1187's (non magnum) are great all around guns. They don't kick as much as other guns due to the gas recoil which dampens some (get a pachymar recoil pad and the 12 gauge will feel like a 28gauge). for a gun that really kicks I have an old stevens 20 gauge bolt action that kicks like a mule unless I am shooting really light loads through it. I would rather shoot my 835 mossberg with 3.5 slugs than the stevens, but stil shoot the stevens because it was my first shotgun and I just never miss with it when shooting.
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