Western Field ser. no. search

seabeescotty · November 10, 2007, 08:41 AM

I have an old 30-30 levergun that appears to be a Marlin 336 in all but name. Iknow it's an older rifle because it lacks the cross-bolt safety feature of the newer rifles. I'd like to find out just how old it is. Any suggestions? Seabeescotty

fal308 · November 10, 2007, 12:26 PM

What markings and names are on it? Without any information I'd say offhand it is a Western Field.
Many major manufacturers used to make firearms for other companies. They would brand stamp whatever the contracting company wanted.

Scorch · November 10, 2007, 01:54 PM

Western Field lever actions were made by Mossberg. They kinda look like a Marlin until you compare them side by side. They are an OK gun.

elrod · November 10, 2007, 05:00 PM

You indicate in your OP that the rifle is, indeed, a Western Field brand. This is a store brand of Montgomery Ward. Many of these guns were manfactured by Mossberg and were private labels of their models 472 and 479. Other 30-30 lever guns sold under the WF brand were manfactured by Noble, Savage, and Marlin. To know for sure, the model number must be known. I had a WF 30-30 that was unique insomuch as the trigger traveled with the lever when the action was opened. That rifle was a model 72 manfactured by Noble.
As a side note, these guns are generally worth 15-40% less than the respective manfacturers' model.

nfmMike · October 1, 2009, 05:17 PM

I also have aquired a WF 30-30 and the trigger stays with the lever as you cycle it. Why can't I find any references to Noble in any WWW search? Does anyone know anything about hte Noble company?

I did read on another forum that the 20" barrel WF was only made in 1972 - anyone know any truth to that?

RJay · October 1, 2009, 07:06 PM

Nobel, Haydenville, Massachusetts. In business 1946 to 1971, Firearms built were plain Jane utilitarian type guns. Many were sold under " Brand Names". Value in excellent condition is around 150-175. Why couldn't you find information on Nobel on the WWW, because the net is not the source of all information. The web pages have helped a lot of new gun owners, but there is a tremendous amount of information that is not on the web. Your rifle was made just before they folded so I would date it around 1969/70. Hope that helps

By the way, since they ceased business in 1971 I doubt your 20 inch barrel was made in 1972

November 10, 2007, 08:41 AM	#1
seabeescotty Junior Member Join Date: November 4, 2007 Location: I live on 25 acres in rural northeastern Oklahoma. I moved here two years ago , to get away from the craziness in California. My second amendment rights were being stomped into the ground out there. Posts: 6	Western Field ser. no. search I have an old 30-30 levergun that appears to be a Marlin 336 in all but name. Iknow it's an older rifle because it lacks the cross-bolt safety feature of the newer rifles. I'd like to find out just how old it is. Any suggestions? Seabeescotty

November 10, 2007, 01:54 PM	#3
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	Western Field lever actions were made by Mossberg. They kinda look like a Marlin until you compare them side by side. They are an OK gun. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

November 10, 2007, 05:00 PM	#4
elrod Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2007 Location: Heart of the heart of Dixie Posts: 234	You indicate in your OP that the rifle is, indeed, a Western Field brand. This is a store brand of Montgomery Ward. Many of these guns were manfactured by Mossberg and were private labels of their models 472 and 479. Other 30-30 lever guns sold under the WF brand were manfactured by Noble, Savage, and Marlin. To know for sure, the model number must be known. I had a WF 30-30 that was unique insomuch as the trigger traveled with the lever when the action was opened. That rifle was a model 72 manfactured by Noble. As a side note, these guns are generally worth 15-40% less than the respective manfacturers' model. __________________ Freedom ain't free!

October 1, 2009, 05:17 PM	#5
nfmMike Junior Member Join Date: June 6, 2004 Location: High Point,NC Posts: 5	Bringing up the old... I also have aquired a WF 30-30 and the trigger stays with the lever as you cycle it. Why can't I find any references to Noble in any WWW search? Does anyone know anything about hte Noble company? I did read on another forum that the 20" barrel WF was only made in 1972 - anyone know any truth to that? __________________ Semper Fi! Mike Veteran, NRA member "No arsenal or no weapon in the arsenals of the world is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women."- Ronald Reagan

October 1, 2009, 07:06 PM	#6
RJay Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,936	Nobel, Haydenville, Massachusetts. In business 1946 to 1971, Firearms built were plain Jane utilitarian type guns. Many were sold under " Brand Names". Value in excellent condition is around 150-175. Why couldn't you find information on Nobel on the WWW, because the net is not the source of all information. The web pages have helped a lot of new gun owners, but there is a tremendous amount of information that is not on the web. Your rifle was made just before they folded so I would date it around 1969/70. Hope that helps By the way, since they ceased business in 1971 I doubt your 20 inch barrel was made in 1972 Last edited by RJay; October 1, 2009 at 07:12 PM.

November 10, 2007, 12:26 PM	#2
fal308 Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 12, 1998 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,992	What markings and names are on it? Without any information I'd say offhand it is a Western Field. Many major manufacturers used to make firearms for other companies. They would brand stamp whatever the contracting company wanted.