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rahtreelimbs
January 29, 2006, 12:26 PM
I live in Pennsylvania and am planning to hunt Black Bear this fall. One of the guys that will be going only has a 30-30 Win. I was thinking of letting his use my .270 loaded with 130 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips. Is this enough or good bullet for this application?

ranger dave
January 29, 2006, 12:42 PM
I Would Go With 150 Gr. Soft Points But Its Not What You Hit Them With But Where You Hit Them

mete
January 29, 2006, 01:11 PM
I don't like the performance of the 130 at short range it destroys too much meat. In addition a large bear needs a bit more penetration. Remember that PA bears in recent years have topped 800 lbs !! Though the average may be more like 300. A 150 would be better.

Twycross
January 29, 2006, 03:32 PM
Yeah, I'd go with either a heavier Ballistic tip, or switch to a different load, like an Accubond or Partition. What kind of ranges do you expect? The 30-30 should be plenty of gun at 150 yards or less.

bgoldhunter
January 29, 2006, 04:02 PM
The 270 with 130gr BT's are one of my favorite loads, and I would feel comfortable using them for bear. However, I would probably go to an Accubond with 140gr if I were loading my 270 for black bears. Most 270s I have not liked 150gr.

Trip20
January 29, 2006, 04:53 PM
Thought this might be helpful:

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15348&d=1128034493

youp
January 29, 2006, 06:06 PM
A black bear has heavy round ribs and a very heavy shoulder when compared to a whitetail. This animal deserves a premium bullet.

rahtreelimbs
January 29, 2006, 07:12 PM
I do have a load worked up for a 150 Gr. Nosler Solid Base. This may be the way to go!

Charles S
January 29, 2006, 08:13 PM
I do have a load worked up for a 150 Gr. Nosler Solid Base. This may be the way to go!

I really think that would be an excellent choice.

I have been experimenting with the 130 gr Barnes X for my 270. I have no doubt that it would be adequate.

Charles

yorec
January 29, 2006, 09:11 PM
Sufficient, but I think I'd go with a premium bullet too - or at least a heavier version. I've always liked 140 gr Sierra GameKing bullets in my .270 and think they'd work very well for black bear. But in 130grers, I'd go with Nosler Partitions or Barns Xs That'll keep your loads similar to what you're used to and provide the increased penetration you'll want on a big black.

TPAW
January 29, 2006, 10:15 PM
Remove all doubt, have him borrow a 30.06 if you or one of your friends have one.

Twycross
January 30, 2006, 03:36 AM
Why can't he just buy a new gun in the cartridge of his choice? Its a long time from now to next fall. :)

147 Grain
January 30, 2006, 08:38 PM
I would rather shoot a 30-30 Win with Federal 170-gr. Nosler Partitions on bear than a 270-gr. with a heavy duty hollow point like the Nosler Ballistic Tip (even though a heavy weight Ballistic Tip is my favorite deer bullet).

A 150-gr. .277 caliber AccuBond or Partition would be a much better choice than the Ballistic Tip.

Toney
January 31, 2006, 03:51 PM
Seem like all those 270 bullets expand alot!!! I've taken a couple of whitetails with the BT's really does a lot of damage, a lot more than the Hornady 130gr SP. Them partitions would work but i think i'd take an 06.

PS my 270 load was for a handy, was only shooting around 2700fps.

fisherman66
January 31, 2006, 04:02 PM
I really like Ballistic Tips, but I'd probably go with an A-frame or something bonded that won't have the tendancy to shatter when hitting bone on a bear. They are neither thin skinned nor thin boned. Step up to a more appropriate bullet. JMHO.