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September 14, 2002, 10:49 PM
Got this in an email. Anyone read Chinese? My friend says this is a 9mm with 50 rounds in rotary clip, also available in a 5.8mm armor penetrator model. Action is gas operated. The mag seems to be inspired by a Russian design. The overall package seem pretty smart.

September 14, 2002, 10:51 PM
Pic one

September 14, 2002, 10:53 PM
pic 2

September 14, 2002, 11:14 PM
Wow, a Chinese Calico. Maybe it will work better.

September 15, 2002, 02:40 AM
I think this gun needs to be over in the UGLY thread.:)

Only Calico (full auto type) I ever saw was in the movies. Always wanted to shoot one myself, just haven't came across any. I wonder if 100 rounds of 9mm on full auto in one long burst would damage it.

September 15, 2002, 10:28 AM
It reminds me of somewhat of the Steyr TMP.
If you go to China and fork over the bucks, I hear even a "running dog of American imperialism," can shoot these on a range near one of China's major cities. I think an article on it appeared in Guns Illustrated a few years ago.

September 15, 2002, 11:02 AM
If there is a rotary magazine above the barrel,then what is
that thing protruding from the pistol grip?A cleaning kit?
An emergency magazine so the shooter can fire the gun
when attacked during a reload?:D :rolleyes: :confused:

Judging by the looks of the chambered cartridge it`s indeed
9mm Luger.


September 15, 2002, 01:17 PM
Yeah I wondered about the grip protrusion.

The gas operation and configuration kinda reminds me of the HK MP-7 PDW. The tube magazine I think is more Russian Bizon than Calico, and it's top mounted with feed in the rear like the FN P-90. The Calico's chamber was in front of the trigger group. The safety on this thing looks awkward, a Steyr AUG type trigger might make perfect sense. Some sort of reflex sight and a transparant magazine tube would be better.

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