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SSGF109
March 30, 2008, 08:59 AM
GLOCK 21 Owners! Whats Your Opinion? OTHER THAN GRIP SIZE! We all know its for large hands. Thanks in advance! :D

Alleykat
March 30, 2008, 10:22 AM
I don't have really large hands; do own two G21s, with tens of thousands of rounds through them. The G21 is one of the softest-shooting, most user-friendly .45ACPs made. A lot of the hoopla about the size of the G21's (&G20's) grip is from people who are accustomed to thin 1911 grips. Just takes a little shooting to get acclimated to the wider grip. You'll find that the wide grip mitigates recoil pulse much better than a thinner grip. I own both 1911s and Glocks and now much prefer the fatter grips to the thinner grips.

BrthrB
March 30, 2008, 11:05 AM
I've got a realatively newer model, average size hands. The grip is larger than I was used to, however I didn't have any issues shooting it. I did do a grip reduction and have to say that I am more than pleased. One of my favorite pistols! Extremely realible and accurate enough for my needs. It is a little too large for me to comfortably carry concealed.

Dabull
March 30, 2008, 11:24 AM
Front strap is too squared off for my liking. I shoot my 1911 and Sig 220 far more than my G21.

gmoney
March 30, 2008, 11:39 AM
I've been considering one of the new G21sf models, the only thing that has really kept me from a Glock over the years is how everyone says the triggers take a lot of getting used to. What are we really talking about when we talk about the triggers on the Glock ?? I have never shot a Glock............

wjkuleck
March 30, 2008, 11:43 AM
I like it enough I've invested in about a dozen magazines for it :D .

Regards,

Walt

Dabull
March 30, 2008, 12:06 PM
What are we really talking about when we talk about the triggers on the Glock ??

My G21 has slack or travel before you get to the business end of the pull.

gmoney
March 30, 2008, 12:25 PM
I've also heard they have a very light trigger pull ( 3 lbs. ??). Which I actually like having a light trigger. As far as the slack goes, if that is all you are talking about, a lot of other handguns have some slack in the trigger pull.

Dabull
March 30, 2008, 12:52 PM
I've never tested the weight of the pull. Its not heavy. I just treat the Glock like a single action pistol and prefer my single actions without travel.

dave421
March 30, 2008, 12:59 PM
Glocks don't have a 3lb. trigger pull when stock. You'll see 3lb. trigger, NY1 triggers, NY2 triggers etc. but they all result in a different pull depending on what other parts are in the gun. Most stock Glocks are going to be 5.5-7 lbs.

As for the trigger, it stacks. There's no crisp break so it's somewhat vague (not badly though). Pre-travel & ovetravel isn't really that bad compared to most other similar pistols. For example, my XD has a bit more travel (fore & aft), trigger pull around the same weight, but has breaks more crisply without the stacking. I personally prefer the XD trigger but I have no problems shooting a Glock & often shoot a friend's 21 (actually had a 26 for a while as I prefer the Glock SCs to the XD SCs). Even when I was shooting SA-only & DA/SA I didn't have any problems adjusting to the Glock's trigger.

As for the 21. It's a great gun. I don't own one but I've put over 1k rounds through a few of them (local PDs issue them and I have a lot of LE friends). Very accurate. Recoil is nice. Basically another boring Glock (that's a good thing). I do NOT like the grip but, again, it doesn't prevent me from having fun with the gun or shooting good groups. The SF feels much better to me but I've not had a chance to shoot one.

XD45Sooner
March 30, 2008, 01:23 PM
I think the opposite of Dave when it comes to the triggers. My XD trigger does not break as crisp as my glock trigger. There is alot of creep, even when you get to the point where the trigger is going to release the firing pin. My glock trigger breaks very crisp, although it is alot heavier of a pull once you get it to the breaking point. I dont think either of them stack up really...

127gr+p+
March 30, 2008, 01:45 PM
If I ever buy another Glock, Itll probably be the 21sf with pic rail.

Alleykat
March 30, 2008, 03:04 PM
Glock trigger pull weights are easy to change by the consumer. Anybody who shoots Glocks much probably knows how to shoot from the trigger reset position. I use aftermarket 3.5# connectors in all my Glocks...prefer the Scherer and LWD, but the Ghost Ultimate is pretty decent, too. I polish all the metal-to-metal mating surfaces of the firing mechanisms.

My Glocks' triggers pull from just over 3# to just under 4#.

SSGF109
April 1, 2008, 07:01 PM
Thats one thing nice about GLOCKS, you can change out the trigger pulls with after market parts.
They come standard 5.5lbs and you can turn them into comp guns by putting in a 3.5 lb connector.

allenomics
April 1, 2008, 08:22 PM
Unless you have very large hands, I'd buy the G21SF. The one I use is easy to handle and accurate.

ragwd
April 1, 2008, 08:23 PM
Just bought the 21 sf a few weeks back, so I guess it's a different kind of animal. The 21sf fit well in my hand and points well. Only have a 200 rounds through so far, so I can't say much except pleasantly surprised at the accuracy.

thinktwice
April 1, 2008, 08:57 PM
The G 21 was my first Glock. Great weapon!!

big_ed
April 1, 2008, 09:20 PM
I wanted a G21 for years, but stayed away due to the LARGE grip.
I now have two of the G21-SF, the more I shoot them, the more I like them.
If I had it to do over I would have stayed away from the pic rail version, its tough to find holsters to easily accomidate the rail. Bladetech did eventually solve this problem though.

bub75
April 2, 2008, 05:11 PM
I've had one since '92 or '93, serial number is AEVxxx. It's got >30,000 rds through it and is still running strong. The only malfs I've ever had with it have been either ammo related (it doesn't like SWC bullets) or mag problems (I recently had a couple mag-related malfs, the original mag springs are finally weakening). I'm using it as my duty weapon and have since I got it, except for a brief flirtation with a .40 G23.

Myself, I LOVE this weapon. I have large hands so it fits me well. I shoot it well and know it inside and out. Except for a Hogue HandAll, it's still bone-stock and will stay that way. I let some guys from the PD shoot it last fall at fall qualifications when we had some time to kill waiting for it to get dark and some of them are regretting buying their .40 Glocks a few years ago, saying if they knew how the G21 shoots and handles they would have bought G21s instead of the G22s they had bought. If you have large hands and can shoot it well, I don't think you can do any better for a general-purpose or duty weapon than a G21! The only thing I would give it up for is a Govt Model but we're not allowed to carry SA autos.

Bub

amprecon
April 2, 2008, 09:41 PM
The Glock 21 was my first semi-automatic pistol which I bought around 1990, I still own one and I love it.

SSGF109
April 3, 2008, 04:03 PM
Other than grip size 95 % of G21 owners love'em

SSGF109
April 4, 2008, 07:27 PM
Glock has lost out by not having a G21 Longslide version.

azredhawk44
April 4, 2008, 07:31 PM
I had one; it was my first gun.

I sold it after six or seven years' use and about 10K rounds, used the money to buy a Marlin Camp 45 to pair up with my Sig GSR 1911.

I don't think I care for striker-fired autos at all. I have an XD that I'm considering getting rid of as well; it fits the hand better than the Glock, but that spongey trigger of a striker-gun just ain't nice. Probably find myself a nice single action only CZ-75 or Browning High Power variant.