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chris in va
June 3, 2007, 02:02 AM
My friend came to visit and brought along his 10 year old nephew for a range trip. As I don't have a 22 rifle, I though it a good idea to pick one up at WalMart:barf: to help the kid out.

Looked like a decent little rifle...small, light, handy. Decent sights similar to my CZ. Good first time gun and all.

First came the form fill-out. Now I don't understand why they have different forms at the 'Mart vs a gun store or gunshow, but whatever. My CCW permit wasn't 'valid' due to having my previous address on it, so driver's license and registration. They also asked for a daytime phone number.:confused:

I'm patient up to this point. The clerk had to call in a supervisor for 'firearms escort' as usual. But instead she was actually in TRAINING and proceeded to make my purchase an exercise, plodding through all my friggin answers on the two forms! All told it took over an hour.

So back to the gun. The thing is absolute junk. It jammed on everything I had...CCI, Federal, Rem's. Double feeds, no feeds, stovepipes, you name it. Someone at the range had some CLP and hosed down the action but didn't help any.

MalWart has a NO RETURN policy on firearms. It has to be broght back to the store for repair by the manufacturer, which I did. The guy said only the store manager can override the rule, so if it still does this BS when I get it back, I'm having a chat with the guy.

And yes...that's what I get for shopping WalMart.:mad:

wolverine350
June 3, 2007, 07:11 AM
welcome to mossberg junksters (plinksters)

fixboot
June 3, 2007, 07:26 AM
I'm sorry to hear about your crappy experiance.......lucky for me mine was a great shooter. I think it jammed once or twice in the many many bricks I put thru it. Damn thing was more accurate out of the box than my 10/22 was!


Meh, its not worth it to try and fix it.......I say use it as trade in credit at a pawnshop for a nice 10/22.

srtrax
June 3, 2007, 09:38 AM
Not Mossberg related, but is wal mart related. A few years back a customer came to the shop and wanted a Browning shotgun for him and his son, around x-mas time, not enough time left for me to order and have them on x-mas eve. Came back next day and said he found 2 at an out of town wallyworld, should he get it? I didnt want to miss a sell but told him i see no problem buying from w.m., somewhat cheaper than i could sell em for. Long story short, after buying the guns and going through the warranty papers found a repair slip left in the box.Factory repair or factory 2nd? Thats wally for ya! We neeed our smaller gun shops back, and i hope the mfgs, figure this out before its to late, support your local shops as much as you can!

treg
June 3, 2007, 10:11 AM
A friend of mine bought a 10/22 from Wally World with substantial evidence of it being a second or a return which was repaired.

Titus
June 3, 2007, 10:33 AM
So Walmart's the bad guy because they wouldn't accept ID with incorrect information on it, reviewed the information on the forms, are sending the rifle back to the manufacturer for repair, and their "no return" policy actually means "must be approved by a manager"? Maybe they made the gun themselves too, that must be why it doesn't work. They're doing exactly what the average gun shop would do.

FirstFreedom
June 3, 2007, 11:11 AM
Sorry to hear of that for you; hope they fix it. Wonder how many lemons they are allowing to get through, since fixboot's experience is contra?

srtrax
June 3, 2007, 01:00 PM
WOOPS, steped on a managers toes....Nothing wrong with making paper work in perfect order, and better be, and yes, wally is not even close to being average. How many times have i seen the: these scope bases will fit anything. Your average gunshop isnt selling tires and such, so he has to back everything they sell, and has a smith in his back pocket or one on the place. No repair slips in the guns that came to my shop, a new gun was a new gun, and better work as new! (had no returns)

Titus
June 3, 2007, 03:10 PM
WOOPS, stepped on a gun shop's toes... Tell me what they're doing with his purchase that the average gun shop wouldn't, unless they had a gunsmith in house, which I see less and less of these days. Do you actually know if it was a factory repair or a second? Do you have more than one instance to cite? Where do Walmart's guns come from? The couple of times I've bought guns at Walmart, they definitely weren't like the average gun shop in that they had good prices, friendly service, and even remembered me later, which meant they didn't tell me what a piece of junk some gun was that I had bought from them earlier. :)

JoeLee
June 3, 2007, 03:14 PM
Pay for junk get junk don't cry.

bcrash15
June 3, 2007, 03:23 PM
I have not been in a wal-mart in a few years now that actually still carries firearms in store. One by one the firearms racks were filled with other things.

Average Joe
June 4, 2007, 07:53 PM
Walmart didn't make the gun, Mossberg did, you should have bought the Ruger.

chris in va
June 5, 2007, 01:37 AM
They're doing exactly what the average gun shop would do.

No, I disagree...at least all the gun stores I've been to.

dionysusigma
June 5, 2007, 03:33 AM
Pay for junk get junk don't cry.
How supportive. :rolleyes:

ceetee
June 5, 2007, 07:49 AM
They're doing exactly what the average gun shop would do.

No, the average gunshop would have charged 50% more than MSRP, and insulted your intellegence for wanting to buy such a piece of junk in the first place while simultaneously maintaining that they only stock the finest guns in their shop. Then, when you brought it back to them for repair, they would have insulted you some more for buying such a piece of junk in the first place, while reluctantly accepting it for return to the factory. After logging the gun in for return, they would have put it up in a high shelf somewhere and forgot about actually returning it until it happened to fall off the shelf and pegged an employee in the noggin...

HarryB
June 5, 2007, 08:07 AM
Ten years or so I bought I Smith and Wesson 457 from Arizona Sportsman in Mesa AZ. Went down the street to Caswell's indoor range to wring it out. It failed to feed consistently even with FMJ and different mags that the range let me borrow to diagnose the problem. I returned to the gunstore less than 2 hours after the sale and explained the situation and wanted an exchange. The replay was sorry, all we can do is ship it in for repair at my expense.

What happens to the guns that gun stores exchange? Most likely get a scrubbing and put right back on the shelf...

Smitty in CT
June 5, 2007, 09:56 AM
I bought two of the 702 semi-auto Plinksters before Christmas for my kids last year at Dick's. They have been great little guns, well over 5,000 round through them by now, sorry to hear you had trouble.

Call Mossberg and tell them you want them to pay for return shipping...they'll probably just replace the gun.

Let us know how you make out with the Mossberg's customer service, I have heard mostly good things about them.

chris in va
June 7, 2007, 12:24 AM
If the Plinkster still has problems I'm getting the 10/22. Fondled the carbine version at the store today and was pleasantly suprised how light and ergonomic it is.

rantingredneck
June 7, 2007, 12:31 AM
I've never shot the Mossberg so I can't comment there, but if you decide to trade don't overlook the Marlin 60. I've got one and a stock 10/22. The Marlin is more accurate. Both are great guns though.

chris in va
June 7, 2007, 12:39 AM
I actually had a Marlin 60 a few years ago. The tube feed was pretty slick and all, but the thing jammed horribly and I sold it.

rantingredneck
June 7, 2007, 12:45 AM
I guess like anything there are lemons. I've had mine now for 24 years and the only problem I have is it doesn't like CCI Stingers. Any other ammo I've tried works fine. You won't be disappointed with a 10/22 if you go that route either.

Yithian
June 7, 2007, 04:57 AM
I don't want to seem argumentative but, I work at Walmart.
I sell long-guns at Walmart.

Walmart sells what manufacturers make.
If it is a Browning, we sell a Browning. Not a Chinese Browning.
(Actually Japanese, ...as all but the custom Browning's are.)

If you come into my store, we have re-sold guns that have left our store before, but we sell them as USED, fired or not.
If you don't ask to look over the merchandise before you buy it, don't blame anyone else. We gladly put trigger locks on them so buyers can view them to their hearts content, IN HAND.

The best part is, I sell new long-guns at prices well below any other store.
Then, I get my 10% discount if I want one.

If anyone is interested in a firearm, check your Walmart to see if they still sell firearms.
We sell Browning's to Winchester's, CZ's to Tikka's and Thompson Center's.

If you come by my store, I will tell you which firearms I wouldn't buy and why.
Everyone at my store is the same way.

Here is some basics to avoid IMO...

Don't buy a Remington 710 unless you plan on it wearing out very quick.
The inside of the receiver is made of plastic and the bolt can fall out too easily.

Charles Daly shotguns had a problem a few years ago. They wouldn't feed.
They have supposedly fixed the issue. Only one C.D. that we sent for repair had to be resent. All we sold are fine now to our knowledge.

If you want a Henry Golden Boy and it has any issues, please have a gunsmith work on it.
The Henry repair shop seems to not care if they scratch up that beautiful finish they originally put on it. They usually come back very badly scared.

Sorry you bought a Plinkster.
It, and the Remington 597, have had high percentages of what we consider bad luck. They either feed wrong or jam, ...often.


Walmart does have the benefit that no other dealer around here will consider.
If you have a problem with your firearm, we will send it for repair for you.
Bring the reciept to the store you bought it at. Meet a manager at the doors.
Thats it.
No shipping costs. And, if its still under warantee, no repair costs.
If you bring it back with its original box, it is even faster. Walmart can't send a repair without a box. If you dont bring it, we have to order one before we can send it.
Another advantage most don't think about... Keeping the original box can increase the value of the gun.

srtrax
June 7, 2007, 10:35 AM
The problems i talked about happened several years ago, the customer had to do all the leg work himself. (I dont want to sound argumentive, but i have a bad habbit of being that way at times :o). Sounds like a mart that is above and beyond most i have been in. YITHIAN, thank for your input! Maybe times have changed.

chris in va
June 7, 2007, 12:53 PM
Oh, I failed to mention the moron left the store gun lock on. It took 20 minutes of sawing away at the thing with my serrated knife before we could even start loading the mags at the range. It's a miracle of muscle control that the trigger guard didn't get all cut up in the process.

So you can understand my frustration.

And I don't buy that 'send in for repair' crap. It was a defective product like half the stuff WalMart sells now. I wanted an exchange or refund, not wait another 2 weeks to a month for a 'repaired' firearm. They can do that mess their OWN time.:mad:

Smitty in CT
June 7, 2007, 02:56 PM
Chris,

Wait and see what comes back....

There were problems with the 702 Plinkster when it 1st came out a few years ago and from what I hear Wal-Mart bought a ton of them....

From my own experience and hearing from other people, Mossberg seems to have fixed the problems with the early ones......

But......since Walmart went from selling guns in 5,000 stores down to selling them in about 1,000 stores, there are probably still a bunch of these "old" Plinsters still sitting in a Wal-Mart warehouse somewhere just waiting to break (or not work at all) for some unsuspecting person. I don't think it's 100% Wal-Mart's fault, Mossberg should and hopefully will make it right.

Hopefully, they sent it to Mossberg and it gets fixed and Wal-Mart doesn't just grab another "old" one off the shelf and give you that...