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bulltaco
May 27, 2007, 08:32 AM
My wife's great uncle showed me a rifle he owned. It had a box magazine on the side of the bolt action and was chambered for 30/40 Krag cartridge. I found out that model of rifle was used by the US troops during the Spanish-American War. Can somebody tell me a little more info on this type of rifle and if it is considered a rarity?

Old Time Hunter
May 27, 2007, 08:43 AM
Not rare, but currently has a very stong following. Probably the smoothest action of all bolt designs. Standard rifles, non-sporterized, with military markings (cartouche, etc.) in fair to good shape and with good bores are worth approximately $ 350-400 US. Fine shape guns can go for up to $600-700 US, same as original carbines. Unfortunately, because hundreds of thousands were sold as surplus and lightened by sporterizing, the sporty ones values are generally considerably less, about $150-300 US.

The .30-40 is a great all around cartridge, usually utilizing a 200 or 220 grain bullet that is good for hunting all North American big game.

armoredman
May 27, 2007, 09:35 AM
I wouldn't mind finding a Krag in decent shape.:cool:

cuate
May 27, 2007, 09:37 AM
And during that Spanish-American War, it was found that the Mauser rifles used by the enemy, the Spanish were more powerful, and a better weapon thought by some. This caused a replacement of the Krag-Jorgenson type rifle within the US Armed forces. The Krag, having one lug on the bolt rather than the usual two lugs as on Mausers could not be updated to a more powerful cartridge safely. This leading to the development of the 30-03 and later 30-06
cartridges and Winchester Model 1895 lever action rifles and ultimately the
fine 03 bolt action rifles for our military.

4V50 Gary
May 27, 2007, 09:41 AM
The Mauser armed Spaniards enjoyed a superiority with their higher velocity arms over the 30-40 Krag (or 45-70) armed American troops. While America won the war, her dissatisfaction with the Krag led to the development of the 03 Springfield. There's an oversized book by William Brophy on the Krag that I suggest you get it via inter-library loan.

FirstFreedom
May 27, 2007, 10:12 AM
Some links might be in order here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krag-J%C3%B8rgensen

http://americanhistory.si.edu/militaryhistory/collection/object.asp?ID=640

http://www.spanamwar.com/krag.htm

http://www.cruffler.com/historic-october01.html

bobn
May 27, 2007, 10:15 AM
hm, i used to swap around krags in various conditon like i did m1 carbines. i wasnt smart enough to hang on to either. now they are priced out of reach. values around here are now at 1200 for a nice one. simular to original trap doors. fwiw, bobn

FirstFreedom
May 27, 2007, 10:22 AM
Yep, if we didn't learn our lesson from the skyrocketing prices over the years of Krags, P17s, 1903s, M1 Carbines, & Garands, then we are destined to do the same with Mausers, Enfields, K31s, & others. Heed the warning, stock up, and don't sell, boys!