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TheShootist1894
June 30, 2007, 04:31 PM
Note: this is a post in response to the poll I posted in The Hunt 'Best Mid-range Round'
And due to overwhelming assistance in choosing, The 243 came out on top
I am looking for a nice 243 rifle, not necisarly a boltgun but thats more likely in this caliber.
1) It has to be a good looking gun that will retain if not gain value in the future PS I love love love full length stocks. . .
2) It has to be accurate enough to hit a coffe can sized target consistantly at 200+ Yards, I'm not much of a long long range shooter, I like to hunt/practice at more practical ranges. .
3) Has to fit into my budget, lets put the cap around $650
4) Preferably has open sights for deer hunting in cover of underbrush and a shorter barrel 23" + -
5) Is not an anchor, lets try to keep the weight under 7.5 lbs + -

I love the looks of both the Ruger 77 RSI and the CZ 550 FS, CZ has a much nicer set trigger, but I like the Ruger action better
I also like the BDL (overpopulated) and the Ruger 77 compact and frontier

Any suggestions welcome, probably won't purchase until Deer season is closer and summer savings are up, lots of time to decide. . .
Thanks
KGB

Jimro
June 30, 2007, 04:36 PM
My vote would be for the CZ over the Ruger. Both the Ruger and CZ action are updated m98 actions with integral scope mounts. I don't see why, from a features standpoint, why either action is prefferable to the other. CZ's have better triggers and generally better barrels.

Jimro

Gustavo
June 30, 2007, 06:41 PM
Both the Ruger and the CZ are tough, excellent rifles.

However since I'm partial to an all-weather construction my vote goes to the Ruger, that also has a 3-pos frame mounted safety which I like them most.

Anyway, either choice will give you an excellent rifle.

fisherman66
June 30, 2007, 07:37 PM
I got to handle a M77 RSI tang safety not too long ago. I ended up going with the #1 RSI instead, but the M77 kept wanting to follow me home.

T. O'Heir
June 30, 2007, 11:28 PM
Any one of 'em will do nicely. $650 is light for a rifle and scope. Although the Savage 'package' Model 10GXP3's(1 in 9.25") MSRP is $584 or $607, depending on the barrel length. Good rifle, reasonable scope. Savage rifles are known for having the best out of the box accuracy.
Pay close attention to the rifling twist no matter what you buy. The .243 needs a fast twist for deer weight bullets. 85 grains and up.
The Ruger M77 MSRP is $749, twist is 1 in 10.
The CZ 550 FS is $791 MSRP and has a 1 in 10 twist.
Buy it as soon as you can though. You'll need to find the ammo it likes or work up a load and get it sighted in. Deer season isn't that far off.

Scorch
July 1, 2007, 12:29 AM
Either would be a good choice, but I prefer to buy American, so the Ruger gets my vote. It is a good rifle and will serve you well for many years.

Fremmer
July 1, 2007, 12:47 AM
Either the Remington BDL or CDL. Remington makes a good gun.

(overpopulated)

People wouldn't buy 'em so much if they didnt' shoot so darn well. :cool:

essexcounty
July 1, 2007, 11:00 AM
I haven't had fantistic luck with M77's, but I'll admit it's been a while since I've bought one. After three CZ's that have all been stellar, They would get my money without a question. What the Ruger does have though is good looks, however that's not enough to sway me..........Essex

Texas_XD
July 1, 2007, 11:17 AM
I'd have to say Ruger myself. If you hunt about on the net some, you can still find the older versions (pre-Hawkeye model) for REAL good prices, like $375-$450 mark NIB. Ruger would benefit from a trigger job and a 'Smith that knows them can get it down in an hour for around $30. My 30-06 took 15 minutes and cost me $10 locally, now it's crisp clean and breaks at 3lbs.
2nd choice, even thouh not listed, would be a Stevens 200. I have one in 7mm-08 w/ Nikon ProStaff scope and only have about $500 total in it. So far I've really enjoyed it and its pretty accurate at @ 100 yds, producing 3/4" groups with Hornady fodder. Leaves enough left over to take the wife to a nice supper.. ;)

BusGunner007
July 1, 2007, 11:33 AM
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=74726863
Browning BAR Lightweight Stalker, Caliber 243win, 20" Barrel, With Open Sights, Adjustable Rear Sight, 4 Round Detachable Magazine, NEW IN BOX WITH ALL FACTORY PAPERS.

http://nas4.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/074726000/74726863/pix929182281.jpg

http://nas4.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/074726000/74726863/pix929182250.jpg

Maybe one of the Redfield LoPro 2-7 Widefield scopes on that for a nice, compact, soft shooting and accurate package...:)

FirstFreedom
July 1, 2007, 11:49 AM
I like Busgunner's choice, though a little over budget, as he said.

In addition, though also a little over budget, but lighter, here's another excellent Browning choice:

http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=003B&cat_id=034&type_id=012

That will be *my* next .243 (and I already have two in that caliber).

That's the takedown one - but I think all of these are available in .243:

http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/category.asp?value=003B

I think that, now you have chosen your caliber (good choice), you should next decide whether you want a turnbolt, semi-auto, lever, pump, or single shot. Once you've narrowed that down, it will be easier to make a recommendation. Of course, the turnbolt is the consummate hunting & precision action type, because it offers the best overall balance of:

-Accuracy
-Strength/Safety
-Speed in re-chambering
-Reliability in feeding & extraction
-Light weight
-Capacity

There's good reason why turnbolts are so popular.

I'd suggest strongly looking at the outstanding Remington model Seven as well, if you can find a used one within your budget:

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_seven/model_seven_CDL.asp

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_seven/model_seven_CDL_specs.asp

The CZ550 is also a beautiful, well-made, accurate rifle. I have one and plan on getting another:

http://www.cz-usa.com/products_bigbore_rifles.php

44 AMP
July 1, 2007, 02:52 PM
You should consider buying American made. Not just American imported.

Ruger, Remington (700 models), and Savage. Winchester Model 70s are also fine guns, if currently out of production.

If you are not fixated on a new rifle, used guns can be found at reasonable prices, can be more than accurate enough, and you have a large variety of models to choose from.

My .243 is a Remington Mohawk 600 carbine. American made, shoots better than I do, maybe not the prettiest one in the rack, but light, handy, and effective in the field. Also long out of production, about 30 years or so.

Check out the used guns. You can get a lemon, it does happen, but you can also get a good quality rifle for about 2/3 to even a half of what a new one costs. Many already have a scope included in the price. The trick is, you have to know what you are looking at. Check the muzzle for damage, check the barrel (throat should be as shiny as the rest of the barrel). If the barrel is sound, you are off to a good start. Stock dings only matter to you, not to the rifle's ability to shoot. But they can lower the asking price. And they can give you something to do during the winter, refinishing it!:p

wolverine350
July 1, 2007, 04:58 PM
I have not shot a more accurate gun than the Savage, the accu trigger makes it so sweet

Lignite
July 2, 2007, 02:13 PM
I am a true fan of the Browning BLR, however the made in America comments are important as well, in my opinion.