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January 15, 2009, 11:55 PM
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Eric Holder speaks, during today's Senate committee "grilling"
During the course of the above, parts of which I heard this afternoon, Attorney General Nominee Holder mentioned that he agreed with President Elect Obama concerning "common sense gun laws", which included "closing the gunshow loophole" and "banning cop killer bullets". Having heard these comments I'm given to wonder as to the former, what "gunshow loophole" is the man talking about?

Re the banning of "cop killer bullets", that phrase being largely the product of media hysterics and numb-nuts teleprompter readers, these "cop killer" bullets are likely the long out of production KTW projectiles, which were developed by law enforcement types, as an aid to their fellow coppers, whose 38 Special firing revolvers, pretty much the police service weapon of the day back then, lacked penetrating power. The KTW Bullets (Teflon coated projectiles) offered enhanced penetration.

The interesting FACTS about these bullets, there are three that come to mind, are as follows.

1. They were never available via normal commercial channels, as they were sold to law enforcement only, and then under law enforcement purchase order only.
2. They have been out of production for many years.
3. So far as the record shows, the number of cops killed with these "cop killer bullets" is ZERO.

Given that neither Obama or Holder could likely HONESTLY plead ignorance of the facts, it remains that Holder's spouting off on the subject raises serious question as to the propriety of his confirmation to the office of U.S. Attorney General, even lacking other aspects of his background and past that of and in themselves, raise what might be disqualifying questions.

Readers of the foregoing might consider getting in touch with their U.S. Senators, ASAP.

January 16, 2009, 12:32 AM
This is the same Holder that in his breif on the Heller decision stated that citizens have no right or reason to have a gun in the home.

January 16, 2009, 05:47 PM
I watched Stephen Halbrook give his two cents on C-SPAN this morning. After Mr. Halbrook was done speaking, Senator Leahy proceeded to grill him on why his home state of Vermont was so much more accepting of gun rights than the state of Virginia where the Senator lives when he is doing his Congrssional business. Completely missed the boat since this is about someone who will enforce federal laws, I thought.

Tennessee Gentleman
January 16, 2009, 06:43 PM
Having heard these comments I'm given to wonder as to the former, what "gunshow loophole" is the man talking about?

Like most soundbite terms there is no such thing as the "Gun Show Loophole" what the Bradys are talking about is the lack of a required background check for private sales between those who are not firearms dealers. The reason they use Gunshow in the term is because they believe that a gunshow is where most of these sales take place. What I have not seen is how many crime guns are obtained through private sales without a backgound check at a gunshow.

Te Anau
January 16, 2009, 06:51 PM
Holder is a scumbag. :barf:

Al Norris
January 17, 2009, 12:08 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen, the Legal & Political Forum is closed. From the rules of the Law & Civil Rights Forum:
Discussions in this forum will be centered upon legal issues as they relate to the 2nd Amendment and other Civil Rights. Constitutional law (which would encompass separation of powers, the impairment of contracts clause, the full faith and credit clause, etc., as well as the Bill of Rights) will also be on topic. Straight political discussions or partisan politics will be off topic.

Senate confirmation hearings are nothing but partisan politics.