View Full Version : can someone help me identify this rifle?

March 14, 2006, 02:42 PM
I don't know hardly anything about guns. :confused: My dad has an old gun that has been passed down through our family, but we haven't been able to find out anything on it. Any info would be greatly appreciated. :)

I do not see a "brand" name on it, just a series of numbers. They include:
NA 933, No. HA 933 (with a D under the "3"s), 1938, and above 1938, it has a star with what looks like an arrow inside of it.

As I said, any information on this rifle would be greatly appreciated. My dad works from 6:30 in the mornings and gets off late at night. I volunteered to try and find info on it.

Mike Irwin
March 14, 2006, 03:34 PM
The star inside the arrow is a BIG indicator that it's a Soviet-made rifle, at the Izhvesk (sp?) arsenal.

Is it a bolt action or semi-auto?

March 15, 2006, 01:37 PM
I believe it is bolt-action. :confused: Like I mentioned before, I know very little about guns.

Mike Irwin
March 15, 2006, 01:39 PM
OK, does it look anything like what you see in the pictures here:


Is there any chance of you taking some pictures and posting them?

March 15, 2006, 02:14 PM
It does look a great deal like the picture shown on M1895 Mosin-Nagant with the site behun8.srv.hu under it.

It resembles the bottom one the most, except that ours isn't shiny at all.

April 5, 2006, 05:13 PM
Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought the star with the arrow was Tula manufacture.

Mike Irwin
April 6, 2006, 02:48 PM

I thought a straight star was Tula, and the star/arrow was the other one.

I may be wrong, though.

James K
April 7, 2006, 04:45 PM
FWIW, I think Tula used the star and arrow or sometimes just the star. Izhevsk used the bow and arrow up to 1928 and the arrow in a triangle after that. Sestoretsk used just an arrow.

Tula now makes civilian arms under the name Tulski Oruzheiny Zavod (TOZ) or Tula Arms Works; Izhevsk uses IZHMASH as a trade name.