View Full Version : M1D marking ken is stumped and tired

July 15, 2008, 06:48 PM
OK, just took in an M1D...it is a 3,8XX, XXX , correct parts, rear sight and all SA, correct drawing number and ordnance wheel on upper part of SA 10/52 barrel, never refinished as we can see, M84 scope....10/52 MRT cheekpiece, cone flashider marked 1952...no import marks...and the barrel receiver is not a fake...

But the stock..
Has no cartouche.
Has the rifle serial number stamped in barrel channel
Has an "A" stamped on pistol grip where you usually see a "P"

Help me...what do I have here

WildineedbrainsAlaska ™

P5 Guy
July 15, 2008, 10:00 PM
3.8 million is late 44 or early 45 DOB. The 10-52 barrel is the date the barrel was made and most likely installed on the rifle when it was rebuilt for the Korean Conflict.
Does the stock show any sign that it was glass bedded?
Loosing the cartouche in normal during refinishing.
Numbering the stock would assure that it was kept with the rifle, that's why I asked about bedding.
Sloppy stamping or sanded off during refinishing?

July 16, 2008, 12:29 AM
Not bedded, GI original stock. Has been sanded, there appears to be a "U" in a circle stamped on the stock under the "A"

WildstumpedAlaska TM

July 16, 2008, 08:24 AM
Try asking here:


July 16, 2008, 12:10 PM
With all the experts here, I shouldnt have to register on another Board :)

WildcomeonguysAlaska ™

July 16, 2008, 12:18 PM
Help me...what do I have here

send it to me and i'll figure out for you.;)

James K
July 16, 2008, 02:32 PM
My thought is a replacement stock. The "P" (Prooved) was stamped on the rifle when it was made, it will not appear on a replacement stock, even one put on in the service.


July 16, 2008, 02:33 PM
What is that "A" though...thats what stumps me

WildhelphelphelpAlaska ™

Jim Watson
July 16, 2008, 04:51 PM
Has been sanded, there appears to be a "U" in a circle stamped on the stock under the "A"

I have never gotten interested in bragging or making money off the assorted markings on army surplus guns, and cannot tell you what all that stuff means, but the above does not sound good.

P5 Guy
July 16, 2008, 05:06 PM
Sorry Ken my dates are wrong. 3.8 million is mid to late 1945 for the receiver's manufacture date. And original parts will have following drawing numbers; bolt D28287-19SA, operating rod D35382-9SA, and three parts of the trigger, housing D28290-18SA, hammer C4600-9SA and the safety SA-11.
I'm sticking to it being a Korean War era rebuild. SA-11-52 Would be Nov 1952.
Almost all M1s are refurbed at the arsenals. The M84 scope is from that era too.All the above information is from Scott Duff's books. I hope that helps.

B. Lahey
July 16, 2008, 05:19 PM
A= Aberdeen Proving Ground?

Just a thought, I don't know for sure and have not found anything to support this.

July 16, 2008, 05:49 PM
OK, well I'm going to list it and see what pops out of the woodwork :)

WildthanksguysAlaska ™

July 16, 2008, 08:02 PM
The obvious answer is the A stands for Alaska.


Jim Watson
July 16, 2008, 08:52 PM
A= Aberdeen Proving Ground?

More likely Anniston Army Depot. Though I don't know for sure.

July 16, 2008, 10:11 PM
More likely Anniston Army Depot. Though I don't know for sure.

Anniston was AN IIRC

WildloseslettersAlaska TM

August 11, 2008, 05:14 PM
If you reeaaaally want to know, post your question here:


August 11, 2008, 07:34 PM
Maybe a PM to memeber eclancy would get you the info you need. As I recall, he is a Garand Guru.Worth a shot anyways.

And/or, maybe send an E-mail to The Garand Collectors Association. Based on all the details and research in thier magazine that I get for being a member, odds are goo they will be able to give you a correct answer. Thier email address is: [email protected]

B. Lahey
August 11, 2008, 08:47 PM
Wild started this thread a month ago so this rifle is probably long sold. If he had any new info I'm sure he would have brought this thread back from the dead on his own.