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July 20, 2019, 11:12 PM | #1 |
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Clermont County Fair Gun ban
So the Clermont County Fair Grounds in Ownesville Ohio is trying to ban citizens from being able to defend themselves at the county fair again this year.
I was there today to set up my vendor booth and brand new signs were placed at all the entry's and I was verbally told that I could not carry on the grounds this year. |
July 21, 2019, 12:18 AM | #2 |
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If there are signs posted, AND you were informed verbally, that sounds to me like they're doing a lot more than "trying" to ban guns.
I'm not from Ohio. Does Ohio have state preemption? Can the Clermont County Fair Grounds ban firearms? |
July 21, 2019, 02:41 PM | #3 |
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I didn’t know that there was a county fair in which guns were allowed, I guess I always erred on the side of caution.
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July 21, 2019, 02:49 PM | #4 |
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I believe Ohio courts have ruled that carry can be prohibited in some public buildings, but cannot be prohibited outside in public places. Would be worth checking. I do know that in previous years some Ohio county fairgrounds removed the signs in outdoor areas and from some buildings after being "educated" on state statutes and verdicts in applicable court cases.
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July 21, 2019, 06:43 PM | #5 |
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I think, Not for sure a WAG, Non profit are exempt ; ) PS In FLA they are
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July 24, 2019, 07:41 PM | #7 |
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On the Ohio Attorney General's website there is a section under concealed carry which has court rulings concerning the law. Several years ago some county tried to ban concealed carry from it's fairgrounds and someone filed suit to challenge them. The court ruled that they could not ban concealed carry from the fairgrounds but they could in the buildings on the grounds.
It has been a while since I looked this case and I do not remember which county was involved but it is not hard to find on the website. |
July 27, 2019, 06:14 AM | #8 |
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Actually, a mass emailing program to the sheriff (IIRC) resulted in the folks involved doing a bit of re-thinking.
Ohio has a serious preemption law on the books, . . . lawsuits were promised, . . . and they decided it was not worth the hassle. Yayyyy, . . . a win for the good guys. Also a big thumbs up and 10 points for the Buckeye Firearms Association which sent out the invitation to be a part of the answer by emailing the offenders, . . . not sure if they were the only ones . . . but whatever and however, . . . good guys won. May God bless, Dwight
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I only wish my state had preemption on firearms. I've had two attorneys tell me that we have "de facto" preemption, but you'd never know it by looking at various municipal ordinances from around the state. |
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Some years ago, Seattle passed a law more restrictive than the state law. Their lawyers told them they didn't have the legal authority to do so, but they went ahead and did it anyway. They got taken to court. They lost. The law was repealed. Didn't seem to matter much to the Seattle city council, after all, it was only taxpayer's money they wasted... Various municipal ordinances often violate state, or sometimes even Federal law, and remain on the books, UNTIL they lose a court challenge. Unless someone with "standing" and the wherewithal (funds) to bring a case to court, these things just slide on by.
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July 30, 2019, 01:01 AM | #11 |
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Here in TX we are able to carry in the public areas of the police station and they provide lockers for the non public areas.
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July 30, 2019, 03:27 PM | #12 |
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As the tragedy at the garlic festival in California has shown, seems pointless to make an open air type event a gun free zone without the security to back up the rule.
Saw a quote by the governor of California where he called the military style rifle weapons of mass destruction... I can’t directly quote him because there was foul language involved... Meaning, more restrictions to follow. |
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Ah, thought he was a CA resident...
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