View Full Version : HELP! to Dismantle Winchester Mod 1897

Wolf Lies Down
October 2, 2007, 07:48 PM
-I am "moving" this post from the Shotgun Forum over to the Smithy forum because I think it belongs here, instead.

I recently picked up a take-down 12 gauge "C" series WinMod97 and have been dismantling it and cleaning it up.

The original S/N has worn off the gun frame, but I thought the S/N was also stamped somewhere else on the gun. So far, I haven't found it.

The Action Slide markings ( MODEL 1897 -WINCHESTER- Trade Mark ), according to one account I read, places the Mfg. date for this gun in 1905 or 1906, but I don't know. Can anyone confirm this?

Also, can the Receiver Shank (the round, threaded steel rod coming out of the rear of the Receiver that the buttstock slips over and is bolted onto) be removed from the back of the Receiver without using a hydraulic press?

I don't know if the Receiver Shank is threaded into the Receiver or pressed in. I have been unable to make the thing move with reasonable pressure and don't want to apply terminal force.

Regards, and Thanx! in advance for any help and advice you can offer.

Wolf Lies Down

October 2, 2007, 08:18 PM
It appears to be threaded in this illustration


James K
October 2, 2007, 08:47 PM
It screws out, but none of the manuals show it removed, and there is a good reason for that. It is extremely tight and an attempt to remove it can bend it or worse damage the receiver. I strongly urge you to leave it alone. Removal is NOT required for disassembly or cleaning of the gun or for removal of the buttstock.


October 2, 2007, 09:12 PM
There's no normal reason to remove the stock stud. For disassembly try this. http://www.marauder.homestead.com/files/Model97down.html

Wolf Lies Down
October 4, 2007, 09:20 PM
Jim and Hawg,

Thank you for the advice. I have never seen a nastier gun than this Win97. Every single part in the thing is covered with caked-on, burned-on crud.

I've soaked the major assemblies twice and sprayed them down with a good penetrant and they still need work. It's fun though.

I'll leave the shank in the receiver as you suggest.

Wolf Lies Down

James K
October 4, 2007, 10:18 PM
I don't know what you are using, but for real crud I prefer G96 Gun Treatment, then a stainless steel "toothbrush".