View Full Version : Glock 43 - single stack 9
southjk
March 18, 2015, 04:13 PM
They've finally announced it (http://concealednation.org/2015/03/introducing-the-glock-43-glocks-very-first-single-stack-9mm/). A Glock single stack 9. I don't own any Glocks but I will definitely have to try it out. It looks pretty close in size to my Shield but just a hair larger. Will you be getting one?
edit: I meant to put in the semi-auto forum. Mods please move.
Microgunner
March 18, 2015, 04:31 PM
Only the second Glock to ever interest me.
Cheapshooter
March 18, 2015, 04:53 PM
No problem with Glock, I have a G20, and G17. Will probably add a few more to the safe. But most likely not this one, or a G42. For the same reasons. G42 needlessly bigger than my LCP for a pocket 380. G43 bigger, and heavier than my Kahr CM9, almost as big as a Ruger LC9s Pro which holds one additional round.
I'm sure it will be a big success, especially with hard core Glock fans, but I see better options.
Dan-O
March 18, 2015, 04:58 PM
I got tired of waiting and picked up a Ruger LC9s Pro.
Wishoot
March 18, 2015, 05:20 PM
I got tired of waiting and picked up a Ruger LC9s Pro.
Same here. But mine is a Shield.
The Verminator
March 18, 2015, 05:30 PM
Since the Glock 26 and 27 conceal so well......the single-stack Glock seems to be a solution desperately searching for a problem.
:rolleyes:
Deaf Smith
March 18, 2015, 05:41 PM
I carry a Glock 26 daily. Excellent winter gun. Easy to sit down in chairs or drive cars and very fast from the leather. Accurate to!
BUT, in the hot Texas sun, where shorts and T-shirts are a must, that single stack 43 does sound appealing. Better than my J frame .38.
I'll be watching it closely for when I can handle one.
I just hope it takes the NY-1/3.5 lb connector setup like my other Glocks.
Deaf
The Verminator
March 18, 2015, 06:01 PM
I carry my 26 right front pocket with a pocket holster.......loose-fitting Cabela's Hiker pants.
Summer just means loose-fitting Cabela's Hiker shorts.
No problem. I have a good inside waistband holster and have never used it.
I can go to a Smith Model 36 Chief with pocket holster if I have to wear some tighter pants, but I haven't used that hardly at all.
I like the idea of ten or eleven rounds on tap.
;)
BarryLee
March 18, 2015, 06:24 PM
It is something that many people have been anxiously awaiting and I suspect it will be nice for IWB carry. However, I've got other things on my wish list, so I’ll make do with the G26 for now.
HKFan9
March 18, 2015, 06:34 PM
I will glady buy anyone's Glock 42 off of them if they want to replace it with the new 43 for a decent price.;)
redhologram
March 18, 2015, 06:35 PM
I'm sure one will make its way into our house.
Cheapshooter
March 18, 2015, 06:44 PM
BUT, in the hot Texas sun, where shorts and T-shirts are a must, that single stack 43 does sound appealing. Better than my J frame .38.
But as pointed out there are already smaller, lighter, easier to conceal options available. So are your only firearm choices S&W and Glock?:D
The Verminator
March 18, 2015, 06:51 PM
So are your only firearm choices S&W and Glock?
Meaning the older, pre-lock, pre-MIM S&Ws?
For me that would be an emphatic yes and yes.
Glock and vintage S&W.
That won't surprise many people who know firearms.
Arizona Fusilier
March 18, 2015, 06:53 PM
It sounds like there might be better choices from a pure weights-and-measures point of view; personally I bought the Shield for my wife and it is a great little gun.
But for those of us who have a significant investment in Glocks (like yours truly), the ability to adopt this familiar platform for this significant niche in one's defensive battery is welcome news.
Independent George
March 18, 2015, 10:43 PM
Before we bury the G43, let's recall how many people were burying the G42... until they shot it, and realized how much easier it was on your hands than the micro-.380s.
I'm personally skeptical - I think the fact that the G42 is locked breech set it apart from its competitors and made the additional size justifiable. Based purely on the specs, G42 really doesn't look any better than the comparably-sized Shield, XDS, or CW9.
I'm sure it'll be a fine gun and will sell by the bushel, but I was never the target demographic. For that size, I prefer the XDS ergonomics, and for concealment, there are smaller guns with the same capacity available. But to each his own, and I will never complain about there being too many choices in the market.
Now if only somebody made a DA/SA in that class...
Brotherbadger
March 19, 2015, 01:57 AM
It's not for me, but I like that they have listened to their consumers and came up with this.
Microgunner
March 19, 2015, 02:09 AM
I think the fact that the G42 is locked breech set it apart from its competitors
The vast majority of the G42's competition (polymer framed pocket 380s) is also locked breech.
slugchucker
March 19, 2015, 03:45 AM
nice write up here: http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/3/18/so-what-took-so-long-the-glock-g43/ better late than never? Now if Glock would only hurry up that 22lr..........
Spats McGee
March 19, 2015, 08:51 AM
My prediction, & I'm prepared to eat these words if I'm wrong, is as follows:
1) The G43 sell like hotcakes;
2) It will have some initial "growing pains," perhaps the infamous BTF Syndrome;
3) The True Diehard Fanboys of Glock will blame #2 on ammo or Shooter Error;
4) Glock will figure out the problem and fix it; and
5) G43s will continue to sell like hotcakes.
As for me, I neither need nor want one, but if an opportunity to shoot one presents itself, I won't pass it up. Maybe somewhere down the road, I'll change my mind and decide I need a single-stack 9.
What I'd really like to see, but haven't found yet, is a picture of a G43, side by side with a G19, from the rear. I want to say that I've read that it's 1.02" wide, and Glock's website says the G19 is 1.18," but I want to see the difference.
The Verminator
March 19, 2015, 10:05 AM
I'd sure like to see a .22 LR model!!!
There was actually a need for that.
Model12Win
March 19, 2015, 10:16 AM
This is the auto I've been waiting for. It's going to replace my S&W 642 revolver when I can find one.
Pico
March 19, 2015, 10:26 AM
Here is a picture which I hope is not photo shopped. Previous postings here seemed to indicate beliefs this market has passed it's peak and Glock was too late to the party. When I go to shows and stores, I see this class of gun out and being sold. Just a question for the group: hit, miss, or too late to matter?
I say huge hit.
Pico
http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/glock-43-cover.jpg
Dan-O
March 19, 2015, 10:48 AM
I'm a Glock fanboy. I'm sure they'll sell a bunch, but I'm gonna pass. They're about 2 years late, and I got tired of waiting. Picked up a LC9s Pro about two months ago.
Independent George
March 19, 2015, 12:42 PM
The vast majority of the G42's competition (polymer framed pocket 380s) is also locked breech.
Ok, I apparently need to put down the crack pipe. I could have sworn the LCP and the Kel-Tec were blowback, but it's been almost two years since I fired them. I just remember the recoil being terrible - maybe I just assumed they were blowback?
carguychris
March 19, 2015, 12:59 PM
I will glady buy anyone's Glock 42 off of them if they want to replace it with the new 43 for a decent price.
There are a suspiciously large number of original DAO-style Ruger LC9 pistols in the consignment gun cabinets in my neighborhood. One wonders if G42s are fixing to join them. :)
I could have sworn the LCP and the Kel-Tec were blowback
FWIW the LCP and LC380, K-T P3AT, Taurus TCP, S&W BG380 and M&P Bodyguard, and sundry Star DK copies (e.g. Mustang, P238, Micro Raptor) are locked breech.
Most other older .380 pistols, with the notable exception of Stars and Llamas, are blowback.
Grits
March 19, 2015, 01:26 PM
Too late for me. I just bought a 26 yesterday. I don't think I would have given up the capacity for the size anyway.
The Verminator
March 19, 2015, 02:39 PM
I'll stick with my 26.
I see no advantage to starting over with fewer rounds when my 26 conceals just fine.
Fullclip610
March 19, 2015, 02:50 PM
The 6 round capacity kills it. Would have like to have seen 8-10.
HKFan9
March 19, 2015, 02:52 PM
I never cared for the 26, the same argument to the smaller 42/43 could be said about the 26 and 19.
Why carry a 26 when its almost the same size as the 19. The longer barrel isn't hard to hide, and my 19's grip is about the smallest in a double stack I would care to grip.
Even the 26 with pinky extensions I could never shoot comfortably. I own a 19, and I'd like to own a 42... unless the 43 is the same size as the 42.
To me if it is going to be IWB I think the 19 is better than a 26.... the 26 still being too big for MOST people's pockets, is where the 42/43 comes in. I want a 42 for summer pocket carry.
Pico
March 19, 2015, 02:55 PM
The main advantage of the 26 is the ability to use the larger 9mm mags. I will have to have an actual 43 in my hand before judging how easy they function as a CCW but I have held the 42 and 36 and the single stack does make a difference to me.
If I were going to carry a 26 or 27 I would just go up to a 19 or 23.
Pico
P5 Guy
March 19, 2015, 03:32 PM
No finger grooves but still that silly hook on the trigger guard?
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
TxFlyFish
March 19, 2015, 03:41 PM
I just compared the manufacturer specs it's very strange...the g43 seems to be a more efficient design than either shield and 26 in the areas of barrel length vs total overall length. Also about the 6rd issue the shield is taller
Mastrogiacomo
March 19, 2015, 04:56 PM
I admit I thought I'd be excited, but they've toyed with Glock owners for so longer ignoring this request, I'm thinking the Walther PPS looks just fine.....I have a 26, 17 and 19 - so...is it really going to make a big difference that the Walther can't fill?
Laura
Vt.birdhunter
March 19, 2015, 05:14 PM
Has the release date been announced?
Nathan
March 19, 2015, 05:19 PM
Is it still the SAFE ACTION that so many have shot themselves or others with by accident? No thanks.
Yes, I'm trolling in a way. . .:D
The Verminator
March 19, 2015, 05:26 PM
Well, with or without a Glock......stupid people will find a way to shoot themselves, won't they?
;)
Haters gonna hate and stupids gonna stupid.
The Verminator
March 19, 2015, 05:51 PM
And the notion that a 19 can be concealed as easily as a 26 is pure owl droppings. Set them side by side......shorter barrel, shorter butt.....the 26 is easily pocket-carried......the 19? No.
I can agree with those with big hands who find the 26 uncomfortable, though. If I had larger than medium hands I wouldn't own one.
After all.......carrying is only the first and least important part......the shooting of the thing is where the rubber meets the road.
You damned well better be comfortable with it and skilled with it or you may as well save yourself the trouble of carrying it.
Limnophile
March 19, 2015, 05:59 PM
I predict a spate of pocket-carry NDs over the next year or two.
jmhyer
March 19, 2015, 06:40 PM
Would it change any capacity naysayers' minds if a +1 or +2 mag extension became available...extra capacity AND some extra real estate for yor pinky.
Dragline45
March 19, 2015, 07:59 PM
Meh ill stick with my Shield. Bit thinner and still holds an extra round even with the flush mag. Plus the 42 didn't exactly hold up to Glock's reputation for stellar reliability, I cant see the 43 being much different.
zachattack2
March 19, 2015, 08:06 PM
I think this is a great choice by Glock. A slim single stack 9mm is a great carry gun and if it is a glock it makes it even better.
Glock will make lots of money and sell tons of these in my opinion. Anyone who Likes Glocks and Carrys should get this gun.
They finally made it
Zach
Joe_Pike
March 19, 2015, 08:27 PM
Has the release date been announced?
They are unveiling it at some show in the middle of April with immediate shipments following is what I read.
tipoc
March 19, 2015, 10:52 PM
It'll be interesting to take a look at it. Though I'm pleased with my Shield. 7+1 or 8+1.
tipoc
AustinTX
March 19, 2015, 10:57 PM
Meh. Inferior to the PPS, in my opinion.
But they'll still sell by the boatload.
Quentin2
March 19, 2015, 11:15 PM
I'm glad Glock finally has a single stack 9mm but not interesting in buying at this time. I normally carry a G26 with heavier clothing and recently bought a Ruger LC9s Pro for warm weather. I really like the Pro so will stay with it and keep an eye on reviews of the G43 over the year.
ritepath
March 20, 2015, 05:57 AM
Not a chance....I already have a shield.
Pico
March 20, 2015, 09:56 AM
No way folks. This one has to go in a belt or IWB holster. If you are doing this a 26 makes much less sense than a 19. A Glock 26 in a pocket would be noticeable by Stevie Wonder.
Pearce Grip will have all kinds of +1 or 2 adaptors for the 43 if the 6 rnd limit is a problem. Carrying chambered in a pocket holster or IWB still gives you 7 and a second mag would be easy to slip in to your everyday carry routine also.
Pico
The Verminator
March 20, 2015, 10:08 AM
A Glock 26 in a pocket would be noticeable by Stevie Wonder.
Only if he felt it......and I'm not that tolerant.
:D
It all depends on your pocket and your holster. Not difficult to find the right pants and the right holster.
I've been pocket-carrying a Glock 26 almost every day for at least eight or nine years and never once had anybody notice it. It's invisible.
I carry a big wallet in the left front pocket and Glock in the right front pocket and the two pockets look identical.
Winter, summer.....it's all good.
Pawatch
March 20, 2015, 12:43 PM
I own a couple of single stack 9's. But I would be interested to see how the G43 shoots.
I shot the G42 and liked it a lot. Now that there will be a lot of used G42's for-sale I probably get one if I can find one cheap. ;)
45_auto
March 20, 2015, 12:49 PM
I've been pocket-carrying a Glock 26 almost every day for at least eight or nine years and never once had anybody notice it.
Why do you believe no one noticed it? There's a huge difference between "not noticing" and "not telling you about it". Kind of like walking around with your fly unzipped. Lots of people might notice it, but very few would tell you about it.
If you notice someone carrying a handgun which they erroneously believe is concealed (in their pocket or under their shirt) do you go up to them and tell them about it?
I've noticed LOTS of people carrying guns that they think are concealed. Never said anything about it to a single one of them.
The Verminator
March 20, 2015, 02:03 PM
Why do you believe no one noticed it? There's a huge difference between "not noticing" and "not telling you about it"
Oh, the people I'm around would hasten to remark upon it, of that you can be sure.
It's invisible.
This silly myth about the Glock 26 being difficult to pocket-carry is a myth I can easily refute because I do it almost every day.
Now the idiots who go around with this huge bulge on their hip under their shirt--THEY have a SERIOUS problem.
:D
JN01
March 20, 2015, 03:28 PM
This silly myth about the Glock 26 being difficult to pocket-carry is a myth I can easily refute because I do it almost every day.
But not all of us have clown pants in our wardrobes. :D
I have actually, on rare occasion, pocket carried a G26 around the house, but it does look like a brick in my pocket. My greater concern, however, is the weight wearing and tearing through the bottom of the pocket lining as most of them are quite thin material.
The Verminator
March 20, 2015, 03:35 PM
Rest assured, the pocket bottom is not a concern.
I've had the back right corner of the slide wear a hole in some pants after a lot of carry, but the pants were pretty much worn and ready for replacement by the time that happened.
The bottom of the pocket is well protected by the holster.
I don't wear clown pants. I do wear the good Cabela's hiker pants and they come in a shorts version for summer. I imagine any fairly loose fit work or hunting type pants would do just as well.
The main thing is having a nice, roomy pocket.
I'm six foot and medium build. I suppose if you're really fat and wear your pants tight there might be a problem, but it's worked fine for me.
I do wear clown SHOES, of course, but that's just to intimidate potential attackers.
:)
JN01
March 20, 2015, 04:03 PM
The way the top of the pocket is cut makes a big difference as well, if it comes up too high, it is very difficult to draw the gun.
smee78
March 22, 2015, 08:26 PM
I want to shoot one before I decide, I am pretty happy with my S&W 3913NL. I know there is a market for these and I'm sure they will sell well. I got rid of my G26 years ago because it was to thick for packet carry and my G19 was only 1/2 longer in the grip and barrel so it never really fit any role for me.
Alnamvet68
March 23, 2015, 07:32 AM
Based on my handling of my neighbor's G42, I am going to say this may very well be Glock's first truly pocketable pistol. While my G26 on occasion is carried in a coat pocket in the winter, I never felt it was comfortable being carried in my front cargo pants in warm weather. The G43 is just a whisper larger than the G42, and has a slimmer frame than the G26, so I'll be getting one. My current pocket carry has always been a 642 or a 638, and I'm guessing the G43 will be every bit as comfortable in the pocket as have been my J frames with the "fat" cylinder.:)
http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b634/alnamvet68/21595820-0cc2-49d2-9052-5564abe58f3c.jpg (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/alnamvet68/media/21595820-0cc2-49d2-9052-5564abe58f3c.jpg.html)
Dashunde
March 23, 2015, 09:30 AM
It's bigger than I was hoping for... Before I buy one I'll have to compare it side-by-side to my G27 to see if its worth buying.
Then I'll decide what to add.. the new Glock, new Ruger, or another PM9/PM40
iblong
March 23, 2015, 01:11 PM
not a fan of pocket pistols,was hoping for a single stack 19.
I may buy one down the road when the after market start producing +2 mag extentions.I have a shield and xds to fill that niche right now.
skizzums
March 23, 2015, 01:46 PM
I don't like or dislike glock. I believe they are reliable pistols as people claim. My friends both have them in 40cal which I dislike, so I have little experience with anything else. To me it is going to come down to price. I am happy with what I have now, but I could get another pocket pistol. But there are so many great options in the 350$ and under range that have proven themselves reliable that I would not spring 4-500$ to have glock on the side of pretty much the same thing everyone else is selling. But they have a die hard fan base, and new shooters always think Glock because they seem to have very effective advertising, I'm sire they will do great.
Oh yeah, I really don't feel comfortable with a pocket pistol with no external safety, I know, it shouldn't matter if I do my part correctly, but its a comfort thing.
Uncle Malice
March 23, 2015, 02:32 PM
It looks pretty close in size to my Shield but just a hair larger. Will you be getting one?
That right there answers why I will NOT be getting one. It's larger than the Shield with less capacity.
I had the safety model of the Shield a while back and really liked it but let it go as a partial trade. Now that they have the non-safety version, there's nothing I don't like about the Shield and it's back on my list.
To me, the G43 is a disappointment. And I'm kind of a big Glock fan.
Dashunde
March 23, 2015, 05:04 PM
To me, the G43 is a disappointment. And I'm kind of a big Glock fan
Thats were I'm at with it... the more I study the specs the bigger fail it becomes.
- Its only 4.5oz lighter than a fully loaded G27 (9+1).
- Its actually taller than a G26/27
- Its empty weight is more than a loaded Kahr PM/CM9
- Its wider than the Kahr.
I was really hoping it would be identical to the G42... which btw, is still bigger than the venerable 10+ year old Kahr PM design.
SIMP
March 24, 2015, 12:29 PM
That right there answers why I will NOT be getting one. It's larger than the Shield with less capacity.
I had the safety model of the Shield a while back and really liked it but let it go as a partial trade. Now that they have the non-safety version, there's nothing I don't like about the Shield and it's back on my list.
To me, the G43 is a disappointment. And I'm kind of a big Glock fan.
I am with Uncle Malice on this one. I enjoy the Glocks I own very much but the 43 doesn't impress me too much. I own the Shield 9mm NTS model and it has been flawless. It seems to me that by the time you add a +1 floor plate to the 6-round G43 mag, it would become taller than Shield. The Shield is a bit taller in stock form but it holds 7 in the mag versus 6 of the G43.
However, I would still like to shoot a G43 and see how it performs.
jfost
March 24, 2015, 02:51 PM
Well, with or without a Glock......stupid people will find a way to shoot themselves, won't they?
Haters gonna hate and stupids gonna stupid.
Lmao!
Ok, I apparently need to put down the crack pipe. I could have sworn the LCP and the Kel-Tec were blowback, but it's been almost two years since I fired them. I just remember the recoil being terrible - maybe I just assumed they were blowback?
Lmao x2!
And the notion that a 19 can be concealed as easily as a 26 is pure owl droppings. Set them side by side......shorter barrel, shorter butt.....the 26 is easily pocket-carried......the 19? No.
Lmao x3! I'm done. I miss this forum. Glad I tuned back in.
I think I may look into the g43 at some point, but not until the (probable to maybe) initial inflated prices go down and they are in stock. Glock somewhat suffered from not making this a while ago (as their competition enjoyed eating the micro compact market up), yet they won't have suffered much as I am sure many people just waited on this.
Now if only the Ruger lcp (or similar size and .380 caliber firearm) could be striker fired...
Pico
March 26, 2015, 09:52 PM
Mas agrees it will sell like crazy. That makes two of us at least.
Pico
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6E7qRJsE2Y
whip1
March 26, 2015, 10:00 PM
It's a Glock. Of course it will sell like crazy. Anyone that says otherwise isn't paying attention.
tipoc
March 26, 2015, 10:55 PM
Another paycheck for Mas!
tipoc
btmj
March 27, 2015, 03:56 PM
I just wish Glock had come out with this years ago.
My normal carry was a G19, but I needed something thinner and smaller for summertime. What I really wanted was a single-stack version of the G26. In 2011 I ended up with a Walther PPS, which is a really nice pistol, no complaints. At the time it was one of the few single-stack 9's that had a glock-like feel.
In the past 4 years my buddies have all bought SW Shield, Ruger LC9 and LC9S. Certainly if I was in the market TODAY, I would strongly consider the G43, but I would also consider the PPS, the Shield, and the LC9S / LC9S Pro.
I fear ol' Glock waited too long. Oh they will sell, but imagine if this pistol had come out 10 years ago when the only real option for a thin single stack 9 was Kahr ? millions and millions would have been sold...
Jim
Justice06RR
March 27, 2015, 11:24 PM
Don't want one, and don't need one.
IMHO Glock is very late to the subcompact/pocket-sized single-stack 9mm party. There are already numerous offerings in this category.
And this is coming from another Glock owner.
But I'm sure all the die-hard Glock fans will buy one just like Apple fans buy the newest Iphones that come out. (I have one of those too :o)
Maybe if Glock sells the G43 very competitively priced, under $400 (say $350-375 street price) it will sell much better. But the MSRP of $500+ which translates to $450 in reality will not sway others who are not already a fan of Glocks.
I guess at this point we'll see. I'm already seeing many people dumping the G42 locally in my area if that's an indication of anything (or nothing).
heyjoe
March 28, 2015, 06:41 AM
thats what everyone said about the model 42, Glock waited too long to come out with a .380 that could be sold in the united states, the market is already saturated etc. They sold 200,000 of them last year.
Joe_Pike
March 28, 2015, 08:59 AM
Dealer cost Is $396.xx I believe, so, normal retail will be somewhere in the $450-$475 range. I don't think you will find them for that at first, but eventually big retailers like Bud's will start getting better deals than the small dealers get and they will sell them at or bellow the cost of what a local dealer can buy it for. Then everyone will scream about how the local guys are ripping you off because they want to make enough money to pay their bills.
tipoc
March 28, 2015, 10:07 AM
Glock will sell a lot of these guns. It's surprising that anyone would think otherwise and I'm not sure anyone here does. Folks know the gun will sell.
Glock did not want to sell a single stack 9 or a single stack 40 for that matter. They have the G19 and the 26 they felt no need to allocate resources to a gun they did not need to produce. What changed their mind is that they have been losing market share to their competitors.
In the last several years this loss of market share has brought about the introduction of the Gen 4 line, the G42 and a few other changes. Glock has a dominant place in the market but you can't stay there without change.
tipoc
tipoc
March 28, 2015, 10:29 AM
A quick search showed me that Glock had issues with the G42 when it was first released. Failures to feed, issues with the magazines, etc. Glock moved quickly and as they usually do quietly to repair the damage. It appears that within a year they had many of the kinks worked out.
We'll see how things run with the G43.
You can read on some of the G42 issues below:
http://thegunwriter.blogs.heraldtribune.com/15756/glock-42-barrel-problems/
http://thegunwriter.blogs.heraldtribune.com/15882/more-glock-42-problems-reported/comment-page-4/
http://looserounds.com/2014/05/10/glock-appears-to-have-made-changes-to-the-g42/
tipoc
suncoastarmory
March 28, 2015, 07:45 PM
Thats were I'm at with it... the more I study the specs the bigger fail it becomes.
- Its only 4.5oz lighter than a fully loaded G27 (9+1).
- Its actually taller than a G26/27
- Its empty weight is more than a loaded Kahr PM/CM9
- Its wider than the Kahr.
I was really hoping it would be identical to the G42... which btw, is still bigger than the venerable 10+ year old Kahr PM design.
I concur. I have several Glocks but I was disappointed that the 43 is not a 42 chambered in 9mm. I sold a bunch of 42's and people love them. I was hoping to love the 43, but I'll probably stick with my CM9.
predecessor
March 28, 2015, 08:06 PM
I remember when the Ruger SR1911 came out (a mere 100 years after the first Colt 1911) and Ruger fanboys came out of the cave for the first time to buy a 1911 because it was made by Ruger.
I'm certain Glock aficionados will do the same with the G43.
If it does something better or more effectively than the other current field of sub's than I may stop yawning.
Until then my $367 Nano continues to perform better in my hands than anything in it's class.
btmj
March 29, 2015, 10:59 PM
^this ^
I remember when the Ruger SR1911 came out (a mere 100 years after the first Colt 1911) and Ruger fanboys came out of the cave for the first time to buy a 1911 because it was made by Ruger.
Yep. Same will be true of the G43.
But if Glock had come out with this in 2005, everyone else would be playing catch-up...
tipoc
March 30, 2015, 01:38 AM
Walther introduced the P99 with it's interchangeable backstraps to adjust the grip width in 1998. It took some years for other gunmakers to do the same. Glock has been one of the last holdouts.
A couple years back S&W introduced their PRO Series M&P gun with mounted optics.
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_814076_-1_757781_757781_757781_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y
Glock responded recently with their MOS set up:
http://us.glock.com/mos
But it's trailing some. They don't move till compelled.
tipoc
Auto5
March 30, 2015, 06:51 AM
I'm sure it is a fine pistol and they will sell plenty of them, especially to those that like the Glock platform, but as someone else pointed out, they're late to the party. I've had my carry nines set for a couple of years and there is nothing compelling enough about the 43 to make me switch.
BradS
March 30, 2015, 09:05 PM
I pre-ordered one today. My carry gun is a G19. I wanted smaller gun in 9mm,so the G43 is the perfect back up to match the 19.
Pico
March 30, 2015, 10:31 PM
Who really gives a crap who came first? If we followed that logic we would not have bought LC-9's and Shields and bought a Kel-Tec PF-9 or something else.
I'm curious to see if the Glock 44 will be a 5 shot .40 using the 43 frame.
Pico
GEARHEAD_ENG
March 30, 2015, 10:43 PM
Who really gives a crap who came first? If we followed that logic we would not have bought LC-9's and Shields and bought a Kel-Tec PF-9 or something else.
I'm curious to see if the Glock 44 will be a 5 shot .40 using the 43 frame.
Pico
Because we feel like we're sticking it to Glock for denying the market a single stack 9mm platform for so long! [emoji1]
Boycott the 43!
MurrayNevada
March 31, 2015, 03:24 AM
I jumped on an early G42 and it needed a trip back to Smyrna. I'll wait until next year to buy a G43.
Dashunde
March 31, 2015, 08:38 AM
Just wondering aloud here...
Any chance the G42 could be converted to 9x19 with a different magazine, spring and barrel?
Deja vu
March 31, 2015, 08:53 PM
not my link but a good video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nngBdzmH6VI&feature=youtu.be
I like glocks and I showed my wife the 43 online but she says she would rather have the springfield or the shield.
Nakanokalronin
April 1, 2015, 10:06 AM
Just wondering aloud here...
Any chance the G42 could be converted to 9x19 with a different magazine, spring and barrel?
No.
tipoc
April 1, 2015, 07:30 PM
I'm curious to see if the Glock 44 will be a 5 shot .40 using the 43 frame.
No, the word is it'll be a 45 acp with a thumb safety and a better grip angle.:p
tipoc
Pico
April 2, 2015, 10:24 AM
It would have to be a .45 GAP to fit that frame. Seems redundant when they have the 36 already oh wait YOU WERE KIDDING.
I wish Glock would try to do their take on a 1911 just for you pal.
Pico
Dashunde
April 2, 2015, 11:33 AM
http://thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=98617&stc=1&d=1427992382
lol...
Pico
April 2, 2015, 06:12 PM
Wish they would build it....
Pico
Dashunde
April 2, 2015, 11:24 PM
I dunno... its so far removed from what Glock does best, their 1911 would probably be a disaster and soil up the name real quick. :p
Thats a pretty good photoshop effort though, its also the only re-work of the front slide/dust cover that I have ever liked beyond the original.
Pond, James Pond
April 3, 2015, 12:58 AM
I'm sure some have their reasons but, personally, I don't see what the fuss is about.
In the G43, when compared to the G26, someone is sacrificing a shorter grip (2mm shorter on the 26: less print) and a 66% increase in capacity for the sake of shaving 4mm from the width!!
Not to mention losing the ability to load the FS 15/17rd mags
For me, when bending forward, assuming a 4.30 carry, a longer grip will print more than a wider one.
Admittedly, the G43 is ligthter, but by no means is the G26 a brick, fully loaded!
I mean, if folks are excited about it, then great, but I would still choose the 26 at a drop of a hat. Perhaps I would feel differently is I saw/handled them side by side, but I doubt it.
Mystro
April 3, 2015, 05:30 AM
The G43 is not really that thin of a gun. I measured the new P320 Subcompact 9mm against the G43 and the difference was .08". The P320SC holds 13 rounds of 9mm for a frame width of 1.10" verses the G43 holding 7 rounds for a frame width of 1.02".
Anyone want to give up 5 extra rounds for .08" in thickness?
Dashunde
April 3, 2015, 07:52 AM
Anyone want to give up 5 extra rounds for .08" in thickness?
Sure. Those additional rounds add up. I dont want to carry weight of 13+ rounds in one spot, negating the need for any extra thickness.
I'm one of those people who loves guns, but really doesn't think I'll ever need one, so I begrudgingly carry the smallest and lightest possible... the G42 and 43 are misses for me.
Glenn E. Meyer
April 5, 2015, 11:17 AM
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/04/05/glock-goes-concealed-carry-could-this-new-gun-shak.aspx
Here is an analysis by some economic geniuses. Note their analysis that besides market forces (missing the boat on the 380 start up by Ruger), it is because of the fear that Obama wants your gun and you can hide a G43. Huh? :confused::rolleyes:
tipoc
April 5, 2015, 12:25 PM
Actually not a bad financial analysis. They're probably right that the G43 will effect S&W's bottom line the most.
tipoc
whip1
April 5, 2015, 02:49 PM
That's an interesting read from a non gun perspective.
heyjoe
April 5, 2015, 03:06 PM
besides the analysis the article itself is poorly written in particular the paragraph about relative weights of the pistols.
Dashunde
April 5, 2015, 06:10 PM
I dont care much for all the "fear" nonsense in the beginning...
I carry to be capable and prepared... not out of fear. Its just insurance of a different type.
I'm not fearful of cancer, but I'm "armed" with heath insurance just in case.
The other manufacturers are likely very grateful that Glock took so long to show up with the G42 & 43.
Glocks inexplicable delay allowed the others to sell a lot of pistols they might not have otherwise... particularly the PPS, Shield and LC9.
But I'm not at all convinced a large percentage of those owners will dump their current pistols and buy the Glocks.
So I think Glock is left mostly with their diehards, unsatisfied owners of other brands and truly new buyers in the segment.
Glock really left a ton of money on the table by being so slow...
heyjoe
April 5, 2015, 10:49 PM
in defense of glock, for half those years they were producing firearms at or near manufacturing capacity.
Justice06RR
April 7, 2015, 04:01 AM
thats what everyone said about the model 42, Glock waited too long to come out with a .380 that could be sold in the united states, the market is already saturated etc. They sold 200,000 of them last year.
A big portion of those sales are most likely Glock fans.
A big portion of G43 sales will most likely be Glock fans again.
No surprise there.
Those who already found other options will most likely not buy the new G43.
I have a G19 Gen4 for Range use/CCW, and a PT709Slim (9mm single stack) for pocket carry. There's really no point for me to buy the G43, like many others. If anything, i'll buy a Full size pistol to complete my handgun needs.
JMC
April 8, 2015, 06:40 AM
I can't admit to being a Glock "fan boy" but I will admit to owning a few and enjoy those that I have. ;)
In fact, I'm not a "fan boy" of any particular brand of anything.
I had no interest at all in the G42 due to the caliber however, I do have a G43 "blue label" on pre-order at a local dealer.
My EDC is a G27. My smaller carry gun for those times when the G27 is just a bit too large is a Kahr PM9.
I'm thinking the G43 will fit in nicely between the two.
I've read that the G43 is too large for pocket carry and best suited to holster carry. That's fine with me because I'm not a big fan of pocket carry anyway.
I'm waiting for the call...:D
Dashunde
April 8, 2015, 07:56 AM
JMC, take note that the G43 is only ~1/8" shorter and a bit thinner than the G27... not really worth it.
An empty G43 weighs more than a loaded PM9.
I have a G27 and had a PM9... they're a good match with significant felt/noticeable carry differences.
I regret selling off the PM9.
Grits
April 8, 2015, 09:19 AM
I think you need a little gun like this : one for each front pocket, the back pockets, both ankles and then in the winter you have a bunch of coat pockets to fill. Yes, there is always room for the Glock 43 and it will find a pocket somewhere :)
Knightsofnee
April 8, 2015, 11:56 AM
So are you guys planning on pocket carrying this essentially safety-less pistol in a zip-lock bag, or should we just go ahead and add the .25-.375+" for a pocket holster into the width measurements?
JMC
April 8, 2015, 12:58 PM
JMC, take note that the G43 is only ~1/8" shorter and a bit thinner than the G27... not really worth it.
An empty G43 weighs more than a loaded PM9.
I have a G27 and had a PM9... they're a good match with significant felt/noticeable carry differences.
I regret selling off the PM9.
I guess "not really worth it" would be a subjective point of view.
Until I determine otherwise, the G43 will have a place for me in between the G27 and the PM9.
I won't be the first time, or the last, that I bought a gun that at first, didn't have an exact mission. There are many more sitting in my safe right now. ;)
I see the G43 as a nice alternative IWB gun, slightly larger than the PM9 and yes, it has the same capacity 6+1. That's 7 more than I have needed up to this point.
JMC
April 8, 2015, 01:01 PM
So are you guys planning on pocket carrying this essentially safety-less pistol in a zip-lock bag, or should we just go ahead and add the .25-.375+" for a pocket holster into the width measurements?
I'm not a big fan of pocket carry and very rarely do but when I find it the only alternative, I do so with my PM9.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/KobraCarry/Kahr%20PM9/IMG_0702copy_zps0b167402.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/KobraCarry/media/Kahr%20PM9/IMG_0702copy_zps0b167402.jpg.html)
Dashunde
April 8, 2015, 05:31 PM
I guess "not really worth it" would be a subjective point of view.
I suppose, but it is quantifiable in this case...
The G27 and G43 basically have the same length and height (averaged) and are fundamentally identical Glock.
The width difference is exactly 0.16" or ~1/6" or 4.04mm, and 4 ounces in weight.
So is spending $125 per millimeter & ounce worth it to add a otherwise redundant gun thats short 3 rounds?
On the other hand, if the 43 were the same size & weight as the PM9 I'd probably camp outside the store like those Iphone people to get one.
Pawatch
April 8, 2015, 05:33 PM
I'm interested to see what the recoil is like.
My LGS is getting some G43's in Monday. I'm not on any lists for one currently.
druryj
April 13, 2015, 01:33 PM
I'll own a Glock 43 as soon as I can and am not afraid to say so.
Hunter0924
April 15, 2015, 12:55 AM
My thoughts are, the real benefit of the 9mm is capacity. the Glock 26 is easy enough to conceal and shoot with 10+1 capacity. If I were to go to a 6 round 9mm I would opt for a revolver in 44 Special, even if it were 5 rounds.
44 Special out of a snub nose revolver is nothing to sneeze at and I would prefer that as a primary carry over a 6 shot 9mm auto loader.
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