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Loupgarou
September 21, 2005, 06:19 PM
I live in South Florida and I've had a CCW license since 1990. Although I own several autoloaders, my carry gun has been a S&W 60 (a short bbl revolver, in 38 Special, of course :rolleyes: ). Given the climate, even my Sig P225 is a bit too big for comfort and my P7M8 too heavy (and too precious) for carrying around on a daily basis. Many years ago, I owned a G17 and a G30, but eventually sold them. I never considered them for carry -- too big and the square slide kept cutting into my hip uncomfortably (that was before the newer holsters). I don't own any Glock at present.

Now to my question. With the new holsters around, would it be a good option to get something like a G19 or G36 for carry? I've read mixed reviews of the G36 (too small for the .45 load) and excellent ones for the G19. Any insightful experienced opinions on these Glock models out there? :confused:

'75Scout
September 21, 2005, 06:30 PM
My GLOCK 26 is quite concealable, especially for a gun that holds 10 plus 1 of 9mm. It's fairly light and never had any malfunctions. I also love how easily is field strips. A belly band will probably be my holster of choice b/c i'm very slim and even the baby GLOCK is hard to conceal on me.

Lt102
September 21, 2005, 06:31 PM
I don't know about the 19 or the 36 but I have a 27 that I have no problem carrying. It is my go any where gun, with an inside the waistband holster and an untucked t-shirt not even my wife knows I have it on me. And I ahve yet to experience any discomfort while carrying it.

diggs
September 21, 2005, 06:36 PM
I bought about a month ago and so far really like it. I've put about 500 rounds through it with out a problem. I live in NE so I can't carry, but I would if I could. The low bore axis of the glock is very noticeable for quick follow up shots. I bought because it was my first larger caliber handgun(I've and a .22 for a long time) and wanted something simple and reliable. Mods and mags are readily available and afordable which is another reason I bought one.

diggs

Lavan
September 21, 2005, 06:37 PM
I had a Glock on my CCW along with my M36 Smith. I just can not GUARANTEE that a primer will fire. I ...never.... had a jam with my Glock but I ...have... had FTF due to (usually Federal) bad ammo.
While I have never had a misfire with anything but Federal, I still don't absolutely know that the round in the chamber is ...PERFECT.

For that reason alone, I carry a revo.

ScaryWoody
September 21, 2005, 06:56 PM
Glock 19. 15+1 rounds in a compact, light, concealable frame. It can only be beat by my Glock 23. It uses the same holsters and accessories but has just that tad bit more power. I like a pistol that I can grip firmly with at least four fingers. The Glock 26 was just a bit short for me.

Loupgarou
September 21, 2005, 07:57 PM
I want to thank you all for the replies. Ergonomics is all, I agree, with this issue. I will try out some of the models mentioned here, and check out how each of them fits my hand, and look for an appropriate holster before I decide. That was a good point about sticking with a revolver to overcome bad ammo FTF issues.

BobK
September 21, 2005, 11:18 PM
I have owned both the Glock 19 and 36. Like you I planned to carry them in warm weather. To be honest, they are a hell of a gun. But they just aren't for me. There wasn't anything that I liked about them. I call them "Block" instead of Glock. Pisses off my Glock buddies. My Kahr P9 is lighter, smaller, accurate and reliable. I carry it during the summer and a Kimber in winter.

281 Quad Cam
September 21, 2005, 11:43 PM
I haul around a glock 19 in South Florida. If I plan to be active outside I don't bother with it. Would become too visible in the gallons of sweat.

Kahr MK9 is smaller/thinner and have a good reputation. But than again if you don't often risk running around outside in summer... the 19 is plenty concealable.

RsqVet
September 22, 2005, 01:00 AM
I have a Glock 26 and am very fond of it, it can be a pocket gun with the 10 round flush fit mag or a very compact belt holster wepon with the 12 round finger grip mags. It carries nice in BDU pants as well and is not over heavy resulting in a lopsided or heavey feel to your pants / belt when it's in your pocket the way most other guns including my Sp101 (though there are lighter snub revolvers) does.

Also on the subject of Kahr, I tried that route, the product and the company support is poor at best, I would not investigate that route at all, if you do a search here and other places on the net you will see the signal to noise ratio on their quality and reliability is just too high to ignore, if you are intrested in a non-glock, single stack alternative I'd give the Sig 239 a look or the 232, though the 232 is a 380.

blackmind
September 22, 2005, 01:18 AM
One alternative in a hot climate like Florida, if you are comfortable with it, is to carry your CCW in a small shoulder satchel. I have a cheap one from Walmart, but it is close to ideal. It has a pocket for my wallet, another pocket for flat items like a plastic mirror (handy) and documents/checkbook. The main section holds the gun in a DeSantis IWB holster (I use this for trigger protection when the gun is in the bag). I trust this system implicitly, although I have to admit it is anything but a quick-draw enabler. It does, however, enable me to have my gun with me at all times with zero chance of printing or other exposure. No one will see the gun unless I unzip the bag and present it.

So my GLOCK 27 rides in there.

-blackmind

Bravo25
September 22, 2005, 02:42 AM
I carry A Glock 23, and have no problems with it.

pistolwhipped
September 22, 2005, 06:30 AM
I have been carrying a G38 for some time now and like it a lot. I wear the same clothing as with any other weapon. I carry it OWB.I found that in the Fl heat that I prefer OWB. I love this thing.
And what a shooter. :)

newworldCurmudgeon
September 22, 2005, 07:30 AM
Lou, I started with Colt Detective Special, and then switched to a Glock 30, it carries well, and you get 10 rounds of 45. The overall length of the glock and colt is about the same from barrel to butt. When I am stateside I actually carry a sprinfield ultra compact now.....I bought it for my wife (for mothers day) because she liked the way it "looked"; when she shot it the first time, she immediatly traded it to me for the Glock (although it holds less I think I got the better part of the deal. For the Glock I use an El Paso Saddlery IWB holster (Ultra Cover), carried between 1 and 2 o'clock. For the Springfield I usually use a Yaqui. I was in Arizona at the time, the Ultra cover worked great with shorts and T-shirts. Here is a link https://secure.aaa-servers.com/epsaddlery.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=67

I never found the glock to be bulky or too heay etc. I usually wore cargo shorts, so I had lots of pockets for spare mags etc.

Good Luck

eka
September 22, 2005, 07:36 AM
I own both the G19 and the G36. They are both basically the same size, with the exception of the G36 being a little thinner. Both are light in weight, resistant to corrosion, reliable, accurate, and easy to maintain. As far as the .45 ACP round being to potent for the G36, I would have to disagree completely with that. I have found it to be ideal for defensive type shooting. I also have never experienced the corner of the slide poking me either. I carry both of them OWB and IWB, so I don't know about that. Glocks are great for their intended purpose. Their not necessarily intended for Bullseye shooters heading for Camp Perry, but they work for me as a personal defense pistol. Also note, I carry other types handguns on a regular basis depending on the circumstances. No collection would be complete without a Glock or two and the same goes with a host of revolvers, Sigs, 1911s, etc.

denfoote
September 22, 2005, 07:40 AM
Glock 23: 13 rounds of .40Smith in a platform the same size as the G19.

The G19 is a fine pistol. I used to have one!! But when it came time to replace it, I went with more oomph!! ;)

The G36 is a fine pistol as well. I own one. I carry one. If having the same number of rounds as the colt officer's model does not bother you, then go for it!

Boarhunter
September 22, 2005, 09:16 AM
I have owned a Glock 19, 26, and 30 for many years and have nothing but praise for the Glock products...all of them. And all of them have been carried concealed at one time or another, but the 19 is, and has always been, my go-to carry gun (in addition to a snubby revolver in the pocket). Easily concealed, plenty of ammo, completely reliable, far more accurate than it needs to be, and fits my hand like a glove (and frankly that is the primary reason I prefer it to the 26 and the 30, which are a bit less "comfortable" in the hand for me).

I have also started shooting IDPA, not for the gamesmanship aspects, but to become better familiar with my carry gun. And I shoot the 19 in that competition. It works perfectly.

Boarhunter

litework
September 22, 2005, 09:28 AM
I never considered them for carry -- too big and the square slide kept cutting into my hip uncomfortably (that was before the newer holsters). I don't own any Glock at present.

The Glocks are just as “blocky” as you remember. Bladetech, as well as many others, have IWB holsters with an upward “flap” to prevent the pistol from digging into your side and will limit the amount of sweat that reaches your weapon as you go on those humid hikes. It also helps keep the weapon from snagging your clothes. You definitely need to make sure your belt loop setting matches your belt size. I obviously overlooked this. My new Bladetech and 1911 “walked” all over the place when I used the combo for the first time yesterday. There was some biting too; I would have returned the favor if I were in a more private place. Looser pants and a good retention system might help.


I will not use a Glock pistol for IWB carry, but the 19/23/32/38 would be my choice if I had to go the Glock route. Grips are reasonable on these models and the calibers are certainly potent. I use OWB holsters for Glocks.

shooter1
September 22, 2005, 10:06 AM
Lavan,
Federal primers should not be problematic in any Glock. I would suggest that you disassemble the upper on your Glock and use a pipe cleaner and solvent to clean out the firing pin channel. Any excess oil on the weapon will collect in the fp channel and dampen the firing pin blow. While you're there, use a strong light to check the plastic liner for damage or burrs. Change it out if needed. If you do this, your light strikes will go away. If you want a little extra insurance, install a + power firing pin spring. Good luck!
str1

16again
September 22, 2005, 04:46 PM
Newbie here, picked up a glock 23 a few weeks ago. Carry concealed IWB @ 4:30 with the Milt Sparks VM2 in South Florida. Gun is comfortable and the carry is comfortable.

tshadow6
September 22, 2005, 07:03 PM
I live in the tampa bay area, I carry a Glock 19 every day. A baggy tee shirt will hide a G-19 very well. The holster I sell on ebay works great on the G19. On ebay I'm coolcrazypeople101.