View Full Version : ultimate ccw 1911?

September 10, 2007, 05:27 PM
Well i was surfing the net,and came across a photo & website,with what IMO looks to be the smallest 1911 i've ever seen.....
my question is ,is this thing a wet dream or what?:D j/k. all jokes aside has anyone had any experience with this company?they also do custom sigs too,
http://www.tjscustomgunworks.com/ if so can we get a range report?I think a .45 acp that rivals the size of a dollar bill is very interisting to say the least!:cool:

September 10, 2007, 05:41 PM
And when you're out of ammo you can use it as metallic knuckles, too... lol

September 10, 2007, 06:39 PM
I think the draw would take some getting used to.

Some folks whine and carry on regarding finger grooves, let alone rings.

September 10, 2007, 06:42 PM
Uh yeah... and let's see many average folks get much quality range time with that thing. Guess it's true- somebody will make anything for anybody. I'll pass.

Double Naught Spy
September 10, 2007, 08:32 PM
Ultimate CCW 1911? I guess if your only concern was carrying the gun and not how many rounds it held, getting a quick grip, or how well you could fire it (including followup shots), then maybe so. Otherwise, it seems like it may be paired down too far such that it borders on or crosses the line for being as effectively wielded.

From the site...

Stealth-3 Custom TJ Cut Down 4+1 .45, Based on the Balaster Molina .45
Until the AMT D.A. .45 was the Smallest .45 Auto for Years !
Fully "Melted" (Sharp Edges Rounded) - Black Teflon Plated - Cocobolo Grips
Custom Finger Rings Added For Postitive Grip When Running Or In Combat.
Cut Down Guns Have MIDDLE Sections Removed, NOT Just Cut Off Ends.

I dont' recall Balaster Molina 1911s as being all that great, but maybe I am in error.

I really liked the comment that cut down guns have the middle sections removed, not just the ends cut off. So apparently the guns are sawed into parts, mid sections removed, and then welded back together? That would be pretty neat, but I have to wonder how well that will work out over the long haul. Maybe you really aren't supposed to shoot the little guns?

September 11, 2007, 12:12 AM
"I dont' recall Balaster Molina 1911s as being all that great, but maybe I am in error."

My Ballester-Molina is a great shooting handgun. I have $500 in my B-M and it will shoot rings around most $500 1911s. Regards, Richard:D

My Ballester-Molina:

September 11, 2007, 01:27 AM
Look on the bright side. You could conceal it in an empty cigarette pack. As for recoil...:eek:

The Tourist
September 11, 2007, 01:39 AM
Oh, I don't know. I'd love to have an Semmerling LM-4.

September 12, 2007, 09:51 AM
I've always had the wants for a Balaster Molina- but all of them that have shown up around here (that I've ran across) have been in really poor shape. Still keepin my eye out for one that could show promise as a re-finisher though.

Double Naught Spy
September 12, 2007, 05:44 PM
I have $500 in my B-M and it will shoot rings around most $500 1911s.

That is what I thought. The notion of paying big bucks for a highly customized gun made from very inexpensive stock is not a recipe for getting a well made gun.

September 12, 2007, 06:44 PM
I can't imagine the recoil that gun may have.. brutal.. :eek:

September 12, 2007, 06:49 PM
the ultimate 1911 45 ACP tailor made for CCW

September 12, 2007, 06:51 PM
Ballester-Molina for $500 awsome deal....the tiny one makes me wonder. 3 shot? 4 with one in the pipe? yikes!! My smallest revolver holds 5 357 and now I have one just slightly bigger that holds 7 rounds.

September 12, 2007, 07:08 PM
I think I remember seeing that pistol in one of the gun magazines about 15 years ago. The ring under the trigger guard was so you can keep your finger on the grip and not slip off during recoil.

Officer's Match
September 12, 2007, 11:22 PM

September 13, 2007, 01:11 AM
The Colt New Agent is a great concealed carry pistol in .45 ACP.

September 13, 2007, 02:50 AM
My Kimber RCP

September 13, 2007, 07:44 AM
ROFL! Red velvet? Hundred dollar bills?

Where does this ad appear- The Pimp Journal?


Not much hand surface for control.

And what exactly are you going to do with a 3-round magazine? I don't see this being much more than a novelty, or at best perhaps an ankle back-up. It's kind of cool to look at, but I don't see it being a good self defense weapon.

September 17, 2007, 07:25 PM
That is not the smallest true .45 auto ever created, there is one smaller. The Semmerling LMX. Originally contracted for Army special Ops the LMX was thought for many years to be a myth. The simple fact is that they were designed and completely hand built by the same genius that created the Semmerling LM4. The firearm, along with a complete (and astonishing!) collection of Semmerlings was gifted to the National Firearms museum just a year ago. Those that visit the museum will be able to see an LMX.

The firearm uses the incredibly rare "strip forward" methode to cycle rounds. The friction of the bullet traveling down the barrel actually cycles the slide (returned to battery through an ingenius spring system). The LMX also has a threaded barrel (and required slide lock for absolutely silent shots) for those silent ops times. All this and its the same size as the LM4. The contract was fullfiled and the gun is one of America's rarest and most unusual .45s.

Lastly, the designer always knew that the LM4 could have been originally designed as an auto loader. But there were two important reasons why he chose not to make the Semmerling LM4 an auto loader. First, the Semmerling LM4 was designed as a back-up weapon solely. As most operatives would instinctively know, most back-up situations are when one is looking down the barrel of their own weapon and those kind of conflicts rarely lasted past a single shot. The task is to make that shot 100% fail safe and deadly. Many confuse a back-up weapon with a primary. Secondly, being a superb engineed, he knew that the resulting kick from firing a .45 with such small mass would be just what it turned out to be...a real eye opener! Still, the Army wanted the smalles automatic loader .45acp they could have for their suppressors....they got it. Yes, its a double action too!

Enjoy the picture.

September 24, 2007, 10:30 AM
I think that this would be difficult to hold, sight, fire and control.

281 Quad Cam
September 24, 2007, 11:18 AM
Great picture!

But more realistically you could look into Para-Ordnance's Warthog.

September 24, 2007, 12:02 PM
hey if I needed a gun in a situation where I didn't have a normal one avail, I would for sure be more than willing to remember this lil guy and use it..that is if I could remember I placed it under my hat;)

September 24, 2007, 12:04 PM
:pWhat 281 said! I have a Warthog and it is light weight, very concealable, very reliable and as accurate as any 3"er out there. Oh by the way, 10 round mags. I carry it when dress doesn't allow my Glock 30.:p

September 24, 2007, 03:09 PM
My girlfriend likes it...but then she has the hands of a five year old.