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Desert01
June 7, 2007, 05:08 AM
I'm doing a Savage rifle build right now and am attempting to select the barrel for it. Objective is a 26" .300 WM Heavy barrel for long range paper punching, light "tac" training, ect:

What i have looked at:

E.R. Shaw, which has been recommended to me
HART, which is only an hour away
Douglus, from Savage Shooter

I am also looking at adding the Vais Arms brake or similure. I will have to deal with some printing perhaps, but I'm not worried about return fire these days. I'm looking at the Vais because I don't have to index it and the barrel like I would some of the other brakes.

Any experiances/preferances?

Old Time Hunter
June 7, 2007, 07:19 AM
Krieger Barrels *****!!!

Jim Watson
June 7, 2007, 07:28 AM
I have no experience with .300 Magnum and NRA won't let me use a muzzle brake in F-class competition. I DO have a Savage .308 that I have gradually transmogrified.

It has a 28" Pac-Nor barrel, the longest they offer without a per-inch surcharge. It came profiled, chambered, and threaded; installation was a DIY with headspace gauge and wrenches.

The friend who got me into Long Range shooting has Douglas and Hart barrels on very accurate target rifles, so you cannot go wrong with them.

Douglas has the advantage of being available ready to go from SSS.
Hart and most others, like the very accurate Krieger on my weird little Long Range AR would have to be gunsmithed.

I don't know anybody shooting a Shaw, except one guy with one on a hunting rifle, where it is better than what Ruger provided.

shooter_john
June 7, 2007, 08:51 AM
I just built a Savage in 6.5x47 Lapua using a Shilen barrel, but I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. Will report back when I do!

Desert01
June 7, 2007, 10:03 AM
Jim,

I forgot Pac-Nor, I have a call in now.

Thanks

Desert01
June 7, 2007, 10:11 AM
Nice to see the Shilien comment is much the same has Sharp Shooter Supply:
"With the capabilities of the Savage design you can easily interchange barrels, bolt heads and stocks to have one rifle to fit almost every shooting need you may have."

Shilien:
"Savage Drop-ins.
For years shooters have enjoyed the flexibility of the Savage Shooting System.
The ability to have one gun that is capable of having multiple caliber barrels each having its specific purpose has always been desired by shooters. Combine the design of this action with the accuracy of a Shilen Barrel and the combination will be lethal, (to the target that is).
"
With their drop in #8 barrel.....
http://www.shilen.com/savageBarrels.html

Scorch
June 7, 2007, 12:37 PM
You want a good barrel for shooting match, and all barrels are not created equal. If my ranking of barrels were considered important, they would be ranked like this-
1- Krieger- because they take more care in making barrels than people take in diapering new babies. Every Krieger barrel I have ever seen was an exceptional shooter.
2- Hart- because it is one of the finest I have ever had, and they shoot.
3- Pac-Nor, because they are reasonably priced and everyone who owns one claims they are outstanding shooters. I have not owned one, but plan to rebarrel a rifle this fall and I may use one of their barrels.
4- Douglas or Shilen- they are about the same, both are produced the same way with the same materials. I have owned and shot some of each. Good barrels, but not exceptional.
5- ER Shaw- great hunting barrels, but not match barrels. I used to send actions to ER Shaw to have them installed on rifles that were stricly hunting guns and the owners did not want to spend lots of money on.
5- Apex- cheap, OK for a hunting rifle, but not for match.
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99- Adam & Bennett- Cheap barrels, save your money.

I do not rank Lapua and MacMillan barrels, because their barrels are obviously exceptional quality, but the lead time to get one is so long that you would have forgotten you ever owned the rifle by the time you get it back.

With that in mind, make your choice.

FirstFreedom
June 7, 2007, 04:57 PM
No one's gonna top that knowledge from Scorch. 'Nuff said. :)

Glennster
June 7, 2007, 07:26 PM
i did this with a Krieger Barrel and a Vais Brake. i shot a 3 1/2" group at 500 yds. i'll do better on a calmer day.

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Ken O
June 7, 2007, 08:00 PM
I don't have experience with you caliber, but when I built my 1000 yard match rifle in .260 Rem using a Savage, I chose PacNor. They will configure it any way you want for profile, lands, length etc. When you get it, it is ready to drop in and install yourself, no gunsmithing needed. Just pick up the go/no go gauges and the Savage barrel wrench, and your ready to go.

fisherman66
June 7, 2007, 08:05 PM
I haven't done a rebarrel, but I have an ex-competitive friend that speaks highly of Krieger 5R barrels.

Desert01
June 7, 2007, 08:53 PM
Thanks Scorch,
I think I'm going to work with one of these,

Douglas
Pac-Nor
Shilen

Probably the Douglas from Sharpshooter, with his Vias like Brake. I need to talk to Pac-Nor again though.

Glennster good shooting.

Glennster
June 7, 2007, 10:12 PM
Thank you !

Desert01
June 9, 2007, 08:49 AM
Thanks for the input! I'm going to go with the Pac-Nor and their threaded Vais Like Brake. About 12 weeks to get the barrel:( This will end up as a fall project.

I'm looking at their Polygonal rifled barrel. Anyone use one before?