Hog Hunting with M1A Scout/Aimpoint?

uastudent12 · September 2, 2009, 02:03 PM

Recently purchased an M1A scout, and hope to go hog hunting with it soon. I've considered getting an Aimpoint Comp3 to mount on the forward rail, and was wondering if anyone had experience with this setup? Is lack of magnification an issue in the 200 yds range?

I've never used an aimpoint so I'd be interested to hear from those who had used it hunting and the pros/cons. Thanks.

hogdogs · September 2, 2009, 02:19 PM

For me I would need a set of binos to see the hog in the first place and a 9+ power scope to hit it... But is poor eyes...

that is a .308? If so, will you be head/neck shooting only?
Brent

ADB · September 2, 2009, 04:37 PM

Yes, the M1As are all .308.

zoomie · September 2, 2009, 04:48 PM

I have a CompC3 on one rifle. I think making kill shots in the vitals at 200 would be possible. I do not think you could place shots with "behind the ear" precision. Get the 2MOA instead of the 4MOA model, at least.

hogdogs · September 2, 2009, 05:01 PM

Your vital zone that lacks this shield is very small... This is a full size center fire round. I will ask what caliber later.
Penetrating this is very difficult.
If you want to see some links to the hog vitals, lemme know I will look them up.
Brent

comn-cents · September 2, 2009, 05:19 PM

Yes, the M1As are all .308. except the one's in 243 & 7mm08

ADB · September 2, 2009, 05:27 PM

You're right, I was thinking all the factory M1As. Small shop, gunsmith, or custom jobs excepted.

comn-cents · September 2, 2009, 05:34 PM

Factory made 243 & 7mm08

emcon5 · September 2, 2009, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Factory made 243 & 7mm08

You mean the ones Springfield Armory used to make, but quit because nobody bought them?

Or are you referring to something currently available. If so, how about you post some useful information instead of being cryptic with your vast obscure M1A knowledge.

comn-cents · September 2, 2009, 06:40 PM

I think Factory means from Springfield. It was posted that all
m1a's are.308. I was just mentioning that is not a true statment. I really don't care if they only sold one of them, they still made them. Do you have a point?

Old Grump · September 2, 2009, 08:03 PM

Back on topic here the question was is the lack of magnification going to be a factor at 200 yards. Not what caliber he was shooting and all 3 calibers will do the job.

My 2 pesos is yes it would be an issue for anybody without 20-20 vision and a lot of rounds at 200 yards with that gun. Doable, yes but I would want to move up about a hundred yards to make sure of a killing shot. 60 yards or less is a more likely shot so it shouldn't become a factor.

amprecon · September 2, 2009, 09:19 PM

I looked hard at that setup after I already had my rifles. I still feel the setup you have or are looking at would be the ultimate. I love the Aimpoint red dot sights and a hunting experience motivated me to seek them out. I have a 2X 1moa CompC3 on my M1 Garand and a CompC3 2moa on my SLR-95. But I have given much thought to getting a M1A Scout and putting an Aimpoint on it too.

LoneStarWings · September 2, 2009, 10:01 PM

Personally I'd go with a pistol scope like the 2-7x with red dot from burris for 200 yard shots. 7x magnification will really help on a shot at that distance.

hogdogs · September 2, 2009, 10:10 PM

A pistol scope would have to be mounted "scout" style due to the extended eye relief...
If there is a 2-12, I would consider it good as close in shots are possible. Folks who are able to bag a hog on a stalk style gun hunt are severely outnumbered by those who never see a pig. This said, chances are better at a long distance shot than pounding the swamps in hopes of shooting one at 25-50 paces.

bswiv may be of help as will a few others on here. I personally see a few in and around crop fields but have seen only a hand full of shooters while out without the dogs rustling them up. Their nose is a ton better than a deer and their hearing ain't far behind their nose in ability to bust you hard.
Brent

bswiv · September 3, 2009, 05:30 AM

We've used various Red Dot sights for about 15 years. Have 6 of them on everything from a single shot .243 to a O/U 45/70 and a couple of rifled 20 ga.

Just last week I shifted a more traditional Red Dot set up on my old .35 Rem to the same basic Scout set up you are contemplating. I don't have a picture ready but what I used is the H-1 Micro

http://www.aimpoint.com/products/aim...oint_micro_h-1

set just in front of the reciever. Points VERY naturally.

For close in hunting such as we do in our thick woods and swamps here in NE FL they are just the ticket. As we never set up on large fields ( In fact in the last 10 years or so we've taken only a couple of animals over 40 yards, the vast majority under 25. ) I can't give a good opinion of how they would perform at 200 yards. You would for sure have some issues getting the fine tuning of sighting in done as the 4 min dot would cover 8 inches at 200 yards.

Of course my responce to seing a hog at 200 yards would be to get down wind and go to him. But then we're Bar-B-Q hunting and not doing the hard work of controling hogs doing damage to crops. In that situation you may want, and need, to do a lot of long range shooting. If that's the case then something with magnification might be better............

September 2, 2009, 02:03 PM	#1
uastudent12 Junior Member Join Date: May 27, 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 5	Hog Hunting with M1A Scout/Aimpoint? Recently purchased an M1A scout, and hope to go hog hunting with it soon. I've considered getting an Aimpoint Comp3 to mount on the forward rail, and was wondering if anyone had experience with this setup? Is lack of magnification an issue in the 200 yds range? I've never used an aimpoint so I'd be interested to hear from those who had used it hunting and the pros/cons. Thanks.

September 2, 2009, 05:19 PM	#6
comn-cents Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2008 Location: Pac.N.W. Posts: 1,804	*Yes, the M1As are all .308.* except the one's in 243 & 7mm08 __________________ Be Smarter Than A Bore-Snake!

September 2, 2009, 05:34 PM	#8
comn-cents Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2008 Location: Pac.N.W. Posts: 1,804	*Factory* made 243 & 7mm08 __________________ Be Smarter Than A Bore-Snake!

September 2, 2009, 06:40 PM	#10
comn-cents Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2008 Location: Pac.N.W. Posts: 1,804	I think Factory means from Springfield. It was posted that all m1a's are.308. I was just mentioning that is not a true statment. I really don't care if they only sold one of them, they still made them. Do you have a point? __________________ Be Smarter Than A Bore-Snake!

September 2, 2009, 08:03 PM	#11
Old Grump Member in memoriam Join Date: April 9, 2009 Location: Blue River Wisconsin, in Posts: 3,144	Back on topic here the question was is the lack of magnification going to be a factor at 200 yards. Not what caliber he was shooting and all 3 calibers will do the job. My 2 pesos is yes it would be an issue for anybody without 20-20 vision and a lot of rounds at 200 yards with that gun. Doable, yes but I would want to move up about a hundred yards to make sure of a killing shot. 60 yards or less is a more likely shot so it shouldn't become a factor. __________________ Good intentions will always be pleaded for any assumption of power. The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern will, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. --Daniel Webster--

September 2, 2009, 02:19 PM	#2
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	For me I would need a set of binos to see the hog in the first place and a 9+ power scope to hit it... But is poor eyes... that is a .308? If so, will you be head/neck shooting only? Brent

September 2, 2009, 04:37 PM	#3
ADB Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2009 Posts: 399	Yes, the M1As are all .308.

September 2, 2009, 04:48 PM	#4
zoomie Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2006 Location: GA Posts: 1,862	I have a CompC3 on one rifle. I think making kill shots in the vitals at 200 would be possible. I do not think you could place shots with "behind the ear" precision. Get the 2MOA instead of the 4MOA model, at least.

September 2, 2009, 05:01 PM	#5
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Your vital zone that lacks this shield is very small... This is a full size center fire round. I will ask what caliber later. Penetrating this is very difficult. If you want to see some links to the hog vitals, lemme know I will look them up. Brent

September 2, 2009, 05:27 PM	#7
ADB Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2009 Posts: 399	You're right, I was thinking all the factory M1As. Small shop, gunsmith, or custom jobs excepted.

September 2, 2009, 09:19 PM	#12
amprecon Senior Member Join Date: November 5, 1999 Location: TN Posts: 786	I looked hard at that setup after I already had my rifles. I still feel the setup you have or are looking at would be the ultimate. I love the Aimpoint red dot sights and a hunting experience motivated me to seek them out. I have a 2X 1moa CompC3 on my M1 Garand and a CompC3 2moa on my SLR-95. But I have given much thought to getting a M1A Scout and putting an Aimpoint on it too.

September 2, 2009, 10:01 PM	#13
LoneStarWings Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2009 Location: TX Posts: 213	Personally I'd go with a pistol scope like the 2-7x with red dot from burris for 200 yard shots. 7x magnification will really help on a shot at that distance.

September 2, 2009, 10:10 PM	#14
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	A pistol scope would have to be mounted "scout" style due to the extended eye relief... If there is a 2-12, I would consider it good as close in shots are possible. Folks who are able to bag a hog on a stalk style gun hunt are severely outnumbered by those who never see a pig. This said, chances are better at a long distance shot than pounding the swamps in hopes of shooting one at 25-50 paces. bswiv may be of help as will a few others on here. I personally see a few in and around crop fields but have seen only a hand full of shooters while out without the dogs rustling them up. Their nose is a ton better than a deer and their hearing ain't far behind their nose in ability to bust you hard. Brent

September 3, 2009, 05:30 AM	#15
bswiv Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2006 Location: NE FL....... Posts: 1,081	We've used various Red Dot sights for about 15 years. Have 6 of them on everything from a single shot .243 to a O/U 45/70 and a couple of rifled 20 ga. Just last week I shifted a more traditional Red Dot set up on my old .35 Rem to the same basic Scout set up you are contemplating. I don't have a picture ready but what I used is the H-1 Micro http://www.aimpoint.com/products/aim...oint_micro_h-1 set just in front of the reciever. Points VERY naturally. For close in hunting such as we do in our thick woods and swamps here in NE FL they are just the ticket. As we never set up on large fields ( In fact in the last 10 years or so we've taken only a couple of animals over 40 yards, the vast majority under 25. ) I can't give a good opinion of how they would perform at 200 yards. You would for sure have some issues getting the fine tuning of sighting in done as the 4 min dot would cover 8 inches at 200 yards. Of course my responce to seing a hog at 200 yards would be to get down wind and go to him. But then we're Bar-B-Q hunting and not doing the hard work of controling hogs doing damage to crops. In that situation you may want, and need, to do a lot of long range shooting. If that's the case then something with magnification might be better............