Choose my next 45

Velocity226 · September 10, 2005, 08:16 PM

I have narrowed it down to these two.

Which one and why?

JMag · September 10, 2005, 08:37 PM

The Sig; I'm not big on polymer .45s.

Half-Price Assassin · September 10, 2005, 09:02 PM

i say HK USP .45! why? cause i love more bullets! 8 rounds is nothing, i need around 12. Sig is good, you should include the GLOCK 21 (if your hands are big enough). but it doesnt really matter, cause no matter what you pick your going to have an awesome gun! thank the Lord its not another piece of CRAP 1911!

but personally i like HK pistols, so i am bias!

tex45acp · September 10, 2005, 09:21 PM

Since you are obviously looking for a DA/SA style handgun in 45acp., buy the SIG P220.

I had a P220ST that I carried for about a year and it never once caused me any problems. I originally purchased it to qualify for my Concealed Handgun License. I easily shot 250 out of a possible 250. The gun shot better that any gun I had shot up till I traded it for a new Wilson 1911 style gun I had been wanting for quite some time. I really like the decocking device for hammer down carry of a non-1911 style guns. Some folks do not like the DA/SA combination. I have heard it can be confusing in a stress situation. Obviously one of the largest state trooper organizations in the US does not see it that way. The Texas Departmant of Public Safety issues SIG's to all state troopers as their service side arm.
Buy the SIG......you wont be disappointed!!!

guardsman012301 · September 10, 2005, 09:26 PM

I love my HK USP .45 Tac. I've owned several .45's Glock, Ruger, CZ, and now an HK. From my experience the HK was the best .45 I've used, and they are very accurate. Granted you do pay some extra cash for the HK name, but it's worth it.

MoW · September 10, 2005, 09:31 PM

No question the P220. If it weren't for getting a SS in the SIG then the choice would be closer but in SS the P220 gets the edge. The difference in recoil could be noticeable for you.

Detective_Special · September 10, 2005, 09:46 PM

I prefer the USP 45 for a number of reasons, but mainly I really like the double stack mags vs the single stack. The frame mounted lever is one of the best in terms of location and function and with many options; decocker, cocked and locked, hammer down safety off, and hammer down safety on.

harbinger · September 10, 2005, 10:01 PM

P220, because it's next in these back and forth answers.

Velocity226 · September 11, 2005, 02:03 PM

Quote:

No question the P220. If it weren't for getting a SS in the SIG then the choice would be closer but in SS the P220 gets the edge. The difference in recoil could be noticeable for you.

I guess the SS would have lower recoil due to the extra weight, but the USP has a recoil reduction system

Gixerman1000 · September 11, 2005, 02:34 PM

Just pick the one you like the most, I own a USP45 Tactical, a P220 and a P220ST, all three are awesome shooters.

Black Majik · September 11, 2005, 03:28 PM

I like the features of the HK USP more (cond. 1 and/or DA/SA) but shootability and comfort, the SIG 220 is a lot better for me.

Both are great, but the slight edge goes to the SIG 220. pistol for pistol.

zzirg · September 11, 2005, 03:33 PM

buy the new september 05 limited p220,it has extended contols,sport grip and has an adjustable rear site and its in stainless also comes with the fiber optic front site msrp is 1007.00 its worth it.very nice gun!!

michael t · September 11, 2005, 03:35 PM

Where the Colt selection The 45acp= Auto Colt Pistol. Doesn't say 45 sig or 45 hk .

.357SIG · September 11, 2005, 04:01 PM

I have both a SIG P220ST and a USP .45. My friend has a plain SIG P220 and I use it very often. I prefer the HK USP over the SIG, but feel variety is the spice of life. Recoil is managed well in all three and all three are very accurate. The two features that put the HK over for me are:
-4 to 5 round increased capacity (12 in the USP vs. 7 or 8 in the SIG).
-Ability to carry in cocked and locked mode, like a 1911.

Other than this, both guns are pretty darn close in size and grip sizes. Grip goes slightly to the HK for me because trigger reach is easier, but it's not bad on the SIG either.

IM_Lugger · September 11, 2005, 04:20 PM

SIG p220 for sure, or even better p226 in 9mm or .40

pyrotechnic · September 11, 2005, 07:39 PM

I'll recommend the USP45. I love mine. Shot a sig 220 once and liked it, but for me there is no comparison.

Regards,
Maarten

hkg3 · September 11, 2005, 09:49 PM

I personally don’t own a USP, however I have several friends that do. They love em’. For under $1000 you can’t go wrong. HK quality is second to none. I can’t comment on the Sig, I don’t know anyone with one. Although I do think the Sig has nicer lines than the HK.

Personally I’m a 1911 fan, but if your budget is under 1K then I would go with the HK. A custom built 1911 is easily $2000-$3000.

View Poll Results: Pick one
Sigarms P220 Stainless	23	52.27%
HK USP 45 Full Size	21	47.73%
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September 10, 2005, 08:16 PM	#1
Velocity226 Member Join Date: August 25, 2005 Posts: 50	Choose my next 45 I have narrowed it down to these two. Which one and why?

September 10, 2005, 09:02 PM	#3
Half-Price Assassin Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2005 Location: Oh Posts: 602	Hk! i say HK USP .45! why? cause i love more bullets! 8 rounds is nothing, i need around 12. Sig is good, you should include the GLOCK 21 (if your hands are big enough). but it doesnt really matter, cause no matter what you pick your going to have an awesome gun! thank the Lord its not another piece of CRAP 1911! but personally i like HK pistols, so i am bias! __________________ Bernhard Goetz Real American Hero HK Marketing Department's new slogan "HK. Because you suck. And we HATE you"

September 10, 2005, 09:21 PM	#4
tex45acp Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2005 Location: The Great State of Texas Posts: 1,032	Since you are obviously looking for a DA/SA style handgun in 45acp., buy the SIG P220. I had a P220ST that I carried for about a year and it never once caused me any problems. I originally purchased it to qualify for my Concealed Handgun License. I easily shot 250 out of a possible 250. The gun shot better that any gun I had shot up till I traded it for a new Wilson 1911 style gun I had been wanting for quite some time. I really like the decocking device for hammer down carry of a non-1911 style guns. Some folks do not like the DA/SA combination. I have heard it can be confusing in a stress situation. Obviously one of the largest state trooper organizations in the US does not see it that way. The Texas Departmant of Public Safety issues SIG's to all state troopers as their service side arm. Buy the SIG......you wont be disappointed!!! __________________ “All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.“

September 10, 2005, 09:26 PM	#5
guardsman012301 Member Join Date: May 17, 2004 Posts: 24	Go with HK! I love my HK USP .45 Tac. I've owned several .45's Glock, Ruger, CZ, and now an HK. From my experience the HK was the best .45 I've used, and they are very accurate. Granted you do pay some extra cash for the HK name, but it's worth it.

September 10, 2005, 08:37 PM	#2
JMag Senior Member Join Date: May 28, 2004 Posts: 284	The Sig; I'm not big on polymer .45s.

September 10, 2005, 09:31 PM	#6
MoW Junior member Join Date: January 27, 2005 Posts: 1,009	No question the P220. If it weren't for getting a SS in the SIG then the choice would be closer but in SS the P220 gets the edge. The difference in recoil could be noticeable for you.

September 10, 2005, 09:46 PM	#7
Detective_Special Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2004 Posts: 293	Usp 45 I prefer the USP 45 for a number of reasons, but mainly I really like the double stack mags vs the single stack. The frame mounted lever is one of the best in terms of location and function and with many options; decocker, cocked and locked, hammer down safety off, and hammer down safety on.

September 10, 2005, 10:01 PM	#8
harbinger Senior Member Join Date: October 7, 2001 Location: Lewiston, ME Posts: 185	P220, because it's next in these back and forth answers.

September 11, 2005, 02:34 PM	#10
Gixerman1000 Senior Member Join Date: June 22, 2005 Location: Eastern USA Posts: 338	Just pick the one you like the most, I own a USP45 Tactical, a P220 and a P220ST, all three are awesome shooters.

September 11, 2005, 03:28 PM	#11
Black Majik Member Join Date: May 21, 2004 Posts: 76	I like the features of the HK USP more (cond. 1 and/or DA/SA) but shootability and comfort, the SIG 220 is a lot better for me. Both are great, but the slight edge goes to the SIG 220. pistol for pistol.

September 11, 2005, 03:33 PM	#12
zzirg Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 184	buy the new september 05 limited p220,it has extended contols,sport grip and has an adjustable rear site and its in stainless also comes with the fiber optic front site msrp is 1007.00 its worth it.very nice gun!!

September 11, 2005, 03:35 PM	#13
michael t Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2004 Location: Out back Ky Posts: 4,044	Where the Colt selection The 45acp= Auto Colt Pistol. Doesn't say 45 sig or 45 hk . __________________ Certified Armed Infidel Colt Defender ,Colt Mustang ,Dan Wesson CBOB, PPK/S, American Classic 1911,Bersa Thunder 380 http://bersachat.comHome of Bersa http://www.metroarms1911forum.com

September 11, 2005, 04:01 PM	#14
.357SIG Senior Member Join Date: August 18, 1999 Posts: 1,023	I have both a SIG P220ST and a USP .45. My friend has a plain SIG P220 and I use it very often. I prefer the HK USP over the SIG, but feel variety is the spice of life. Recoil is managed well in all three and all three are very accurate. The two features that put the HK over for me are: -4 to 5 round increased capacity (12 in the USP vs. 7 or 8 in the SIG). -Ability to carry in cocked and locked mode, like a 1911. Other than this, both guns are pretty darn close in size and grip sizes. Grip goes slightly to the HK for me because trigger reach is easier, but it's not bad on the SIG either.

September 11, 2005, 04:20 PM	#15
IM_Lugger Senior Member Join Date: June 27, 2004 Posts: 2,011	SIG p220 for sure, or even better p226 in 9mm or .40 __________________ "I feel the Beretta is a great character, it's so strong and elegant. The other guns look dumb to me." - John Woo

September 11, 2005, 07:39 PM	#16
pyrotechnic Junior Member Join Date: September 11, 2005 Location: Montana Posts: 14	I'll recommend the USP45. I love mine. Shot a sig 220 once and liked it, but for me there is no comparison. Regards, Maarten

September 11, 2005, 09:49 PM	#17
hkg3 Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 1999 Location: Kalifornia, on my way to Arizona Posts: 1,149	I personally don’t own a USP, however I have several friends that do. They love em’. For under $1000 you can’t go wrong. HK quality is second to none. I can’t comment on the Sig, I don’t know anyone with one. Although I do think the Sig has nicer lines than the HK. Personally I’m a 1911 fan, but if your budget is under 1K then I would go with the HK. A custom built 1911 is easily $2000-$3000. __________________ "The next time I shoot somebody I could be arrested." - Lt. Frank Drebin, The Naked Gun