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October 23, 2006, 01:16 PM
I just acquired an 1890 Model Winchester(short 22 manufactured in 1923). The metal and wood parts are in very good condition but the barrel is "dark". Is there any way to clean it to make it any better. Any suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks for your time, Joe

James K
October 29, 2006, 08:40 PM
The "dark" in that barrel is due to rust caused by the old corrosive priming and lack of cleaning. You might find a bronze brush of help in getting out some of the crud (get a .25 caliber brush if you can), but the metal is gone and can't be replaced. You can have those barrels re-lined; Brownell's has the liners and drills and any decent gunsmith can do the job. However, it will be expensive (at least $150 or so) and will destroy the mild collector value those guns have.

I recommend retiring the gun to display status and buying a newer gun to shoot.


November 3, 2006, 07:08 AM
Jim, Your information is appreciated. Is it alright to shoot it a few time,safety wise, and will it affact the accuracy with the condition being " dark".
thanks again, joe

November 4, 2006, 11:28 AM
A dark bore (in my experience) may or may not indicate the ture sondition of the bore, or even how well it'll shoot. I've had some that (milsurps) that were really bad, once cleaned, had good rifling, and decent accuracy. What I've found to work really well (after spending HOURS scrubbing bores) are some of the new(er) Foaming Bore Cleaners. Worth a try, and you may find that the bore isn't as bad as you might think.

I'm "cleaning up" one for a friend (its and heirloom, she has no intention of shooting it). In this case the bores pretty good, but the outside is rough (and its actually made up of 2 different rifles----since its a "take-down", there are 2 serial #s!) But I found, when I researched this gun, that they made them with a variety of options, and SOME can be worth a quite a few bucks if they're in really good shape.

These were often called "gallery guns" as they used them in shooting galleries. The one I have here has a more triangular shaped loading port (to speed loading from a tube) not so rare, and a pistol grip stock (seem to be much rarer).

November 4, 2006, 04:34 PM
Thanks Dfaugh, Your help is very much appreciated; I'll check on the foam boar cleaner. Joe