than 60 days.

July 2, 2010, 02:09 PM
Papers in: 3/13/2010
Stamp out: 6/30/2010

July 2, 2010, 02:35 PM
Form 3's have been taking about a month for me as an FYI

July 7, 2010, 07:45 PM
Just called to find where my paperwork was and why they haven't cashed the check. Found out that they don't have the paperwork. Great... Now I have to start over since the paperwork has gone MIA..

July 21, 2010, 08:06 PM
Form 4 sent April 14 2010.
My dealer received the paperwork back July 19 2010.

July 28, 2010, 07:32 PM
gemtech blackside .45--w/lid
dealer stock-cinci,ohio:D

forms sent-5/20/10
check cashed5/25/10
approved 7/21/10
form arrived at dealer-7/28/10
one happy camper-7/28/10
my first stamp-quick too:eek:

July 28, 2010, 07:59 PM
YHM Mite - Dealer Stocked

Paper worked sent 7/19/10
Check Cashed 7/27/10
and the wait begins...............

August 9, 2010, 10:48 AM
Form 4 for a suppressor
Mailed 5/19/10
Dealer called for pick up 8/9/10 :D

August 9, 2010, 03:00 PM
6 months for me. Dealer didnt have the right SN on the can.

September 2, 2010, 01:11 PM
the silencer I did on form 4 was on 4-7-10.got back on 6-10-10 from 07 manufacturer /sot.

September 2, 2010, 01:29 PM
5 months for form 1 on trust. Got back in the mail yesterday.


September 3, 2010, 06:52 PM
sot/07 manufacturer are first.form 1 people like us are last even with a [email protected] license.thanks.

September 4, 2010, 08:55 PM
sot/07 manufacturer are first
Of course SOT to SOT xfers are faster.
Form 3s do not require taxes or background checks!

September 15, 2010, 04:11 PM
I have two Form 1's pending right now: Both SBR's. One is an AR in .223 and one is a Glock Magazine Lower in 9mm.

1. NFA Item: SBR
2. Form Type: Form 1
3. Transferee Type: LLC
4. Form 4 Sent: 05/20/2010
5. Delivered: 05/24/2010
6. Check Cashed: 06/02/10
7. Pending Date: 06/23/10
8. Approved Date: 9/9/10
9. Form 1 Received: Pending
10. Picked up from Dealer: N/A
11. Examiner Name: Nicky Dudash

September 16, 2010, 11:27 AM
ATF just turned around a Form 3 for me in 17 days.

September 21, 2010, 04:22 PM
3 Items on form 4 in okla. never over 102 days. on any, suppressor and two sbr.

September 29, 2010, 01:51 PM
man i'll tell you what i don't get why form 1 take so long?(it's been 5 months)
:barf::barf:All my form 4's have been 2 to 3 months top's.

October 8, 2010, 02:23 PM
Osprey .45
Forms Sent: 8/18/10
Pending: 8/25/10
Approved: 10/4/10
Form Received:
Examiner: Shipman
Transferor Letter: S
Woo Hoo!!!!!! Now THATS FAST!

October 18, 2010, 01:51 PM
80 days from me to the Atf and back on form 4 trust. And even got the suppressor from his personal picks m1776 serial #ATF agent AL Lamburger rules , also did two sbr stamps at same time as each other and it was 92 days me to ATF and back on form 4 trust. thru benson firearms okc. $40 to do trust send me the packet and even brought the can to tulsa when he did a gun show here. brandon is real cool to deal with.

October 18, 2010, 03:41 PM
Osprey .45
Forms Sent: 8/18/10
Pending: 8/25/10
Approved: 10/4/10
Form Received:
Examiner: Shipman
Transferor Letter: S
Woo Hoo!!!!!! Now THATS FAST!

Im reneging on my assessment of "fast". The form was approved on 10/4 but they still haven't arrived at the dealer:mad: The examiner approved several forms for my dealer that same day and they have all arrived, but mine seems to be MIA:confused: This sucks.

October 23, 2010, 11:11 PM
Form sent 5/7/2010
check cashed 5/21/2010
pending 6/11/2010
approved 10/18/2010
stamp received 10/22/2010 :D

November 10, 2010, 09:22 PM

November 11, 2010, 09:17 AM
SBR'd a Draco. Sent the Form 1 off on 9/8/10, was approved on 11/4/10, form in my hand 11/8/10.:D

Form 1 Trust, Dana Pickles was the examiner.
www.nfatracker.com (http://www.nfatracker.com/) is a good site to get an idea of what forms are taking.


November 12, 2010, 01:31 AM
Nancy Flanagan seems to be the s-l-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-w one.

November 14, 2010, 07:04 PM
YHM Mite - Dealer Stocked

Paper worked sent 7/19/10
Check Cashed 7/27/10
Approved 11/5/10 by Barbara Payne

Picked up my YHM Mite today!

December 9, 2010, 05:03 PM
Safety Harbor-KEG12 AOW
Form 4
Mailed out 9/10
Approved 12/1-Picked up from my dealer 12/8:D