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November 27, 2008, 09:04 AM
Is there a place on line to research and find dates and serial numbers on The Winchester Model 94 30 30 ?

November 27, 2008, 09:25 AM
This is the place,

The home page for many others.
I think it was Mr. Keenan, or Mr. Watson that posted this site a while back.

December 3, 2008, 11:14 PM
If I were to guess, I'd bet that Harley Nolden would be able to steer you in the right direction.


November 23, 2011, 09:26 AM
I have a Winchester model 94 serial # 2775xx3. The chart in this thread for serial # id show a lapse between 64 and 65 models. The 65 models all start with 279 and the 64 models were all below 2,700,000. Is there an explanation for that. I am a newbie to the forum so any help is wonderful. I am thinking of trading the rifle for a 270 or 308 but want to verify its value. Thanks

Jim Watson
November 23, 2011, 09:36 AM
Winchester made a lot of changes in their guns in 1964, mostly to cut manufacturing costs. They put a big jump in their serial number sequence which shows the restart with what are really new models, even though under the same old names.

Yours is one of the redos and is therfore less valuable than a "pre '64."

November 26, 2011, 06:43 PM
This is the easiest way to check if one's Winchester 94 is a pre-64 or a post-64:


The pre-64 will have a screw head visible in the bottom of the forward end of the lower lever link; the post-64 will not.


February 7, 2012, 02:47 PM
I have a Winchester 94 with a serial number of 913598. Can anyone tell me when this gun was made, and approx. what it might be worth??

February 7, 2012, 08:26 PM
1922 - No gun can be evaluated w/o a full description of it's factory features and the remaining % of original factory finish on wood/metal, including any known defects like rust, cracks, dents, and it's mechanical operating condition.

It could be a rusted $50 tomato stake Standard Carbine, or a $10-20,000 Special Order Deluxe Rifle in pristine condition - you didn't say.


February 8, 2012, 10:29 AM
It's in very good condition and is very accurate when shot. The only thing I can see wrong with it is that the saddle ring is missing and I can't find one to replace it.

February 8, 2012, 11:17 AM
Without pictures we can tell you almost nothing.

Don H
February 8, 2012, 11:45 AM
"Very good condition" is too nebulous a term to assign a value to a firearm. Standard factors for accurately describing a firearm's condition can be found here: http://www.armchairgunshow.com/Condition-NRA-Guns.htm

Clear photos, both close-ups of details and overall views, would be of immense help to us for estimating value.

April 25, 2012, 06:15 PM
I have a model 94 and the serial # 977201, could someone tell me the year?

April 26, 2012, 03:44 PM

June 1, 2012, 05:47 PM
i have a winchester model 94. serial number 1846845. can anyone tell me when this was made and approx. what it may be worth

June 1, 2012, 08:02 PM

June 30, 2012, 02:47 PM
I have a winchester model 94ae 44 rem mag ranger with 16" barrel NIB no defects at all.
The serial # is 6536372. Can anyone tell me anything about this gun. when it was made what it might be worth. Thanks

June 30, 2012, 09:49 PM
There are no SN records for the Model 94AE, since the Winchester records were turned over to BATF with the closing of the Winchester plant in New Haven, CT in 2006, and they aren't talkin'.

The 16", .44 Mag (aka:Trapper) Model 94AE was introduced in 1986, well before your SN - so the best you could do would be to narrow down the period: 94AE- no safety (1983-92), 94AE-CBS(1992-2003), 94AE-tang safety(2003-06).


July 15, 2012, 02:05 AM
Hello all: I've followed the posts so I assume my 1894 AE serial #: 6514151 was one of the "lost" ones. Any guesses as to manufacture date?
Many thanks!

July 21, 2012, 03:48 PM
I have a winchester 30-30 serial #3250925 in great condition and can't figure out how old it is or how much it's worth. Could someone help me out please?

July 22, 2012, 11:23 AM
1969 - $50, if it's a tomato stake, $350 if pristine (you didn't say).


July 22, 2012, 11:43 AM
Thanks! Sorry, yeah it is pristine I suppose except for two scratches on the wood

July 22, 2012, 05:25 PM
Sorry, scratched wood isn't pristine..............


July 29, 2012, 11:59 AM
Serial number is L04897.


July 31, 2012, 03:51 AM
above 6000000 is yr 2000 and up (aprox):D

August 4, 2012, 11:52 AM
I have a Winchester 94 30 30 SN #2841042 that was left toe by my grandfather. Can any one tell me what it might be worth? An estimate or range. Is in very good condition

August 5, 2012, 01:40 PM
A 1965 Model 94's worth no more than $300, tops.


August 7, 2012, 03:20 PM
I think location has a lot to do with that. They may not bring but 300 where you are but here a real nice one will bring 400 or more.

On the X
August 8, 2012, 10:45 AM
I came across a number of NIB 94s that are part of an estate sale. Any speculation as to Fair Market Value.

1. 20" blue 44mag Ser# 635XXXX

2. 16" Brushed 44mag "Trapper" w/saddle ring Ser# 639XXXX

3. 9422 w/crossbolt safety

Waiting for them to set pricing.

August 8, 2012, 07:33 PM

August 10, 2012, 11:58 AM
Hi yall, I new here and Im hoping you all can help me out. I have a Winchester model 94AE 30-30 serial #6378871 that is unfired and all stainless steel with short tube and synthetic furniture.

I cant find squat on this (thats why I bought it).... Any Ideas??

August 12, 2012, 10:52 AM
While Winchester has barreled Model 94's with stainless steel barrels (early 20th Century), they've NEVER made a Model 94 entirely of stainless steel.

What Winchester has done, however, is to finish some Carbon steel models to look like stainless steel (or pewter, or Silver).

Winchester also made a few Brushed Chrome (finish) 94 Trapper's, with synthetic stocks for a S.H.O.T. show (IIRC), sometime around 1999 - your 94AE might possibly be one of those (a call to Winchester with the SN might tell you)

Also, If a bbl is stamped "proof steel", it is not stainless steel.


August 13, 2012, 12:25 PM
Wow!! You are a wealth of knowledge, and it does say "proof steel" on the barrel.
This thing looks to be at 98%+ what would you value it at? Would you shoot it? Or should it be kept in the safe?

August 14, 2012, 11:26 AM
Well - YMMV.

While I wouldn't take a shiny/silvered gun out hunting, I might shoot one on the range - but who knows ?

If it's one of those "specials" (i.e., verified in writing by Winchester), it could be more valuable to someone who collect such, fired as little as possible.

Keep in mind that NO guns are truely unfired - since the factories usually "proved" them by shooting at least one shot through them. (Some states now require that fired case be kept/sold with the gun for handguns, IIRC)

FWIW, In over 50 years, I've never personally changed/damaged ANY firearm via simply firing it - at least enough that anybody could discern.


64 Model 1894
August 14, 2012, 10:49 PM
I have a 1964 model 1894 in very good to excellent condition, and it was manufactured prior to the changes (screw head visible, rounded bottom), it was handed down to me from my father, who purchased it brand new in '64, his first firearm. It is my prized possession, and i was hoping for a very rough (ball park, parking lot of the ball park) estimate on its value to help me to decide whether to insure it or not. Serial number is 2596336, if that is any help. Your assistance is greatly appreciated, whatever the results. Thank you.

August 15, 2012, 06:00 PM
Winchester had long changed the "Model 1894" label to "Model 94" by the time the 1960's came along.

And, FYI, even though your Dad might have purchased it in 1964, it was most likely "in the pipeline" for awhile before it got to him - SN 2,599,632 is the highest seen & verified pre-64 Model 94, & the factory Polishing Room records list SN 2,599,694 as the last SN made in 1963, so you actually have a 1963 model.

FWIW, The value of ANYthing would be commensurate with it's condition:

A tomato stake per-64 Model 94 might be worth only $100 or so for parts; while a NIB/pristine example worth closer to $500/$600 - although some sellers seem awfully proud of theirs, judging by their asking prices.


64 Model 1894
August 19, 2012, 09:43 AM
Thank you for the information, and the SN info is interesting, nice to know that it is actual a '63 model. The value is all sentimental for me, i hope the rifle stays in my family for many years after I'm gone, but my boys are to young to understand this kind of thing as of yet. probably won't worry about insuring it, as according to to the amounts given, it wouldn't be too difficult to replace, should anything (God forbid) ever happen to it. As for condition, i took my cues from the NRA guide. No scarring of the wood and only light wear of the finish around cornered or raised surfaces, no scratches, pitting, rust, or dings. This rifle has been well cared for, and shall continue to be. Thanks again for the info, it is greatly appreciated.

September 7, 2012, 08:25 PM
I have a model 1894 30-30 with the serial number 12595 waiting for me in my dad's basement. NRA condition is a solid good (did not get a chance to get pictures last time he pulled it out): no rust, wood bruised and scratched with no cracks (it was a daily use saddle gun), action smooth, trigger light and crisp, and the only replacement parts I saw were the "saddle sights" (low profile sights to avoid snagging on a scabbard, patent date 1901 on rear sight). While I have no intention of selling (been in the family since purchase), I am curious as to what it might be worth.

September 11, 2012, 02:23 PM
Winchester Model 94, SN 142282, Yr of Man. 1898
No saddle ring.
Factory short magazine.
Brass butt-plate.

Trying to figure what the value of this rifle is. Seems to be difficult to find info for pre 64 guns. Spent several hours online and am either missing something or just not bright enough (no comments!) to find something other than vague info. Don't really want to get the museum at Cody involved as of yet, $60, yea, I know, I'm cheap!

Pics are attached.

Appreciate any information and help I can get. Thanks in advance.

September 11, 2012, 04:06 PM
OK, kentjome. Looks to me like you have a parts gun: either a carbine with a rifle stock or a rifle with a carbine forearm and barrel (my guess is this one), and from the magazine cap it looks like a cut and repaired magazine tube. Looks like a post-war barrel based on the sight. It never had a saddle ring. I have never seen an original brass buttplate on an 1894, and it doen't look like brass in the pics. Unless I am missing something, it is a shooter, value about $350-$400. But it is hard to get a real good look at it from pics.

September 11, 2012, 04:31 PM
Scorch, what if the rifle would have had a full length magazine? would it be better?

September 12, 2012, 12:29 AM
Factory half mags or 2/3 mags had a domed "button" end, from the pics yours looks like a flat end. So either a full length magazine tube or the right magazine cap would be better. But the issue of the mismatched parts will count against that gun either way. From the looks of the front sight base, it has a post-war (produced after WW2) carbine barrel on it the original barrel for an 1898 rifle would have been different. If so, look at the underside of the barrel about 2"-3" from the muzzle it may have a small notch where the other barrel band would have been. It has a carbine forearm and a rifle buttstock (I would guess this repair was done by someone who could not cut the notch for a barrel tenon used to hold the rifle forend on or who had a carbine barrel and forearm sitting close at hand). Remember, many old Winchesters were working guns, not collector items until recently.

Without the letter frorm the Buffalo Bill museum, you would not know which it was, so you would not know which way to repair it (whether to repair it to look like a carbine or a rifle).

October 10, 2012, 06:47 PM
Was just offered one for $375 in excellent cond. Blue 20 inch with light glossy wood stock. What does anyone think? Should I go for it?:confused. PS. It has cross bolt safety.

November 12, 2012, 06:50 PM
Good evening,

I am new to this forum but see a lot of very good information being given by experts on these older weapons. Like others I have a question on the date of manufacture for my fathers Model 1894 Winchester. It is a 30 WCF and the serial number is 198873. From the databases I have found, some say they are not that accurate, I have come up with a "made in 1900" date.
Does that sound accurate to you folks? If I can figure out how to put a picture on here, I would love a guesstimate evaluation of the possible worth.

Thank you very much for any information you can offer

November 13, 2012, 03:27 AM
Yes, it looks like a 1900 manufacture date is right.

FWIW, the serial number discrepancies are between the polishing room records (pre-assembly) and the shipping records (after assembly, often quite some time after assembly). Some experts like the polishing room records, mainly because polishing was one of the last steps in manufacturing before bluing and assembly, so it gives a pretty good idea of when a firearm was assembled. One problem with Winchester is that they would produce receivers in batches, then they drew from those batches (not always in order) during assembly. Also, custom firearms and special production firearms would be produced and stored for quite some time without wood because the wood would be special ordered by the customer. In either case, I think the numbers are probably close enough, it gives you an idea of when the firearm was produced.

November 13, 2012, 10:12 AM
Seeking MFG date Info on 94AE SN#9,400,361
Was just offered one for $375 in excellent cond. Blue 20 inch with light glossy wood stock. What does anyone think? Should I go for it?:confused. PS. It has cross bolt safety.

You might want to double-check that rifle's SN.

AFAIK, Winchester 94AE SN's stopped in the 6,800,000 range in 2006.

Crossbolt safeties were only used from 1992 (near SN 6,000,000) to 2003 (near SN 6,450,000) before the CBS was discontinued in favor of a tang-top safety.


Uncle Billy
November 13, 2012, 10:31 AM
I have a Model 94 that was bought new in about 1951 that's been on who knows how many deer hunts and has killed a lot of whitetails. It shows its history although I refinished the stock (it's got a surprisingly good figure I discovered after I stripped it to the wood) and redid a small compass that was inlet into the stock after the gun's original owner (my dad's best friend since the 1930s and the CCC) got lost on a watch-drive in the Adirondacks in about 1955. He still got lost more than a few times. Collected all together the stories attached to this rifle would fill a book and be a pretty good history of my family and close friends for the last 60-odd years. I don't care what the gun's market value is, not much probably, it's a family heirloom and the memories that play when the gun is handled are priceless.

I have a Model 70 in .300 H&H Magnum from the same era that has a lot of stories attached to it as well, like the moose it killed in the Yukon having its head mounted and shipped home for a lot of money, only to find the only place it would fit was in the garage. It's priceless to us as well (the rifle, not the moose head which was donated to the local gun club).

November 14, 2012, 08:44 AM
If only the guns could speak (sigh)............ :cool:


January 15, 2013, 05:10 PM
I have a '94 model 25-35 thats 75% blue and is serial number 22448. Guessing its second year production first year 25-35.

Anyone have a good contact or info on it?

Torqueroll at america on-line

January 16, 2013, 11:34 AM

The first Model 1894 RIFLE in .25-35 by date is SN 5014, and went to the warehouse 7/18/95 & shipped the same day.

The first Model 1894 CARBINE in .25-35 is SN 6506, and was sent to the warehouse 10/1/95 & shipped 10/3/95.


January 16, 2013, 12:30 PM
Appreciate the data, this is helpful.

Someone once told me that there is a repository for the original records, Cody or something. Yours appears pretty definite. Is there a contact that I might be able to converse with to find out more info on my particular serial number?


January 16, 2013, 10:35 PM
It's the Cody Museum that has most of the remaining records - but they don't gass for zip (IOW: wanna play, gotta pay).


You'll have to pay them for a certification letter, which would also include the original config & maybe when/where it was originally shipped - but I'd WAG your .25-35 actually dates from 1896-7.


January 17, 2013, 12:49 AM
Thank you, this is all good stuff.


February 8, 2013, 04:04 PM
hello can some please help with these

February 8, 2013, 07:38 PM
hello can some please help with these

4430016 - 1976
4562840 - 1977
5378405 - A 94AE, after 1982 - need more info
5614841 - Same as above
V163517 - Ditto
YB4468 - Ditto
YB4687 - Ditto

There are no SN records available for Winchester Model 94AE (Angle Eject) models, and I am unfamiliar with letter-prefixed Winchester 94 SN's. (I'm just not that into AE's)

The DOM can only be narrowed down and/or generalized with a full description of the rifle, including the presence of a crossbolt safety, no CBS, or no lawyer safety at all; chambering, barrel length & config (round, half-octagon, etc), and stock type.



March 31, 2013, 05:17 PM
I just joined this forum and really like the knowledge found here!!
I have a 1964 Winchester model 94- serial 2735504. It does not have a screw in the bottom like shown above. I was told that they converted from machined parts to stamped parts during that year. Can anyone tell me when the stamped parts began, like with what serial number? Rifles made with stamped parts are of much less value than the machined parts.
Thanks, Jim

April 1, 2013, 01:06 PM
The changes occurred in late 1963. Any 1964 or later Model 94 is "post-'64". The changes included internal and external changes to make the firearm easier to manufacture. Some of the changes are: stamped (later cast) cartridge carriers, different receiver design to allow for fewer machining steps, use of screws for link pivots, coil spring instead of leaf mainspring, changes to bolt to make it easier to machine. There is not a lot about the post-64 guns that is "bad", they are just different from the pre-64 guns (and way different from the pre-WW2 guns).

April 1, 2013, 07:06 PM
It's not only the various stamped parts, hollow roll pins, etc, that make post-64 Model 94's less desireable & less valuable than pre-64's.

During that change, Winchester also changed the way the receivers are made, switching from forged steel to a sintering process, that has a finish (on most models) that only looks like conventional bluing, but isn't.

They tend to show rust/pitting with only light handling/use - aka, as soon as you look at them. ;)

The post-64 receivers were first plated, before they would take any additional finish(s), of which there were several: "blued", "color case hardened", black chrome, "Pewter", "Gold", "Silver", and Brass. (The last 5 finishes were mostly used on commemorative models)


April 20, 2013, 02:52 PM
Might as well add my question. I have a Winchester 94AE, 45 Colt, SN 6,209,XXX. Post 2000 I would imagine but can anyone pin down the date any closer than that.

It's in very nice condition. The bluing is all there. The loading gate doesn't even have any scratches on it. No scratches on the finish. It almost looks unused based on the metal condition but I can tell it's been used and fired. Small dings and such in the wood. Overall very nice condition.

It's the 16" barrel with saddle ring. Anything you can tell me about it and it's value would be great.


April 21, 2013, 06:00 PM
It's the Cody Museum that has most of the remaining records - but they don't gass for zip (IOW: wanna play, gotta pay).

There's a dude here (Bert H.) that's a historian for the Cody Museum and has access to Winchester records. He can tell you anything you want to know about when one was made. http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/index.php

May 4, 2013, 12:03 AM
I have a winchester 32 special ser. no. 2787393 can anyone trll me when it was made?

May 4, 2013, 12:46 AM
winchester 32 special ser. no. 2787393

May 4, 2013, 10:50 PM
Thank you SCORCH

June 21, 2013, 09:52 AM
A friend inherited this Winchester 1894.These are the details he found on rifle:
Winchester model 1894 30 WCR model number 5351 95
the barrel says nickel steel barrel
manufactured by the Winchester Repeating Arms Company New Haven Connecticut USA patent August 21st 1894

Any idea of value would be appreciated.
[email protected]

June 21, 2013, 12:15 PM

Your friend has a 1910 Winchester .30-30 Rifle Model 1894, with what looks like standard features - IOW, no special order features.

The buggered forward tang sight base screw hole plug screw suggests that it might have had a tang peep sight mounted at one time - if so, it's a shame that it's gone.

The pics are too dark to determine it's gondition, in terms of the remaining % of original factory finish on wood & metal parts, and the mechanical operating condition is unstated/unknown - all of which go toward estimating value.

The best way to find the true value would be to surf only sold/closed gun-only guctions to find out how much somebody's been actually willing to pay of one in the same condition/features today/recently.

Please remember that any "asking" prices, "buy it now" prices, and "opening bids" are not values (reality) - they're hopes & dreams.


July 8, 2013, 10:03 PM
I have a 1894 Winchester ser# 308798
Can you tell the year it was made.

July 9, 2013, 02:45 AM
I have a 1894 Winchester ser# 308798
Can you tell the year it was made.

www.proofhouse.com says 1904.

July 12, 2013, 10:22 AM
Im thinking about buying a Winchester 30 30 model 94 serial 4733874 made in New Haven USA can anyone tell me year and approx value? It is not pristine but very nice condition

July 13, 2013, 01:18 AM
Im thinking about buying a Winchester 30 30 model 94 serial 4733874 made in New Haven USA can anyone tell me year and approx value?
Made in 1979, value in fair condition is $300.

August 17, 2013, 07:16 AM
I have a chance to buy a 94 can anyone tell me how old it is Serial number
5349001, Thanks

August 17, 2013, 12:06 PM

Alan, welcome to the forum ! :)

That Model 94AE was most likely made in 1983 (the 1st year for angle-eject models), or possibly early in 1984.


August 21, 2013, 06:49 PM
my serial number is 3152444. can some one tell me what year it was made

August 22, 2013, 01:47 AM

August 22, 2013, 03:53 AM
Can any one date this. It is a ranger but I am told it is still a 94 5629549

August 22, 2013, 11:00 AM
Can any one date this.
It is a ranger but I am told it is still a 94 5629549

Nobody except Winchester - but my best guess is the mid 1980's.


August 26, 2013, 12:47 PM
Hello Guys, I finally picked up a little Winchester .44 Magnum "Trapper", something I've been looking for a while now ! It's unfired & as new, but the original owner's wife threw away the box & all the paperwork. ( I think ALL wife's would do that if were allowed to. ) As we all know, these late production Winchester's are somewhat difficult to document, so perhaps someone here may be able to assist me in determining it's date of manufacture ? ( SPEC.'S: Model 94, "TRAPPER", .44 MAGNUM, 16" Bbl., w/ Saddle Ring & Cross Bolt Safety, Serial # 61734XX ) From what little I've been able to learn, it appears to be a post-2000 piece, but prior to 2003 ? That does narrow it a bit, but I'd like to try for an exact year of mfg., if at all possible. Is there a particular text out there that covers these later M-94's ? I'll be very appreciative for ANYTHING I may be able to learn about this M-94 Trapper ! THANK YOU

Best, dpast32

August 26, 2013, 07:12 PM

dpast32, welcome to TFL ! . :p

Outside of Winchester, there's no SN listing for the later AE models, mostly because there's little collector interest in them, unless they're the first/last of whatever change.

The CBS (crossbolt safety) was instituted in 1992 at approx SN 6,000,000, and discontinued in favor of the tang safety around SN 6,450,000 in 2003.

Ergo, my WAG is that your .44 Trapper dates from about 1998.


September 10, 2013, 07:40 AM
Good Morning

To start off with thanks for maintaining such a good site. I come here often for odd bits of information but this time I have a tricky one.

I just got a Mod 94 in chambered for 32 Spl

SN 172220

I'm just looking for a date. Of course the online resources date this gun too early I'm thinking 1902 but I'd like to have something to convince the customer to get a Cody certificate


September 10, 2013, 07:19 PM

The Winchester Polishing Room Records sugget the 172xxx SN range was processed in 1903; but a SN search indicates 172220 was made in 1899.

It's entirely possible that the receiver was made in 1899, but for some reason not assembled/finished until 1903.

IMO, age alone isn't sufficient reason for obtain a Cody letter - but if the gun has one or more Special Features, then a letter would be indicated, to find out in what config it left the factory. (IOW, to find out if the special features were added later by someone besides Winchester)


September 10, 2013, 09:58 PM
Your right that age alone doesn't require a Cody letter. More so in that it is a generic carbine.

But for several reasons it would be good to establish some provenance for this rifle. I believe there is enough verbal history to establish that this gun has been in Canada with the same family since new. So given that the 32 special represented a relatively small percentage during that first year and given that the number of 94's sold in Canada at the turn of the century was infinitely smaller.

What I'm getting at is this could be one of the oldest if not the oldest 32 special sold in canada. Which would certainly give the family something to cherish as they take their great grandfathers rifle deer hunting every year.

September 11, 2013, 08:16 AM

FWIW, the first .32 Special Model 1894 Carbine ((by SN) was #22967, sent to the warehouse on August 27, 1902 & shipped August 29, 1902.

(The .32 Special was introduced in 1901)


November 3, 2013, 09:23 PM
#1053137 would love any info... i think it is a 27' or 28' also anyway to find the value... anything to know if it is a long or short rifle version...it's pretty average quality for a gun sitting in the attic for 40 years and was used before then... seems like it would fire fine, 25-35 w.c.f. if I wanted to. Also any good place to sell down in Austin, TX area. Would like to sell to get a gun I can get ammo for easily. thanks!

November 4, 2013, 07:30 AM

1928; not enough info and/or pics to determine the model or assess a value.


December 6, 2013, 10:04 PM
# 6059223
I can't find anything on this. I think its a late'90s or early '00. Also it has a gold trigger. Is that of any importance? Thank You in advance.

December 7, 2013, 02:00 AM
Just to brag, I just picked up a Model 1894 rifle, 26" round barrel, 30 WCF, serial number 175XX. Yep, 1895 production, mostly un-tampered with, pretty clean. This one goes into the safe, with the 1908 vintage 1894 rifle I am going to restore.

December 7, 2013, 02:30 PM
# 6059223
I can't find anything on this. I think its a late'90s or early '00. Also it has a gold trigger. Is that of any importance? Thank You in advance.

Welcome to TFL !

In case you didn't read a previous reply I made on this subject:

Outside of Winchester, there's no SN listing for the later AE models, mostly because there's little collector interest in them, unless they're the first/last of whatever change.

The CBS (crossbolt safety) was instituted in 1992 at approx SN 6,000,000, and discontinued in favor of the tang safety around SN 6,450,000 in 2003.


December 15, 2013, 02:05 PM
How can I tell whether or not I have a model 94 carbine?

December 15, 2013, 06:45 PM

Welcome to TFL, Deke !

Excepting "Special Orders", M94 Standard Carbines were issued with 20" bbls & forend wood held in place with a barrel band.


Besides different sights, "Rifle" models usually have longer barrels and will always have a forend cap secured by one screw on each side.



December 16, 2013, 07:50 AM
Thats great information Petah, does this apply to post 64 94s as well? I am looking to replace the sights with something more visible, my eyesight isn't what it used to be. It appears the front sight on my post 64 is not dovetail. Most of the aftermarket sights I am seeing say does not fit carbines. This is what leads me to believe it is a carbine since the front sight appears to be a challenge to get off.

December 16, 2013, 10:18 AM

I've never seen a post-64 M94 Standard Carbine with a front sight blade that wasn't in a dovetail - all are AFAIK mounted in either a sight ramp dovetail, or directly in a barrel dovetail.

OTOH, many Model 92's, like gennie Winchester Model 1892's & the recent Browning/Miroku's, are pinned to a square post that's soldered to the bbl.

I'd recommend a fiber-optic front sight like the Williams FireSight as solution to your sighting issue.

The rear bbl iron/open sight can also benefit from a replacment FO sight which typically has a FO dot on each side of the sighting notch; or remove it entirely & install a receiver peep sight.

http://www.williamsgunsight.com/gunsights/images/63331fp94seset.jpg http://www.williamsgunsight.com/gunsights/images/70217dovetailfiresightset.jpg



December 16, 2013, 11:13 AM
Thanks Petah, Maybe I should put my glasses on and look closer. I was looking for FO for both front and rear. I like the looks of that peep however. I may go that route.

December 20, 2013, 07:16 PM
Petah I have attached some pictures of my M94. I hope you can make it out but the front sight does not appear to be a dovetail. The rear sight also looks different than other M94s I have seen on line. Any idea how to mount a sight to this.

December 20, 2013, 07:26 PM
This is a better picture

Spartan Tactical
February 2, 2014, 06:01 PM
Hello everyone,
I'm hoping to have a few questions answered about a Model 94 which recently came into my shop.As the title says,I'm wondering if this rifle is worth restoring.
I think it's a 1906,but not sure.The serial number is 352331.It has an octogonal barrel and is of .32 W.S. caliber.The action could use some TLC and a reblueing,but the barrel would need to be replaced in order to be in fireing condition.The stock and foregrip could also use some TLC.
Thanks in advance for any help,
Spartan Tactical

February 2, 2014, 10:23 PM

DEKE - Your pic of the front sight is too out of focus for me to see clearly & answer your question. Your 2nd pic is focused perfectly, but it doesn't show the front sight under discussion.

Ron - Welcome to the forum! Even though it was made in 1906, it sounds like you have a shooter-grade Model 94 there, which wouldn't change much, no matter what you do to it, so restore it or not, & enjoy it.

It'll definitely be worth more, than if it got reblued. (pics might help)

I'm a little curious, though, as to why it needs a barrel, in order to be fired.


Spartan Tactical
February 3, 2014, 03:38 PM
I'll try to get pics up ASAP.The reason it needs to be rebarreled is that the fist 4 inches of the bore are completely ruined.It looks as though this rifle would have been muzzle down in a couple inches of water for quite a while.
Spartan Tactical

February 3, 2014, 06:02 PM

FWIW, the muzzle can be counterbored with a 3/8" drillbit, then the new/interior mozzle crowned - all to preserve the original bb's length & sights.


June 9, 2014, 11:19 AM
Hi all this my first post I have been reading all the great info but I am still at a loss. I am a trapper collector and I jst picked up my last need for my collection its 45lc the trapper is 94 AE w saddle ring.all looks right, but. The serial number I cant find it in any of the archives. there is no safety, and the serial number is on the side of the lever. I am stumped! Can someone help me out?

July 4, 2014, 01:24 PM
I inherited a lever action Winchester 94 in 30-30, octagonal 26" barrel, with serial number WC60842 (I've triple-checked this number on the rifle). I've looked at Winchester's lists of serial numbers and can't seem to find this one. Does anyone know year of manufacture? I'm completely stumped. Thanks very much.

July 4, 2014, 08:45 PM
My 2 cents' worth: restore it, or sell it to someone who wants to. I buy junked 1894s and restore them. After they are done, they look as close as you can get to a factory new rifle. You will wind up with $2000 in restoration costs, and have a rifle worth about $2000. That is, if it is restored by someone who knows what they are doing. If you are going to hand it over to someone who says they can refinish it and it will look "just like new", be very very skeptical.

September 11, 2014, 09:33 AM
I have a Winchester Model 1894, 32WS in serial number range 408xxx, my investigating tells me it was manufactured in 1907 some say 1908~~.
It has been in pieces for 25 years. I put it together and all the mechanical parts are fine. I can see a spiral inside the barrel and it is clean but I cannot detect any lands that could be rifling.
The reason that it took so long to put together is that the butt stock is badly damaged. I took to attempting a fix by filling in the missing parts with epoxy and I was somewhat successful, but..

I am all for historical accuracy and realise that original is the way to go but I notice some numbers “tattooed” (numbers made up of dots like nail pokes), anyway, the rifle S/N is 408xxx and the tattoo is 459xxx.
Suspicious, I would like to ask some of the experts if that tattooed # could mean to be the serial number, in which case the butt stock I have may not be the original original. Just a thought.

My fore stock is OK but if I was to get a new butt stock I was thinking I would get both so the rifle would look better.

September 12, 2014, 02:56 AM
Get a new stock set.

September 17, 2014, 03:39 PM
I will be in the SW USA for the winter and I will pick up some stock parts.
Here is a picture of the stock.

May 4, 2015, 07:13 PM
I just bought a Model 94 30-30 recently. I am trying to determine the year that it could have been MFG. #437****

Can someone help me??

May 5, 2015, 02:39 AM
Mid 1980s? Why are people so concerned about when their USRAC and AE 94s were made? Idle curiosity?

May 5, 2015, 02:00 PM
Mine is for general curiosity, This way I have a general idea of the age of the long guns that I own. The oldest I own is a 30-40 Krag which is 115 yrs old.

October 28, 2015, 11:22 AM
having trouble finding a date made
94 win. .30-30 27921xx.. guessing when i bought it '66
how close am I ?

October 29, 2015, 01:36 AM
94 win. .30-30 27921xx.. guessing when i bought it '66
how close am I ?


October 29, 2015, 09:18 AM
Thank You.. :)

May 30, 2016, 04:49 PM
Hi All!

First...let me take a moment to thank all of the Vets on this forum. We owe you everything...

My uncle past several years ago, leaving a large gun collection. Several family members received guns. I have two that I think someone might want. They have been sitting in my closet for years...and I think it's such a waste.

I was hoping you could help me identify a Winchester Model 94-30 WCF.
SN# 1496368.

I have searched the links included on these pages...but I can't find that serial number?

Can someone help?

As...can you tell me a reasonable price for it...and where's a good place to sell it. I would rate it Fair to Good condition, as the Left side of the stock have a groove in it.



I'm hoping someone can make good use of this rifle.



September 20, 2016, 10:42 AM
I was wondering if anyone could chim in I'm trying to figure a date on my model 94 , 3030. It's pretty pitted along serial number I can't tell if it's a 5 or 6 digit number .any other way to date it ? Thanks

September 21, 2016, 12:13 AM
The transition form 5 to 6 digits in the serial number occurred in 1897. If your rifle is that old, it is indeed a classic. If it were that old, it would probably have a crescent buttplate and a round barrel (that was called a "standard rifle"). It would not say 30-30 on it, it would be marked 30 WCF. It would not say Model 94 on it, it would be marked Model 1894 (since that's what it was called). Pictures of the rifle would tell the tale.

Your Model 94 is a post-WW2 transition model, made sometime after WW2 (shown by the new "post-war" tang design) but before the "official" beginning of production in 1949 at SN 1,500,001. All in all, it's in very nice condition. Value is probably around $600-ish