View Full Version : Money is no object whats your dream hunt?
February 5, 2002, 02:54 PM
I know this is going to sound wierd guy's but here goes.
I want to do a world wide hog slam.
Starting in Africa I'd like to take all four species of wild swine Warthog, Bush Pig, Giant forrest Hog and the Barbay Wild Boar.
Then I'd like to travel to the Siberian Tioga and collect a real life Russian Boar I hear some go over 600lbs. We'll then cross the conteninent and collect a Kieler Boar in Germany or Poland after which it's off to Indonesia to collect one of those wierd looking hogs with the tusks that stick up out of the top of it's nose. I forget what you call them.
Any that I missed in the wild boar catagory please let me know and I'll be sure to add them to my list.
Any financial support for this project can be sent to the H&H hog hunter fund.
Whats your hunting dream/goal?
Double Naught Spy
February 5, 2002, 03:01 PM
A Cryptozoology Hunt involving....
Yeti, Lochness, Champ, and come home to hunt Big Foot.
February 5, 2002, 04:02 PM
About the only thing I'd want to hunt and shoot would be some of the African antelope. For some reason, those spiral horns of the kudu have always been a bit of a turn-on for my hunting instinct.
Otherwise, I'd love to go along for the ride. I get as much fun doing small chores around camp and BSing at a campfire as a lot of the actual kill.
Chousing around, looking at critters, maybe killing "camp meat"...
And camp cooking is some of the best food there ever was!
February 5, 2002, 05:44 PM
H&H, your dream hunt sounds good to me. When do we leave?
February 6, 2002, 12:37 PM
If money truly was no object, I'd go after tiger. (OK, it's banned now, but if I start a museum which needs a specimen, and I spread enough bribes - errrr, I mean campaign contributions around, it'll get done!)
Otherwise, I have a thing about Africa. I'm fortunate, in that I've taken lion, leopard, Cape buff, and some plains game on previous hunts. But if I had the budget, I'd like to go after a big elephant and a rhino, as well as some of the more exotic game like bongo and gerenuk. Since truly big elephant are very, very, hard to come by today, it would have to be a long-duration African safari, on which I would plan to take all the Big 5 and beyond . . .
Considering what's happening in RSA, Zimbabwe, Zambia, and much of the rest of Africa today, soon this won't be possible no matter how much money you have.
February 8, 2002, 12:30 AM
How long do you figure it'll be before Zimbabwe is gone? And how long before RSA breaks into the vicious cycle of Civil war that has been so often repeated in Africa. Whats the deal with Zambia? What happened I was looking at hunting there just a short while ago and then zappo it's gone. Hank what do know about the situation in Botswana?
I like to leave tomorrow or the next day unfortunaley it'll be a while.
I think that a bigfoot skin coat would look cool. I wonder what Yeti tastes like? Probably tastes like chicken.
February 8, 2002, 12:33 AM
it's off to Indonesia to collect one of those wierd looking hogs with the tusks that stick up out of the top of it's nose. I forget what you call them. Babirusa
February 8, 2002, 01:03 AM
I'm tempted to say elitest gun grabbers, but you have a right to be wrong in this country.:rolleyes:
I want my dad to come to life one more time so we can go chase the bunnies through the woods, just one last time....
February 8, 2002, 01:59 AM
Big five in Africa.
I would bring along a couple of Winchester 95 rifles in .405 Winchester and .30-40 Krag, a big English double rifle .500 Nitro Express, and perhaps a classic English double 16ga shotgun for fowl and small game.
February 8, 2002, 03:12 AM
For years and years my old college roommate and I would discuss going polar bear hunting in Greenland. We did a lot of reading about that ice-island. You know there's only about 62k people there, and almost all of them speak only Greenlandic, or maybe also some Norwegian? Look at their main exports: "Agricultural products." Hmmmm what would those be? "1.Reindeer... 5.Polar Bear"
How kewl is THAT?!? We talked about working at a reindeer ranch neer Nuuk (formerly Godsthab), then, after we'd picked up some of the local culture and some krona for spending money (we were, after all, poor college students), we'd head out into the icy tundra in search of the mighty polar bear!
We were considering 12ga shotguns loaded with 1oz slugs at the time, but I've more means at my disposal now, and I'm thinking either a .35Whelen or a .338 Winmag.
Damn, I still wanna go...
February 8, 2002, 07:23 AM
I would like to hunt the Taliban
February 8, 2002, 07:27 AM
Cape buff with a spear. Strange thing is i'm crazy enough to try..
February 8, 2002, 07:55 AM
Cape buff with a spear. Strange thing is i'm crazy enough to try
That's not crazy at all. The moment I read it I was able to smell the hunt and the blood and feel the rush of adrenaline. Oh, yeah. I may never do it, but now I will be thinking about it :)
February 8, 2002, 08:39 AM
I guess my dreams are much simpler...in order of hunts:
February 8, 2002, 09:59 AM
Another vote for the african big 5 here.
But since theres no money limit let's put the duration to the rest of my life and add in every other game species I can appy for during that time, travel included! Just one hunt after another, forever....
February 8, 2002, 10:39 AM
H&H hunter, it's funny, but you mentioned three of the countries I've hunted! South Africa is a problem - crime is so high, that the rulers have declared the crime rate to be a state secret. Our travel department at work has links to a website that rates cities on a danger scale of 1 to 7, and Johnnesburg rates a 6. (Kabul was the only 7!)
Zimbabwe is in sad shape, and seems to be headed toward famine. Mugabe's thugs are seizing white-owned farms, but are too lazy or ignorant to work the land. Much of the farmland of what used to be southern Africa's breadbasket has been taken out of production. And it's not just white-owned farms that are being seized - white-operated businesses in major cities are being attacked, almost like the Nazis attacked Jewish businesses on Kristallnacht. Problems are spreading, and I'm afraid they'll soon engulf the major hunting & tourist areas. I fear for Zimbabwe's future. I'd say the next 2 years will determine Zimbabwe's course for the next 10. With luck, 77-year old Robert Mugabe won't be around much longer.
Corruption in Zambia related to allocation of hunting areas is allegedly what caused that country to simply shut down hunting. A pity, as when I was there, the safari industry seemed to be healthy, and well on its way back to recovery.
Don't know anything about Botswana, other than it's expensive.
February 8, 2002, 10:55 AM
I would love to go to eastern rockies to shoot prairie dog and then use the carcasses to bait coyote. Throw in some pheasant or other upland game bird shooting(I need a nice pump 12 ga shottie for this). Travel up into the rockies for mulie, elk, caribou(gotta get a Win mod70 Classic compact and rebarrel for 7mmWSM or 300WSM). This is followed by a trip to arizona to do some dove shooting(I need a nice SxS 20ga for this).
I would then look to the Plains and find a nice fat antelope, followed by a buffalo(bison) hunt with either a Sharp open hammer in 45-90 black powder or a Rem Rolling block in 45-90.
February 8, 2002, 02:21 PM
Thank you sir, It's off to Indonesia for some Babirusa shooting ole boy!
I just happen to be familiar with just such an event. Last year the owner of Cold Steal Mr Lynn Thompson (I think I got the last name spelled correctly) took a very nice Cape Buffalo Bull with one of his spears. I've an aquaintance whose got the pictures I'll see if we can get them posted.
Thank you for your info. I always find it hard to believe that we let Rohdesia fall to that Marxist scum and become what it is today. All in the name of African Racial independance. Never before and never again will there be a more free and well run country anywhere in the whole African contenient as was Rohdesia. Look what they have now!!! Murder ,poverty, political unrest, war, infighiting, tribalism. By golly it's just like it was 200 years ago isn't it? I hope they're enjoying their new found independance.
February 8, 2002, 11:55 PM
Near as I can tell about Africa, the idea of Democracy is "One man, one vote, one time." Then, it's "President for life"--and if not, well, the guy with the most gangsters wins. And wins. And wins.
February 9, 2002, 12:08 AM
#1 Trophy Elk. A real hunt, not pen raised fenced in TV elk hunting. Hard hunt where you really have to work for it. Way back in deep where you don't see anybody else. Pack in on horses. Stay for a couple weeks. Maybe do a little fishing during the hunt.
#2 Coyote hunting with someone that is really good at it. Someone who has the experience to show me the finer points, the stuff I never thought of. I do it here, but never seem to find the time to do it much.
#3 Trophy Whitetails. Possibly in central Canada. Again, a real hunt, No TV stuff. The big huge ones.
February 9, 2002, 01:27 AM
I dare say that Iicould help you out with #1 and #2.
#1 That's one of my specialties I love packing way back in for Elk. I do it nearly every year. I drew a Valle Vidal tag (Northern NM)last season you wouldn't believe me if I told you about the shear numbers of Elk, and the quality and quantity of big bulls was sureal. That was a pack in hunt unforunatley it ended on the second day when my brother had to be transported to a hospital after a rather nasty encounter witha Black Bear (but that's another story). In any case after getting him taken care of I went back in and shot a big fat cow about 10 miles from the road right at sundown and packed her out under the stars. Ahhh what a memory that hunt is gonna be for a long time to come.
#2 As far as that goes I am a pretty fair Predator caller if I say so myself. Been doing it a long time and learned from some of the best. I'd love to come out to Parump and give the ole sly dogs a whistle. Just say when. (Fall is the best time for hot action and stupid Coyotes)
On # 3 Go for it guy I'd like to try that one out myself.
February 9, 2002, 02:50 AM
I'd have to say a good Moose hunt. They are so majestic and magnificent looking. I know a guy who killed one with a 270 last year. I believe that I would take the 375 off of the shelf for this. I have a relative who owns property in northern Maine, bordering paper company property. Maybe one of these days we will win the draw and get to go.
February 9, 2002, 02:59 AM
Remember, "You're only President for Life."
Has a 'nother whole meaning when emphasized .... ;)
Me? I'd just as soon get to do just a few more CO elk-trips as we do every year.
High country, beautiful air, clear killer-blue skies, great eats after a days' hunt (we do eat so good! out in the boonies!), good companionship, warm sleeps, 'n a good, decent/fair chance at our elk ...
I've done some others, & in many a differnt land, but CO really is.
It simply is.
(& alas! if we could only do away with our urbanized politicians! ;) ... heavy sigh .... )
& never having been to Alaska, I fear to do so - I may never come back home ....
February 9, 2002, 10:23 AM
David, I like your hunt better. Hunting with Dad again would beat all the big game hunts in the world.
12-34hom Cape with a spear? Don't know if I'd join in but I'd like to watch!
February 9, 2002, 07:50 PM
I always find it hard to believe that we let Rohdesia fall to thatMarxist scum and become what it is today.'. RANT MODE ON: Right, thanks to Jimmy Carter. When it was Rhodesia, that great bastion of human rights, the United Nations, had put an embargo on trade with them. (Of course, human rights in the eyes of rational people differ from human rights in the eyes of the socialists, communists, and kleptocrats than run so many of the U.N.'s member nations.) Under Nixon, we continued to buy chromium from Rhodesia. But under Jimmy Carter, we decided to kowtow to the U.N. and buy chromium from that great defender of human rights, the Soviet Union. At four times the price. Which used the proceeds to finance the invasion of Afghanistan, which in hindsight paved the way for the Taliban and Osama, and ultimately the events of Sept.11. (Gee, Thanks, Jimmy!) HOWEVER, at the same time we were NOT buying Rhodesian chrome, Jimmy was content to let American coffee companies trade with Uganda, which was then ruled by Idi Amin, an admitted cannibal.
I'm sorry, but it seems to me that DEVOURING someone has got to be pretty much the ultimate human rights violation!
When Idi was deposed, he went to our sterling friends, the Saudis, who gave him refuge.
All this stuff can be tied together, and, IMHO, political correctness has already cost us - and Africans of all colors - dearly. RANT MODE OFF.
Hmmm . . . I wonder if I could have made this rant any more un-PC?
February 9, 2002, 11:16 PM
I'm going to draw that Desert Bighorn Sheep permit!
Then after I get him (yeah right), I'll go up to Canada and Alaska to get the other 3 (Rocky Mountain, Stone and Dall).
Till then, like Labgrade, I'll head up to the high country and chase the elusive elk beast for my (yearly) dream hunt.
February 10, 2002, 01:05 AM
I want to go with you when you get that desert Bighorn permit. I put in for it every year as well. If I get it I'll give you a jingle. Of course on this post money is no object so you can just buy one!!!! I've even got a place to go down in the Animas.
February 10, 2002, 01:44 AM
This has nothing to do with the thread but.........
A couple weeks ago my buddy and I went coyote calling in the moring. After we were done we starting exploring some back roads. We rounded a corner and about 10 feet off the road were four Desert Bighorns. We were within about 25 yards of them, and they couldn't care less. We looked at them, then we got out the binos and glassed them, then I gave my buddy hell for forgetting the digital camera, we got out they never ran. We eventually got tired of it and drove right past them on up the hill. The road turned out not to go where we wanted, so we came back. The rams were now on the other side of the road over looking a water hole. My buddy got out his gold pan and starting sifting dirt from the water. One of the rams came down to within bayonet range of us and basically told us to get the hell out of there. And again, I had to remind this idiot that he forgot the camera. And he had to remind me that I didn't even own one, so shut up.
February 11, 2002, 01:25 PM
You're right! I'll just go to one of those Wild Sheep foundation auctions - $100K or so and I should be able to snag one of them permits. Hell - If money is no object I'll just buy half of New Mexico, like Ted Turner, and go hunting whenever and whatever I want. That's the ticket!
I've got a 4-day Frontsight certificate I'm going to use sometime in the future. Maybe we could get together and take a few pictures of them there Bighorns. (If you have a camera by then:) )
February 11, 2002, 09:06 PM
Thats the spirit Johndog,
Hell we'll buy the state and make Ted Turner our camp boy. And then buy a camera for 444.
February 11, 2002, 11:05 PM
If you make it out here, I will be more than happy to take you. I can't guarantee we will see any sheep, but we can look. Of course our chances of success depend on how much time we spend looking for them. It is relatively easy to see them at Lake Mead, but I don't have a boat either. Shoot me off an E-Mail before you come and I will get you my phone number.
If you apply for a tag, you will get drawn in about 10 years. Four of my friends have been drawn. Three of them scored. I think I have three or four points right now. So, another 7 years ? Someone told me that they relaxed the regulations on desert bighorns. It used to be that you had to attend a class if you were drawn which instructed you on how to field score a sheep and you were only permitted to take a fully mature ram with a certain size rack. I was told that they did away with that but I am not sure.
February 12, 2002, 12:22 AM
I read somewhere that the money they'd been raising off the permits, they've put into building guzzlers for water-supply augmentation. This has finally paid off in allowing a larger population.
Same problem around desert bighorn country that we have here: Plenty of food; not enough water points.
February 12, 2002, 12:31 AM
Art, sorry, I can't resist.
That is why they call them DESERT bighorns. They live in the desert (usually a very dry place). :D
February 12, 2002, 02:01 PM
Upland birds (pheasants, grouse, quail, etc) everywhere they are. But to make it perfect, it would have to include my son (13 months) and my Dad (60yo).
Even better, use Sarah Brady for a flushing dog (one or two pushed ought to finish her off) and a gagged Rosie to hump ammo and guns.
February 12, 2002, 05:40 PM
You are correct. Hunting organizations are pretty much the only reason there are any sustainable heards of Desert Bighorns left in the world. And in NM that goes for the Rocky Mountain Bighorn as well. I guess when you really look at we thank hunters for many of the miracles in heard health and sutainability.
Dude I am definatley coming with you on that hunt!!!Sara Brady And Roosie:D LMAO!!!!!
February 12, 2002, 05:44 PM
444: :); true. However, the southwestern deserts of the U.S. are apparently still in the "drying out" process.
We had a fella move down here in 1928. He commented in the middle 1980s that the tree line in Big Bend National Park was moving upward. This is indicative of a slight reduction in average annual rainfall over time. I've been running this country for some 30 years, now, and concur. It does indeed take a while for such stuff to become noticeable.
Some of the really sure-nuff Old Timers point out where springs used to be--but they're dry, now. There once was a trickle-spring on my back-country place. It later turned itself into a seep, and is now hardly a damp spot. Darned shame. Here and there in the back country I'm not even seeing tracks where once I saw mule deer.
So, guzzlers. I wouldn't be surprised if the same process were ongoing around the Pahrump area.
February 12, 2002, 07:29 PM
There certainly are guzzlers around here. In fact you can get a guzzler map from the fish & game dept. For those of you back east; out here you don't just go out in the woods and start hunting. You drive from one watering hole to another, get out and hunt around the water (this is mainly bird hunting altough you can certainly hunt big game over water) If you don' t know where the water is, you end up hunting for water instead of game.
On the mountain that seperates the Pahrump Valley from the Las Vegas Valley we have a small elk herd. There used to be a very nice water system for them consisting of old bathtubs with pipe running from one to the other but the last time I checked on it it was in disrepair.
February 17, 2002, 02:05 PM
If funds were no object, and there were no political obstacles, I would simply like to repeat the hunts of C. J. McElroy, the founder of Safari Club International. You can check out his trophy room at:The Wildlife Museum (http://thewildlifemuseum.org) . Although its much more impressive to actually visit the museum.
February 17, 2002, 04:04 PM
MY dream hunt would be to go back in time and hunt the dinosaurs. After that, the proto mammals.
February 17, 2002, 04:07 PM
Me, my Guide Gun, and a coin flip: either Kodiak brown bear or cape buffalo. But, one can never get enough elk hunting. Just the sight of a large bull in a wild setting is as exciting as anything I can think of.
February 18, 2002, 01:38 AM
It would have to be a cape buffalo with my .45-70, a 405 grain hard cast over 70 grains of Re-7.....skull buster.
February 18, 2002, 01:51 AM
Well, I tried to post on this topic. I am new on this site and I don't know what sepperates the "junior members" from the senior members"yet. If anyone has questions about hunting hogs, you can email me. I have experience in feral and Russian boars, so send me one, or ask me a question on this site. ...Lee
February 19, 2002, 11:28 AM
If you want to start a new thread go to the hunt page (that's the one you acessed this thread off of) then go to the bottom on the left hand side. You'll see a start new thread prompt. Click on that puppy and type away.
The only difference between a senior member and a JR member is the number of posts you've put in. Anybody is free to post a thread or reply to one as far as I know.
I'd like to see your hog hunting thread I've got a big lease not to far from your part of the world that we do a bunch of hog hunting on like to compare notes with ya.
February 19, 2002, 12:10 PM
The traditional month long walking safari in Africa. The tents, campfires, all the game you could want, gun bearers and trackers, with assorted natives to take care of the camp chores and provide homegrown musical entertainment. Of course a month long supply of good whiskey and good food. A beautiful woman along would also be a nice diversion.;)
February 19, 2002, 04:20 PM
An Alaska hunt with:
February 19, 2002, 09:09 PM
A hunt that has occurred to me over the years, ever since a period in my youth spent in the Pacific Northwest US, is Badger, flat-footed on the ground, with my old Darton SL-50 Compound bow modified with overdraw shelf and some short composite bolts. If I survive that, I'd pay to hunt Wolverine the same way, on the ground, but I'd leave the Darton at home and bring my Super Blackhawk. And I'd hunt the "Glutton" over bait.
February 19, 2002, 09:39 PM
I'd like to try my hand at hunting the deadliest game of all-
February 21, 2002, 04:54 PM
Barring the expense to create a time machine so that dinosaur and big ivory wasn't considered "unsporting."
These days, I'd say Kudu, Gemsbok, Sable, Zebra, and the mean old Cape Buffalo. I'm against predator hunting in general, but a real seat of the pants lion hunt on foot would indeed be stellar. I'd use a .375 for everything. No canned hunting, walking around in the bush with a tracker and a canteen.
Same rifle for Alaska and bear/caribou hunting, better boots and warm clothes.
After reading about the supposed "god bear" of Kamchatka, hell I'd volunteer to hunt that with a camera.
May 16, 2002, 09:54 PM
Here is a picture of some bighorn sheep that I mentioned in my previous post.
May 16, 2002, 09:57 PM
May 16, 2002, 10:00 PM
One more. Pardon the quality, the Pahrump Caveman is running the camera.
May 16, 2002, 10:02 PM
That one in the middle has got good mass was how was his curl. Hard to see from that angle.:) :) :)
Sheep are just so darn majestic gives me goose bumps just to see them in the wild.
May 16, 2002, 10:09 PM
H&H, none of them were trophy animals, but like you say, seeing them in the wild is always a thrill. These pictures were taken directly East of Beatty Nevada; between Beatty and the Nevada Test Site.
To tie this in to a hot local (national ?) news topic. These sheep are very close to the proposed Yucca Mountain nuclear repository. This is where Washington has decided that those of us in Nevada can store the nations high level nuclear waste. After all, it is just a barren wasteland.
May 17, 2002, 08:51 AM
Being a NM native I can relate. Not only do we manufacture,design and modify most of the worlds nuclear weapons we are also home to one of the largest high level waste dumps in the world ,WIPP down south of Carlsbad NM. Also one of the premiere desert mule deer locations on the planet.:(
May 17, 2002, 09:15 AM
Well, nuke-junk a mile underground ain't gonna hurt critters up top. Dunno how much area is restricted by the feds, but I'd imagine it creates a sizable sanctuary. Drawback is, I guess, that the feds won't let folks go in and build/maintain guzzlers.
May 17, 2002, 09:17 AM
There is no end of speculation about the game animals on the test site and the gunnery ranges which have never been hunted. And there are no end to the stories from guys that work there about the huge deer located inside the fences. For those not familiar, these areas are the size of eastern states; totally off limits to anyone except the personel working there.
May 17, 2002, 09:22 AM
Art: The underground dump may or may not hurt the animals above. I guess it depends on how much leakage there is, and how much ground water contamination there is. And how big the facility is, how much terrain is disturbed in it's construction, how many roads will be built, how much traffic there is, how many personel will be working there etc. Of course the big issue we have as residents (in addition to the ones already mentioned) is the transportation of this high level waste to the repository. Obviously trucks loaded with this stuff are going to be on our nations highways and can easily be involved in an accident. Being a firefighter/paramedic, guess who is going to be called to these accidents ?
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