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sinjinsdad
January 23, 2001, 07:57 PM
I'm thinking about getting a Hesse HAR-25 (AR-10 clone.) Does anyone have one or can you tell me something about them.Thanks J.

Badger Arms
January 23, 2001, 10:54 PM
Hold out for an Eagle Arms AR-10. It's the bargain version of the Armalite AR-10.

http://www.armalite.com/library/pressReleases/Eagle308PressRelease.htm

Much better option.

Steve Smith
January 23, 2001, 11:05 PM
I know nothing about their AR clone receivers, but I do know that their FAL receivers are not respected much in the FAL community. In fact, many FAL smiths won't even touch them. That reflects upon their other guns. I took a look at http://www.hessearms.com and my latest Federal Arms catalog. Looks like that Hesse HAR-25 is running $1200 and the "modified FAL" mags are $45 each. Personally, I think you could do better in several directions. Not only does the rifle seem "iffy" since it's an AR-10 (even Armalite can't get them to be 100% reliable) and moreso that Hesse makes it, but also those mags! Your only supplier is Hesse, and they're expensive! Regular metric FAL mags are $8 each! Even USGI M1A mags can be bought for $31 each.

Get an Armalite AR-10 for only a few hundred more...it would be worth it, I think. Lifetime warrantee. Very accurate, and if it's breaking, you cna send it back.

Get an AZEX Arms or DSA built FAL for about $1200. Or get an Entreprise rifle for around $900. All these options carry a lifetime warrantee. Definately nice rifles and more reliable than an AR-10 anyway, although they might not be sub-moa accurate.

Get an M1A or build an M14 for yourself. You'll be $1100 to $1300 into it, and it will be reliable and you can also shoot DCM matches with it. Lifetime warrantees with Springfield and other rifle makers.

Looks like Hesse offers a one year warrantee with their rifles. I think you can tell I'm not crazy about the rifle. However, this is just my opinion. Good luck.

Cannon Cocker
January 24, 2001, 01:02 AM
No personal experience with Hesse, but if there is one company that gets almost universal bad reviews it would be them. I have heard complaints about their AK's, FAL's, and AR type rifles. If it were me and my money I wouldn't take the chance.

Destructo6
January 24, 2001, 02:42 AM
Their HK clones are even worse. There's a reason why Hesse guns are often referred to as a "Hesse mess".