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Jericho9mm
September 17, 2005, 08:54 PM
I am saving my money up to buy a new gun and i was looking seriously at getting a 1911 based on its reputation alone. What are some companies (not custom smiths) that sell good ones or at least good clones? I was hoping to get a list and research them out before I go to the shop to handle them so I will at least know a little about them. :cool:

Thanks for all your help!

Wildalaska
September 17, 2005, 08:56 PM
:)

WildimbeingwaytooobstreperousAlaska

Jericho9mm
September 17, 2005, 09:02 PM
I wasnt being obstreperous in any way i really want to know what are some good 1911's, if i am going to invest in one i want to know about it first. either way it is way better than being truculent.

Wildalaska
September 17, 2005, 09:05 PM
Your'e being fine, Im being obstreperous...me...Im in one of my moods.....

:)

WildimtryingtobegoodAlaska

BerettaCougar
September 17, 2005, 09:14 PM
WildAlaska: "Colt"

kymasabe
September 17, 2005, 09:17 PM
Well, I thing Springfield would be a good place to start. I know some custom builders like using Norinco frames but maybe those are junk before the 'smiths do their magic. Kimber makes a ton of 1911's but you'll find like any other manufacturer, lovers and haters of any particular brand. I'm not a 1911 fan don't take anything I say as gospel truth...I think S&W is making 1911's, I know Taurus is coming out with a 1911, may be out already. If you want cheap, there is always Llama and the Bersa/Firestorm line. I think the Firestorm Gov't model claims that most of the parts are interchangable with other 1911's..Mil Spec. There's also Rock River Arms, and Charles Daly too.
But, if it was me, and I had a hankerin' for a 1911...Springfield would be my first choice.

hkg3
September 17, 2005, 09:29 PM
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Ozzieman
September 17, 2005, 09:32 PM
My old Colt gold cup is very hard to beat.
Springfields are good for the money.
I have two Kimbers that have been flawless.
I would not buy a S&W 1911, not for any good reasion other than there being copycats of the worst kind. (and I really like and collect N frames).
If your looking for a good shooter get a Colt Goverment. You can always modify the thing later and there are no lack of upgrade parts for a Colt.

Jericho9mm
September 17, 2005, 09:54 PM
The amount that i am looking to spend is between $550 and $650, with a possible ceiling of $700, it will be a kind of a graduation from college present to me from my parents but i need to pick one out.

tex45acp
September 17, 2005, 10:01 PM
Jericho,

Every major manufacturer makes great out of the box shooters and they all make guns that need some adjustment as well. It's a coin toss.

Springfield Armory
Kimber
Colt
Para Ordnance
These are your top 4 non-custom guns and each also makes custom variables of their standard production.

Wilson
Baer
Ed Brown
Cylinder & Slide
STI
These are a few of the better Custom (high dollar) guns.

Take your pick!!

yorec
September 18, 2005, 12:24 AM
I was in youre shoes not four months ago... I went with Springfield Armory and haven't had cause to look back yet. :cool:

MoW
September 18, 2005, 12:28 PM
Spend the extra and get an Ed Brown!!

Te Anau
September 18, 2005, 12:39 PM
Heres a good company.
http://www.shootersarms.com.ph/

IZinterrogator
September 18, 2005, 12:46 PM
With that budget, I'd say a Springfield.

WillBrayjr
September 18, 2005, 03:38 PM
Springfield Armory, hey the FBI chose SA ;)

h_tolley
September 18, 2005, 06:58 PM
If you want brand new I'd get a new Colt full sized. If you can live with one a couple years old, I'd get a Kimber series 1 (I never did like the swartz-a-matic- 'safety' in the series 2). Springfield Armory are fine, but when I quit buying them they still had two-piece barrels :( (not sure if this is true today) and a blockier front strap (this has definitely changed to better profile). :)
Just one man's opinion...

progunner1957
September 18, 2005, 07:13 PM
My choice would be either a -

Colt 1991A1
Colt XSE Government model
Colt Combat Commander
one of the Springfield Armory 1911s
or a Kimber 1911

Not in order of choice.

Kimber seems to run hot and cold, putting out flawless 1911s for awhile and then putting out a batch that has problems. I have one of the first TLE II's to come out and it has been 100%+ reliable with a very good trigger and excellent accuracy.

If I were to buy a new Kimber, I'd get the "Desert Warrior" model; otherwise, I'd get one of the Colt XSE 1911s, which are the best 1911s Colt has put out in 30 years, according to some of the gun writers and other 1911 experts.

Rob96
September 19, 2005, 03:29 AM
Colt 1991A1 Gov't Model.

WESHOOT2
September 19, 2005, 05:16 AM
Baer
Brown
Clark
Infinity
Kimber
Nowlin
RRA
SIG
S&W
STI
Wesson


pretty short list, ay?

swingset
September 19, 2005, 05:24 AM
Smith and Wesson makes, to me what is the best gun for the money in 1911's. The std. stainless 1911 can be had for $650, and for that price you get exceptional fit and finish, reliability (out of the box), accuracy and good features. Not to mention, one of the best customer service depts. of any of the production 1911's.

Can't go wrong there.

Sam815
September 19, 2005, 12:56 PM
Jericho9mm,

I purchased a stock Colt 1991-A1 several years ago which I then customized by adding Wilson Sights, Ed Brown ambi safety, Videki trigger, S&A magwell and trigger job. Has worked flawlessly, however as Tex45acp put it you can purchase a Springfield Armory Loaded series for about $600-$700 which comes
with most aftermarket add-ons already installed. Good luck and shoot safe.

Jericho9mm
September 19, 2005, 12:59 PM
thanks everyone for the help i have definitly received an education about 1911's. right now i am looking into 1st Springfield and then 2nd Kimber becasue of cost/features that are presented on their websites, so for my weekly trip to the gun shop i should be ready to start handling a few.

IanS
September 19, 2005, 01:41 PM
Under $1000

Colt NRM 1991 or XSE
SW1911
Springfield "Loaded" or Mil Spec
(In this price range if possible try to inspect and pick the best one out of the ones available. Fit, finish, trigger, etc)


Mid $1000 + (less likely you'll want to change or upgrade parts)

Les Baer TRS/Premier II
SA TRP
STI Trojan*


$2000 +

Springfield Professional
Ed Brown*
True Custom Job (Yost/Bonitz, Rogers, Christianson, among many others)*

*(although I have no personal experience with them)



Remember to always use good quality mags. I like McCormick "Power" Mags 8 rounders, Wilson 47 7 round Mags, or Les Baer 7 round Mags.

at-home-daddy
September 19, 2005, 03:07 PM
Another vote for S&W...lots of different models these days at reasonable and competitive prices, and not a loser in the bunch.

cuate
September 19, 2005, 03:08 PM
John Browning was a genius and his Model 1911 was/is a wonderful pistol copied by many gun makers today, it does really take a little getting used to, proper hold and so forth but once done it is hard to beat.

I started out with well worn and worn out WW1 and WWII Colts and couldn't hit the side of a barn, saw others could and practiced. Get what you want and can afford and have a ball! Wolf ammo isn't so expensive and easy to get.

Jericho9mm
September 19, 2005, 03:15 PM
along the Browning line: is a Hi-Power jsut another version of the 1911 or is it a completely different gun? no doubt a gun designed by Browning is a great design and firearm but aren't HP's designed by JMB also?

IanS
September 19, 2005, 04:20 PM
JMB used many of the same ideas from the 1911 for the BHP. The most obvious getting rid of the bushing and recoil plug. The BHP design was actually completed by a protege of JMB's, Dieudonne Saive. Browning passed away before the final design was completed. So you could think of JMB's BHP as his final Unfinished Masterpiece; the same way music fans think of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's posthumous Requiem Mass


Some say the BHP is a refinement of the 1911 design. Of course 1911 stalwarts will vehemently deny that. Particularly the fact that the BHP trigger can never be as refined as the 1911's and the fact they dont' come in .45 ACP.

Personally I am a fan of the BHP but I think of the 1911 and the Browning M2 .50 machinegun as his true Masterpieces.