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Old August 13, 2009, 11:41 AM   #1
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Have you learned any lessons from watching "The First 48"

It's one of my favorite shows on TV. While it's not a tactical show in the traditional sense, I've found it educational to see how choices people make lead them to bad things, and how if they had chosen differently they wouldn't be put in that situation. It's almost "pre-tactical" - you think tactically about what you're doing before you end up in a bad situation.

Off the top of my head:

1. Be very careful where you chose to go. That cool nightspot in the bad part of town? Probably not the safest place to hang out. The club might have security, and the space immediately around it might appear safe, but just a block or two away can be a place you don't want to be alone at night.

2. Be very careful not just who your associate with, but be careful of the people that the people you associate with associate with. Your friend may be great, but when he brings along his childhood buddy who is a chronic troublemaker with a chip on his shoulder, your day isn't going to get any better. You may just want to call it a night early.

3. When you walk away from a confrontation, don't turn your back until the other guy is out of sight. Thugs don't have any qualms about shooting you in the back.

4. When you have a confrontation with a lowlife who knows who you are or where you live, be on guard for awhile. They have nothing better to do than hold a grudge.
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Old August 13, 2009, 10:34 PM   #2
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I would have to agree with you on those thoughts, my mother watches that show a lot and I have noticed between that show and others on murder, the gun is usually a .380, or a .38... and ofcourse these are bad guys that usually dont have practice or training and they still kill... that says alot about killing power...

also, I would say that you may not expect who is going to shoot... there have been alot of suspects on there that have commited more crimes than the one that actually killed the person. not always ofcourse...
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Old August 13, 2009, 11:12 PM   #3
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Old August 13, 2009, 11:52 PM   #4
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love that show and crime 360. Lesson: If you can't carry a cop, carry a gun
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Old August 13, 2009, 11:52 PM   #5
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Old August 14, 2009, 12:58 AM   #6
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Love that show(First 48). Crime360 also, as a matter or fact I am getting ready to watch Crime360 right now.
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Old August 14, 2009, 03:16 AM   #7
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Lesson 1

Move away from Memphis.
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Old August 14, 2009, 05:44 AM   #8
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My wife watches ALL those shows, First 48, Forensic Files, COPS, etc, wonder if she's getting an education on how to get rid of me...
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Old August 14, 2009, 06:35 AM   #9
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I have learned that these officers are professional interrogators and they get awful mad when the person they are questioning asks for a lawyer.
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Old August 14, 2009, 07:04 AM   #10
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Never seen it, but sounds interesting.

ANd here I thought you meant the first 48 hours MOVIE Where .44 mags and 1911's ruled
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Old August 14, 2009, 08:26 AM   #11
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If I ever commit a crime A) Don't tell anyone about it & B) Lawyer up immediately so I don't make any statements that can later be torn apart by the police.
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Old August 14, 2009, 09:49 AM   #12
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It's a great show. So is Crime 360. Thing I have noticed:

1. Most of the crimes are pretty stupid. Even if the perp was never caught, there is little gained

2. Your friends and the people they associate with can get you killed.

3. Drugs and alchohol are usually involved.

4. Being an innocent person just minding your own business will not keep you from becoming a victim.

5. The 'where you are' can get you killed just as quickly as the 'who you are with'.
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Old August 14, 2009, 02:02 PM   #13
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Never seen it, but sounds interesting.
You can watch episodes an A&E's web site. There's always at least one posted there. Sometimes there are several episodes to watch online.

Most of the cops are pretty straight forward. There have been some that are overly dramatic with their rhetoric, but the tone of the show evens that out.
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Old August 14, 2009, 02:06 PM   #14
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I'm always fascinated at the little "tricks" that the cops use to get people to confess or say things they normally wouldn't. Good show, but it just reinforces "get a lawyer FIRST" for me.
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Old August 14, 2009, 02:13 PM   #15
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The "Cold Case Files" and "The First 48" are the only shows worth watching on TV anymore, IMHO, of course.
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Yes, Kazanski, you are right. The cops are NOT friends of the innocent.
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Old August 14, 2009, 02:16 PM   #17
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+1 always get a lawyer. If you not under arrest walk out if they arrest you get a lawyer and dont say a word.
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Old August 14, 2009, 02:33 PM   #18
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I love the show, one of my favorites. Shut up and get a lawyer. Most of these guys bury themselves in the first few minutes of there interrogation.
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Old August 14, 2009, 04:28 PM   #19
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Being an innocent person just minding your own business will not keep you from becoming a victim.
Might actualy invite the crime if you don't keep your head up. Criminals look for those who are 'minding their own business' and so pre-occupied they have no idea what is going on around them.

Yes, just going out to the local gas-station store can end up with you dead. So stay off the cell phones, stop daydreaming, and keep yourself in the here-and-now.
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Old August 15, 2009, 01:17 AM   #20
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"the cops are not friends of the innocent." WT*. A statement like this just re-enforces the reason why I hardly ever go into the tactics and training forum anymore. There is some good and helpful info that can come from this section as in this question as well. It just seems half the people that post in this section on a regular basis are always just looking for opportunity to take a jab at law enforcement. Love it or leave it

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Old August 15, 2009, 07:17 AM   #21
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LoL, Yeah, Stay out of Memphis! Seriously, we where heading down to the casinos and where thinking about taking a side trip to see the sights in Memphis. We got lost and ended up in a neighborhood I swear I saw on 48 hours. We left and decided we had seen enough of the sights on Memphis.
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Old August 16, 2009, 12:16 AM   #22
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For the record trooper3385, I believe they are detectives which makes them different from "cops"... The detectives they are talking about DO seem to be very aggressive to these suspects which are considered "innocent" in order to get information... Context matters...
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Old August 16, 2009, 09:48 AM   #23
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I'm a former cop (10 years on patrol), and find "The First 48" to be pretty well done. I would stand up for the city of Memphis, as wherever you live you can find locations near you that will make your eyes pop out. No matter how nice your little corner of the world, if you make a wrong turn you can find yourself in a nice little nightmare; especially if you are somewhere you should not be, doing something you should not be doing. And yes, if you are taken into custody, your interrogation will be enthusiastic, especially if and until the cops have some sensible idea of what has occurred. I've been arrested three times since retiring from the force, no charges filed on all occasions. I have a tendency to defend myself enthusiastically when it is necessary, so getting arrested is easy. The DA finding a way to make it stick is a bit harder. My advice is to not resist arrest in any way, say nothing other than to identify yourself. I've not had any problem contacting a lawyer, probably because I know a good criminal lawyer, and more importantly, he knows me as being someone good for paying my retainer. Then it's just a matter of waiting for either an arrainment, or being released. In the one instance I spent five days in the County Jail awaiting my time with the Judge, but never saw him as no charges had been pressed. I was back home in 10 hours. The justice system does work slowly, but it does work.

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The truth hurts, doesn't it, Trooper 3385?
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