this is not midnight cowboy

8shot357 · May 16, 2011, 08:12 AM

I'm going to drive with a buddy to CA from Las Vegas NV to San fransisco within hours in his car.

I'm taking a bus (greyhound) with out an CCW in minutes when I get there back to Veges.

No knifes, no pepper srays, no gun (REALY?) no zap guns.

Ok, I'm at a pen to poke there eyes out, but I'll be sued.

What else should I do, or what should I bring?

Skans · May 16, 2011, 09:43 AM

How about: Bow, Cross-Bow, roll of Quarters, Whip, expandable baton, sack full of batteries, straight razor, sling shot....

I try to stay in states that let me carry a gun. When I have to travel via airplane I leave my gun at home. It is what it is - don't know how else I can help you.

chadstrickland · May 16, 2011, 09:52 AM

Go get you a decent size master lock, six feet of 550 ( para cord )...that should be all you need..you can use the lock as brass knuckles or attach the 550 to it and you have a blunt mace...remember those are perfectly leagle to carry with you..however it is what you intend to do with them that could make them illegal...so I would keep the 550 and lock separated in two different pockets

8shot357 · May 16, 2011, 10:22 AM

I just called my buddy (USAF) and told him I'm driving (9:30am Specific) with him his German car to Hollywood/CA. He's moving to Guam for 2-3 years.
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I just called him a few hours ago inviting myself to tour the desert from Vegas to Las Angels. I'm taking the Greyhound back, hence the Midnight Cowboy theme. Wish me luck with no damned gun.

Thanks for the advise, see ya tomorrow.

By the way, can I carry hair spray, I mean pepper spray? I'm not going to even ask about a stun gun!

f-n Kali

Well, I have an hour to get an extra pair of underwear ready, and a role of toilet paper. Been there, it's been just 20 years though. See ya in Vegas.

8pages

8shot357 · May 16, 2011, 10:39 AM

No time to look up laws, but I'd like to bring the pepper spray. I don't mind them taking it from me, I just don't want to go to jail for it.

Getting in the shower, leaving soon.

FYI it 54*F high today, 61*F low tonight, and 54*F high tomorrow.

Onward Allusion · May 16, 2011, 10:49 AM

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8shot357
this is not midnight cowboy

Why no knife or pepper spray? Perfectly legal. Keep it at 3" or less and you will have nothing to worry about. Wear a Mag Lite, too. You'll be more than set...

Have fun in SF. BEAUTIFUL city & GREAT food.

moose_nukelz · May 16, 2011, 10:50 AM

Most over the counter pepper sprays are legal in California, unless it has some restrictions on the can like "LAW ENFORCEMENT ONLY" and you have to show some form of LE credentials to buy it you should be fine. Batons are a nice and easy way to get hooked for felony possession of a deadly weapon in this state.

davlandrum · May 16, 2011, 12:00 PM

You ain't going to Iraq - situational awareness is the most important tool and no one can take that away from you.

Skans · May 16, 2011, 12:52 PM

I've never been to Iraq.....nor San Francisco - they both seem just about as foreign to me. Maybe wearing flowers in your hair and a haze of marijuana smoke around you acts like Kevlar ballistic vest in SF? Do your research, and good luck.

JC57 · May 16, 2011, 01:05 PM

I've been to LA, San Diego, and San Francisco several times and never needed any sort of weaponry. I survived OK, you might too. Don't worry so much about it and just have a good time with your friend.

Eagle0711 · May 16, 2011, 01:19 PM

I vote for the knife. Just keep it hidden in your pocket. I'd carry a cheaper one in case they take it away.

Don't let the trouble maker see it. Keep it hidden in the reverse grip or under you opposite arm. Behind your led works well. Get close and.........

Buzzcook · May 16, 2011, 02:47 PM

Take a good book, maybe a magazine as well. Don't forget some snacks and drink. Wear comfortable clothing.

Oh and leave the paranoia at home.

markj · May 16, 2011, 03:03 PM

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Wish me luck with no damned gun

I belive 1 or 2 people have done this successfully.......

oneounceload · May 16, 2011, 03:38 PM

SF is a very nice city with VERY good food. Stay out of the one or two neighborhoods every city seems to have and you'll be fine

Don Glock · May 16, 2011, 03:42 PM

just bring a whistle to alert police if you're in danger

Doc TH · May 16, 2011, 08:40 PM

Carry a hickory cane. Legal everywhere for aid with your sore knee.

bigbaby · May 16, 2011, 08:47 PM

My advice, and I am not trying to be a smartass, is, if you are so concerned about a short trip without a weapon; STAY HOME!

Edward429451 · May 16, 2011, 08:55 PM

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I belive 1 or 2 people have done this successfully.......

It's only one. The one gent received a very stern look from an irate woman, so the vpc classified it as a failure.

markj · May 17, 2011, 04:28 PM

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The one gent received a very stern look from an irate woman, so the vpc classified it as a failure

OK I was wrong, one guy has done this successfully

so now is his chance to make it two....

Get a spray bottle like the corner window washer dudes use. Fill it wit hwater and epson salts make sure the sals get dissolved. Use this on anyone gets after you in the eyes. You will have plenty of time to get away.

I carried a squirt gun like that when I went to school in a bad part of town in 7th grade. Usedd it on a guy wanted my lunch money, he is still howling....was 45 years ago...

Doc Intrepid · May 17, 2011, 04:45 PM

I'm with the other Doc --

Go to Walgreens or CVS or Rite Aid.

Get yourself a thick heavy hardwood (not aluminum) cane for that hurt knee of yours.

Perfectly legal.

Then avoid problems...and enjoy the ride!

Best with it...

tgreening · May 17, 2011, 11:04 PM

Enjoy the ride? Man I take it you've never taken the Greyhound from LA to Vegas. I did that once. Once.... Took almost 13 freakin hours because we had to stop every quarter freakin mile to pick up some desert dweller (think The Hills have Eyes kind of people). I would have rather hitch hiked.

8shot357 · May 17, 2011, 11:33 PM

Long story short, I made it back driving his old 1981 Mercedes turbo diesel with 358,000 miles back to Vegas with an unused Greyhound ticket from Compton, CA (LA?). I thought he said San Fran, but it turned out to be LA.

I'm mad, because I left some freshly made tortilla's at the Hotel. The only thing that I was concerned with after he finished his first six pack at the Motel was, he wanted to walk to the liquor store for some more beer late at night on Long Beach wearing a Polo shirt with his nice Air Force hair cut. I loved the bullet proof cashier cage, nice visual effect. At least I remembered ice this time, I hate warm Bourbon.

PS: Hookers on just about every corner, even some in the morning (8am) rain driving him to LAX to be shipped out to Guam. Still never been on a Greyhound yet.

PS, PS: I brought a shank, a 3" shank, a #2 screw driver. Honest!

BlueTrain · May 18, 2011, 06:00 AM

Travel at night, avoid major highways, don't stay in the same place twice.

gearhounds · May 18, 2011, 08:50 AM

Make sure not to call and tell your mom where you are; that way the terminator will have a harder time finding you.

bigbaby · May 18, 2011, 09:37 AM

Just stay home with your twelve gauge or machine gun or whatever it is that gives you that secure feeling. You will be bored , but well protected.

May 16, 2011, 08:12 AM	#1
8shot357 Junior member Join Date: September 7, 2010 Posts: 1,740	this is not midnight cowboy I'm going to drive with a buddy to CA from Las Vegas NV to San fransisco within hours in his car. I'm taking a bus (greyhound) with out an CCW in minutes when I get there back to Veges. No knifes, no pepper srays, no gun (REALY?) no zap guns. Ok, I'm at a pen to poke there eyes out, but I'll be sued. What else should I do, or what should I bring?

May 16, 2011, 09:52 AM	#3
chadstrickland Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2011 Location: alabama Posts: 537	Go get you a decent size master lock, six feet of 550 ( para cord )...that should be all you need..you can use the lock as brass knuckles or attach the 550 to it and you have a blunt mace...remember those are perfectly leagle to carry with you..however it is what you intend to do with them that could make them illegal...so I would keep the 550 and lock separated in two different pockets __________________ Two weapons that was designed by the same man still in use by the us military 100 years later...1911 and m2...is there anything that comes close.....lol annd maybe perhaps a sig sauer p226 tac ops edition..

May 16, 2011, 10:22 AM	#4
8shot357 Junior member Join Date: September 7, 2010 Posts: 1,740	This is not a drill I just called my buddy (USAF) and told him I'm driving (9:30am Specific) with him his German car to Hollywood/CA. He's moving to Guam for 2-3 years. --- I just called him a few hours ago inviting myself to tour the desert from Vegas to Las Angels. I'm taking the Greyhound back, hence the Midnight Cowboy theme. Wish me luck with no damned gun. Thanks for the advise, see ya tomorrow. By the way, can I carry hair spray, I mean pepper spray? I'm not going to even ask about a stun gun! f-n Kali Well, I have an hour to get an extra pair of underwear ready, and a role of toilet paper. Been there, it's been just 20 years though. See ya in Vegas. 8pages

May 16, 2011, 10:50 AM	#7
moose_nukelz Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2011 Posts: 125	Most over the counter pepper sprays are legal in California, unless it has some restrictions on the can like "LAW ENFORCEMENT ONLY" and you have to show some form of LE credentials to buy it you should be fine. Batons are a nice and easy way to get hooked for felony possession of a deadly weapon in this state. __________________ Bust em

May 16, 2011, 12:00 PM	#8
davlandrum Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2006 Location: Lane County Oregon Posts: 2,547	You ain't going to Iraq - situational awareness is the most important tool and no one can take that away from you. __________________ U.S Army, Retired Ethics is knowing the difference between what you have a right to do and what is right to do. -Potter Stewart

May 16, 2011, 09:43 AM	#2
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	How about: Bow, Cross-Bow, roll of Quarters, Whip, expandable baton, sack full of batteries, straight razor, sling shot.... I try to stay in states that let me carry a gun. When I have to travel via airplane I leave my gun at home. It is what it is - don't know how else I can help you.

May 16, 2011, 10:39 AM	#5
8shot357 Junior member Join Date: September 7, 2010 Posts: 1,740	No time to look up laws, but I'd like to bring the pepper spray. I don't mind them taking it from me, I just don't want to go to jail for it. Getting in the shower, leaving soon. FYI it 54F high today, 61F low tonight, and 54*F high tomorrow.

May 16, 2011, 12:52 PM	#9
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	I've never been to Iraq.....nor San Francisco - they both seem just about as foreign to me. Maybe wearing flowers in your hair and a haze of marijuana smoke around you acts like Kevlar ballistic vest in SF? Do your research, and good luck.

May 16, 2011, 01:05 PM	#10
JC57 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2010 Posts: 375	I've been to LA, San Diego, and San Francisco several times and never needed any sort of weaponry. I survived OK, you might too. Don't worry so much about it and just have a good time with your friend.

May 16, 2011, 01:19 PM	#11
Eagle0711 Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2010 Posts: 782	I vote for the knife. Just keep it hidden in your pocket. I'd carry a cheaper one in case they take it away. Don't let the trouble maker see it. Keep it hidden in the reverse grip or under you opposite arm. Behind your led works well. Get close and.........

May 16, 2011, 02:47 PM	#12
Buzzcook Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 6,126	Take a good book, maybe a magazine as well. Don't forget some snacks and drink. Wear comfortable clothing. Oh and leave the paranoia at home.

May 16, 2011, 03:38 PM	#14
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	SF is a very nice city with VERY good food. Stay out of the one or two neighborhoods every city seems to have and you'll be fine

May 16, 2011, 03:42 PM	#15
Don Glock Junior member Join Date: September 16, 2010 Posts: 1,141	just bring a whistle to alert police if you're in danger

May 16, 2011, 08:40 PM	#16
Doc TH Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2005 Posts: 633	travel Carry a hickory cane. Legal everywhere for aid with your sore knee.

May 16, 2011, 08:47 PM	#17
bigbaby Member Join Date: May 11, 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 79	My advice, and I am not trying to be a smartass, is, if you are so concerned about a short trip without a weapon; STAY HOME! __________________ "Do I preach to you when you are laying stoned in the gutter? No. Now beat it!" Futurama

May 17, 2011, 04:45 PM	#20
Doc Intrepid Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2009 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,037	I'm with the other Doc -- Go to Walgreens or CVS or Rite Aid. Get yourself a thick heavy hardwood (not aluminum) cane for that hurt knee of yours. Perfectly legal. Then avoid problems...and enjoy the ride! Best with it... __________________ *Treat everyone you meet with dignity and respect....but have a plan to kill them just in case.*

May 17, 2011, 11:04 PM	#21
tgreening Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2011 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 251	Enjoy the ride? Man I take it you've never taken the Greyhound from LA to Vegas. I did that once. Once.... Took almost 13 freakin hours because we had to stop every quarter freakin mile to pick up some desert dweller (think The Hills have Eyes kind of people). I would have rather hitch hiked.

May 18, 2011, 06:00 AM	#23
BlueTrain Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2005 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 6,141	Travel at night, avoid major highways, don't stay in the same place twice. __________________ Shoot low, sheriff. They're riding Shetlands! Underneath the starry flag, civilize 'em with a Krag, and return us to our own beloved homes! Buy War Bonds.

May 18, 2011, 08:50 AM	#24
gearhounds Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2011 Location: M'burg WV Posts: 332	Make sure not to call and tell your mom where you are; that way the terminator will have a harder time finding you. __________________ Busting thugs since 1992

May 18, 2011, 09:37 AM	#25
bigbaby Member Join Date: May 11, 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 79	Just stay home with your twelve gauge or machine gun or whatever it is that gives you that secure feeling. You will be bored , but well protected. __________________ "Do I preach to you when you are laying stoned in the gutter? No. Now beat it!" Futurama Last edited by bigbaby; May 18, 2011 at 12:11 PM.