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bigbearcb
February 5, 2006, 04:57 PM
Hello all I am wanting to build a gun ive been told to do the kit thing from scratch and many others too. But I want your opion about this topic I dont care what type of gun rifle pistol it dont matter. If you could help me out it would be great.

Marlboro Man
February 5, 2006, 04:59 PM
I would say to you that you first need to decide on what gun you want to build and then come back.

cntryboy1289
February 5, 2006, 10:55 PM
You can build so many different guns that you really have to know what type of gun you want to build. I would advise you to visit this forum, it has a lot of good inforamtion and a lot of knowledgable folks there that can help answer any questions you might have:

http://www.homegunsmith.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?

About the only thing that will limit you is your imagination. A machining background would be nice as well as the machines to go with it, but you can use your imagination and build a lot of guns with various hand tools as well.

makar15
February 6, 2006, 04:14 PM
You also have to watch out to because alot (most) kits are full auto and you may have to buy a few parts to make them legal.:cool:

cntryboy1289
February 6, 2006, 04:20 PM
You are correct, but most of the kits come with enough parts for them to be legal. These kits weren't what I was talking about though. The poster was asking about building a gun, not putting on parts from a kit.

Now, you can buy 0% up to 80% frames and do the machining yourself or you can just make one from a set of plans and I thought this is what the poster was talking about.

They are legal to build for yourself by yourself as long as you don't intend to sell the gun. Lot's of people build their own guns this way and have a good time doing so.

makar15
February 6, 2006, 05:02 PM
What I was talking about was building a gun from parts kits. You know where you buy the parts out of say shot gun news then have your local dealer order a receiver or frame for you then you assemble the parts.:cool:

keebo52
February 6, 2006, 06:47 PM
I've built several AKs from kits. It's lots of fun and really not that hard. There are several discussion groups on the net that have great tutorials on how to build AKs. Try http://www.gunco.net/forums/ and http://www.surplusrifle.com for build information.

makar15
February 7, 2006, 12:01 AM
keebo, I have a question about your aks are they full auto because most of those kits are full auto kits and what if you live in a state that does not allow full auto the you are in trouble.:cool:

cntryboy1289
February 7, 2006, 12:56 AM
None of the kits that are for sale in the US are supposed to be able to be full auto. I haven't seen any myself that say they come with full auto capabilities. I of course may be wrong about it. Most kits have to have a certain number of parts on it that make it compliant with the 1968 rules. BTW, no state allows the use of a full auto without the Feds selling you the stamp to have one.

keebo52
February 7, 2006, 10:10 AM
cntryboy1289 is right. Full auto is illegal anywhere in the USA. The kits usually come with the original full-auto fire control group but most have the full-auto disconnector removed. All my AKs are legal builds which means they are semi-auto and have the correct number of US made compliance parts required by the feds. You MUST have at least 6 US made parts for the AK to be legal. To be safe, most builders replace the full-auto fire control group with US made semi-auto parts. That still leaves 3 additional parts to be replaced. I replaced the fire control group (3 parts), the pistol grip, the gas piston and the receiver. If you want to get everything in one kit, you can buy kits that have the compliance parts included from Tapco and other vendors. Here is a link that explains the compliance parts thing. http://www.gunco.net/forums/showthread.php?t=696 This site (Gunco.net) has the answer to all your build questions. If you do a search you can find the answer. IF not, just post your question and they there will be happy to help you. Of course, I'll help any way I can but the folks at gunco have MUCH more experience that me.

Good luck on the build.

jclaude
February 8, 2006, 04:05 PM
Do you have a budget in mind for this project? If so, it could probably help with some recommendations.

Budget or not, I will cast my vote for a sporter weight Mauser actioned bolt rifle in your choice of calibers.

walter in florida
February 9, 2006, 01:23 PM
I bought a used H & R model 622 which had been dry fired much to much and has a cylinder with deep ruts on some of the cylinder's chambers. I will have to replace the hammer which is messed up also, but not plactical if I need a new cylinder. Is there a cheap way of repairing the cylinder such as liquid steel or other products? I always carried my reading glasses, except the time I bought this revolver. I don not want to spend 75,00 to fix a 50.00 gun. Thanks walter in florida.

Handy
February 9, 2006, 03:09 PM
Walter, there is a tool for ironing out/shaving firing pin burrs on .22 chambers. I think I remember seeing it in Brownells catalog, so you could give them a call or talk to a gunsmith.

The ruts won't go away, but the raised sections will. I don't think the ruts will cause trouble on their own.

Harry Bonar
February 9, 2006, 05:32 PM
Dear Sir:
I would sincerely suggest that if you want to "build a gun" that you build a muzzle-loader from scratch!
Harry B.

fhp490
February 11, 2006, 08:01 PM
I agree with Harry B
go to the web sight and it will give you an idea
you will have a lot of fun doing it and the pride when it is finished
you will also learn a lot about fitting and finisning

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/categories/partList.aspx?catID=13&subID=77&styleID=300

precision40
February 20, 2006, 01:55 AM
If your not on a tight budget, you can always start with an AR15. Complete parts kits can be had for $600-$700 from DPMS. Brownells has some excellent videos about building an AR. I've built a couple and had a GREAT time doing so. Theres nothing to be scared about, the parts are basically drop-in.

The AR was designed to be extremely easy to build and maintain.

Lazy D
February 20, 2006, 09:16 AM
I would highly recommend you get one of these.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7220511938

superpelly
February 20, 2006, 03:51 PM
All you need is a nice stick and some rubber bands and you got yourself a really cool rubber-band stick gun.

I think some little kid is being a little prankster!!!!!

Kids, these days!!!

Don P
February 21, 2006, 06:48 PM
I'm just curious if you intend on building a pistol or a rifle. I may be wrong here but as I understand it if building a pistol you will need a FFL to purchase the frame and not sure about rifle parts.

mxwelch
February 22, 2006, 07:46 AM
A frame for a pistol or a receiver for a rifle will require a FFL dealer. Stripped or completely assembled, it doesn't matter. Anything else you can buy without it.

Dave Haven
February 22, 2006, 11:15 PM
A frame for a pistol or a receiver for a rifle will require a FFL dealer.Unless you make it yourself.