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May 29, 2002, 06:45 PM
Police impound weapons sold at Cape mall

HYANNIS - A Cape Cod Mall business owner says the swords and knives he sells are collectible items, sold only for display.

Barnstable police say they are dangerous weapons, illegal in Massachusetts.

John Horner said he was surprised when police seized nine swords and knives from his business's pushcart earlier this month. Horner and partner Eric Anderson own Jabberwocky, located near the Holidays card and gift store.

"I would contend everything they took out of the (display) case was legal," Horner said. "If you walk down the cutlery aisle at Stop & Shop, you can find knives that are five times as dangerous as what we sell."

A mall security officer contacted Barnstable police on May 15, after a Jabberwocky employee reported that somebody might have walked off with the keys to the register and display case.

Officer Jason Laber spotted the weapons. He seized the knives and swords after conferring with Sgt. Steve McGuire.

State law says it's illegal for an unauthorized person to carry, among other weapons, a stiletto or any knife with a double-edged blade. The police characterized four of the knives as stilettos. The three swords have sharp, double-edged blades.

Among the items seized: A "William Wallace" model sword, which retails for $250 and is about 4 feet long.

Another item was described as "The Scorpion" knuckle knife. The weapon has two blades, one extending from the handle and another that wraps around the top of the knuckles. State law also outlaws possession of metallic knuckles.

Barnstable Police Sgt. Sean Sweeney said there's no practical use for such knives and swords other than to injure somebody. The owners were not charged with a crime.

Jabberwocky opened about one month ago. The business sells "New Age" items, according to Horner, including candles, incense, toy dragons, flags and suits of armor. The partners also own a store at the Taunton Mall that sells similar products and haven't had any problems there, he said.

Horner said he respects the police, but he believes they made a mistake. Collecting replica knives and swords has become popular recently in reaction to movies such as "Lord of the Rings," he said.

"We sell collectibles. We don't sell weapons," Horner said. "We don't sell these for guys who want to go out and kill English warriors.

"We're not interested in selling weapons to punks," he said.

Jabberwocky does not investigate the background of its customers except to verify their age. The store will not sell weaponry to anyone under the age of 18.

Mall management was unaware that Jabberwocky was selling anything illegal before the police brought it to their attention, said Leo Fein, mall manager. "We cooperated fully as did the tenant," he said.

Jabberwocky still had swords in its case Thursday, but Fein said those were collectibles, "not anything that could be used as a weapon."

Horner said he has called the Barnstable police about having his merchandise returned, but he hasn't heard back from them.

The items are locked in a police evidence room.


May 29, 2002, 10:33 PM
Jabberwocky still had swords in its case Thursday, but Fein said those were collectibles, "not anything that could be used as a weapon." Carefull what you say Mr. Fein, one man's brick is another man's weapon. The whims of the politicos change at the drop of a vote, or a buck.

May 30, 2002, 10:33 AM
This story brings to mind the old quote, "where are we all going, and what's w/ the handbaskets?"

May 30, 2002, 11:12 AM
I can't even imagine how they justify this one, it seems as plainly illegal as anything I can imagine.

Master Blaster
May 30, 2002, 11:17 AM
Carrying a sword as a weapon is illegal in Delaware, But you can own them Legally.

I think the police are confusing carrying and Owning.

You can own a snub nose revolver without a permit, but you need a permit to carry it concealed in public.

May 30, 2002, 11:27 AM
You can own a snub nose revolver without a permit, but you need a permit to carry it concealed in public.

For real? Even in Massachusetts?

Master Blaster
May 31, 2002, 12:15 PM
Do you need a permit to own a snubbie in Mass?

I think it can pass all the communist drop tests, I know you cant own a single shot Thompson contender in the peoples utopian republic of communist Mass, casue mine had a sticker on the box that said:

" According to the Massachusetts Attorney General this firearm is not legal for sale in Massachussetts."

I guess the crimminals really like an 18" long 4lb single shot silhouette gun, with a manual cock hammer and a rifle scope.
Every crimminal wants one to carry concealled

Of course its Easily concealed in the Mass AG's huge butt crack, right next to his brain. Since his ass is the size of New Jersey (sitting on it all day you know) and his brain is the size of a pea.

Yes in Delawhere, you can own any gun you (except silenced Mgs) like and buy as many as you want without a permit.

Of Course our utopian bliss whores from the hood like state senator marshall, and rose (the theif ) Henry. are working to change this. It seems all the law abiding crack dealers who live in their districts, keep getting shot in the arm and the leg, and all they see is a gun, they never see the person shooting them at point blank range.

Built in Gun locks will fix this, and prevent the three accidental shootings (all with hunting Shotguns, except one with a 30 year old highpower given to a 16 year old by mentally defective parents) we have had in the last 4 years.

But its the law abiding citizens you need to worry about.:mad:

Rant over.:)

May 31, 2002, 01:00 PM
To own or possess a snubbie and its ammo in Massachusetts you need:

1) Class B pistol permit
2) Class A concealed pistol permit

I don't know about the knives/swords. I suspect the cops are actually wrong on this one. But so what, they do what they want anywhoo...


May 31, 2002, 01:35 PM
To own or possess a snubbie and its ammo in Massachusetts you need:

I was afraid of that. 'Twas sounding a bit too good to be true.

(Imagine me, a gun owner? :eek: Someday, I guess)

May 31, 2002, 02:36 PM
Wyleone, what's stopping you ... apply for your license today!


May 31, 2002, 02:48 PM
I have a strategy.

I want to be completely untouchable, absolutely perfect.

That way, when (not "if") the Boston PD rejects my application, I'll sue 'em for violating my second amendment rights. I will also demand 24/7 police protection, since they are denying me the chance to provide that for myself.