Oh no, win 140 problem

[johnwilliamson062]

Ok, so I just got this 140 have never shot it and was looking at it. I pulled the 'bolt assembly' back and can not get it to slide forward. I have checked every button I could think of and can not find a manual for it online. Winchester lists it as obsolete...

[ligonierbill]

Gave mine to my brother a couple years ago, but as I remember, it's on the bottom right in front of the loading gate. A somewhat maligned gun, but it always worked fine for me. Needed a 3" chamber, so I replaced it with an 11-87.

[johnwilliamson062]

Not it. Do not see anything to bottom right. Only directly in front which is the lock for loading I think. I can not push or move it in any direction at present.

[hogdogs]

Try pulling the trigger and slide it forward?
Pull the trigger and fully remove it and try to reinstall. May need trigger pulled to reinstall too.
Brent

[johnwilliamson062]

I just found a breakdown manual for this online. I am selling it. I am also going to look at a manual for any winchester before I buy it. You have to take out the trigger assembly to remove the bolt? Is this not as ludicrous as it seems to me?

[FALshootist]

There is nothing wrong with your gun and you don't have to remove the triggger assembly to make the bolt go forward.

Just push up the loading gate and slight push the magazine follower forward (as would be done if you were loading a shell into the mag) and the bolt will fly home. Later guns had a plastic piece attached there to release the bolt.

I've got a Ted Williams 300 (same gun as the 1400 with a VR pressed checkering etc.) I occasionally shoot trap with it. They actually work very well. I did a basic cleaning of the barrel and gas system when I bought it, then put about 500 rounds through it. I finally broke the whole gun down and removed the bolt for cleaning. It litterally had about 1/8 of an inch of hard caked grease on the top surface of the carrier and still worked fine.

[johnwilliamson062]

I got the carrier to slide forward. I just had to pull it all the way back before pushing the release switch. Never had a gun that required this before. A few semi-auto pistols where you had to pull back a little for the slide catch to release, but not all the way back. Makes no sense.

My problem is that to remove the bolt for cleaning I need to remove the trigger assembly. I have never had a gun that required this. The break down of this shotgun is just much more complicated than the 11-87 or any other gun I have taken apart. Selling it.