Feinstein's List of Weapons to be Banned

[Rifleman1952]

http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Feinstein-Weapons-Ban-e1359047805173.jpg

If I understand correctly, we will be able to keep what we already own, but will have to register our "banned" firearms with the federal government. Don't be surprised if the federal government demands possession upon the gun owner's death.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/24/feinstein-calls-for-banning-more-than-150-firearms-during-dramatic-press-conference/

I don't see the SKS on this list, perhaps because they are no longer manufactured.

[breakingcontact]

just a bill, not a law, needs to be defeated.

She doesn't just "get what she wants".

[JWT]

She has her dog and pony show going on today. He bill is one of the most damaging of the entire lot if it happens to get through Congress. Hopefully it won't.

[Dr Big Bird PhD]

The third rifle listed under "AR Types" is the Armalite M15 22lr

HOW PETTY is this woman?

Does she not see she's banning a "ruger 10/22" with expensive furniture?

[Wrothgar]

Does anyone have a link to the actual legislation? Not just a picture from a third party website? I want to read the ACTUAL bill.

[spacecoast]

Oops, I don't see my AK's make/model number listed on there, guess I'm in the clear. ;)

Whoever put that list together has rocks in their head.

[bipe215]

The scariest part of this is the law against handing down firearms to loved ones, and instead turning them in. That is confiscation, any way you look at it. I don't think it will pass, but I'm still writing emails to my Senators and Reps.

Steve

[Rifleman1952]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/24/politics/feinstein-bill-details/

I believe the above link to CNN actually shows Feinstein's bill.

[win-lose]

Here's the doc... it's not pretty.

[new_camper]

Please tell me there is no chance of this passing, I want a 22/45 threaded barrel and this would kill any chance of that.

[win-lose]

Looks like they will let you transfer banned weapons (with a background check)... I guess this is to make it more palatable.

Given the criteria, looks like my mini 14, mini 30 and m1a will be banned. The list they provide appears to be a distraction as the criteria is far more encompassing.

[para.2]

Mmmm....Under handguns, it states "any semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm." Glock, anyone? I know the Glock 18 is an auto version of the Glock 17, But this could be twisted to ban all glocks, as a semi version of the 18.

That link is still not the full text of the actual bill, just a slightly more detailed summary than we've been seeing for weeks.

What else is hiding in there?

[cladano]

So you have to register it with the govt and you're not allowed to transfer it.... so then the govt can confiscate it when you die....

ugh.... and why can't we see from our govt what is actually being proposed!

What's the bill number?

[BikeNGun1974]

There IS a chance of this passing. That's why you need to write and call your reps and senators today and every week until they hold the vote.

[BGutzman]

Another assault on freedom. The clearest of cases that the system is broken... Absolutely broken... The proposal itself should be grounds for impeachment of those who proposed it... Enough said. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[JWT]

BikeNgun is absolutely right. If pro gun rights people don't keep up pressure on their Senators and Representatives this could concievably pass. The Ruger sites letter is a great way to start.

[new_camper]

BikeNgun I have been writing and calling my reps, I have been telling anyone that I can to call and write. I am hoping that with the house in republican control that this wont pass. I was hoping that there would be enough opposition in the senate so that it won't even make it to the house but I dont know since the democrats have the senate.

Are there enough dems that are pro gun to kill it in the senate?

[Rifleman1952]

Early in Obama's first term, many folks said "Obamacare" would never pass. How did "Obamacare" pass? It passed by bribing certain key swing legislators. Remember the "Corn-husker Kickback"? Float enough federal dollars (taxpayers dollars) to any legislator siting on the fence and the next thing you know, a bill, that a majority of citizens do not want, becomes law.

Join the NRA or other gun rights organization. Write your congressmen and senators. Read books like John Lott's MORE GUNS LESS CRIME and be prepared to discuss with friends and relatives the truth about what is going on.

[BikeNGun1974]

It's really hard to say who will vote for it or against it.

Some Dems say they are against it. Some Republicans say they are for it.

I really don't know how this will go which, for me, is the biggest motivator out there.

If I know something is going a certain way, I can prepare. If I don't know, then it's time to take action.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

All semiautomatic pistols that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: threaded barrel; second pistol grip; barrel shroud; capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip; or semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.

So since there are fully auto Glock 18s, are the 17s banned? They are not direct versions but they are evil. :confused:

[Landis]

Yes there is a chance. This has been changed from the original ban plan in that there is no requirement to register existing grandfathered guns and allowing the transfer and sale with the background checks. So if you have it you can keep it, and your investment is probably going to skyrocket.

This is what is insidious: we are suppose to feel relieved there won't be a confiscation, for now, and we won't have to register our "assault weapons" as NFA firearms, for now, but the costs to buy will rise and new production is essentially halted. This is essentially the '94 ban with no sunset and more inclusive of a whole lot more models. Please correct me if I am wrong.

This does nothing to prevent a school shooting, or addressing the underlying cause (ADHD drugs), and as soon as there is another tragedy there WILL be amendments to tighten the screws on the "previously legally owned firearm owner".

Keep the pressure on gents, this fight just got harder because it isn't quite as terrible, for now. Keep writing and calling your legislators.

This bill IS unconstitutional.

[Dr Big Bird PhD]

We live in a world of lemmings

[JimDandy]

Hahaha She did it. She's out to ban a black powder gun with a thumbhole stock. The BP Rifle at cabelas fails the one feature test, and is not manually operated by bolt, lever, or slide actions.

We still can't see the text of the bill I guess, and this is just a synopsis, but from what I can tell certain features will be banned in and of themselves- the entry on bullet butons and thumbhole stocks. Firearms with those features are exempted based on pre-existing ownership, or a list of action types... slide, lever, bolt...

[win-lose]

Fox news is reporting that there is more to this than what is in the outline... there are also background checks on ammo (and magazines?) and mandatory reporting of ammo purchases larger than X rounds. I suspect there is even more that wasn't mentioned.

[RamItOne]

She does this every January. This one just occurs with more hoopla going around.

[STW]

Me reading tells me that many of my magazines would become a weapon in and of themselves since magazines are called weapons.

I guess this is in line with the thinking in Delaware where having a standard capacity magazine in any number of places would be illegal and having said magazine within 20 feet of a gun would be even more illegal.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

Mandatory checks if you buy so much ammo? Well, get us some ammo back in the stores and online, Diane.

Went by Bass Pro and the entire handgun section was empty. Check what?

If she thinks this will pass, well - she's a Balrog and I hope Gundalf is on the bridge - I grant you this is a stupid joke.

Biden is a joke - so haha.

[carguychris]

What's on the list of "2,258 legitimate hunting and sporting rifles and shotguns"?
Does the bill include a process to add firearms to the "Prohibited" list, and if so, how would the process work? The key is this: is further legislation required, or can it be done by a bureaucratic regulations or (gasp) executive order? :eek:

[tyme]

The list of guns to ban is pure propaganda. Most assault weapons bans (1994 federal, and various state bans) do the same thing, and it's disgusting. People hear "AR-15" and connect it with some of these recent shootings. If she'd left out the list of specific gun models, it would cause people to have to think about the wisdom of banning guns by cosmetics. The last thing the gun banners want is for anyone to think carefully about the wisdom of banning guns by cosmetic features.

[Dr Big Bird PhD]

*lack of wisdom in banning cosmetic features.

[Landis]

I think you can sell them, and so far it appears there is no registration. These seem to be recent changes. I am looking for the text of the bill.

[raimius]

Anyone have the bill number?

[Glenn E. Meyer]

A reminder we don't do liberals vs. conservatives. We can come up with lists of conservatives who are so pro AWB to make you puke.

I've deleted some and to continue is at your peril. If you haven't learned that we don't do that here, you haven't been paying attention.

[jason_iowa]

It's laughable that they think this would do anything to curb violence or crime. Violence existed before firearms and will exist when we are all using pure energy weapons.

[Alabama Shooter]

I am just glad they are banning the making of any more TEC-9s.

;)

[Tom Servo]

The forum profanity filters prevent me from expressing how unhappy I am at the idea that my Linda carbine will be banned. I love that thing.

The list reads like exactly what it is: an attempt to regulate something for which the drafter has absolutely no understanding.

[kilimanjaro]

"Any semiautomatic version of an automatic weapon". I think they just banned the Mauser Broomhandle, it came in both versions. And any of the BATF-approved semiauto versions of famous old assault weapons and machine guns.

How about M-1 Carbine vs. the M-2?

[tonymazz]

I believe this is ultimately aimed and slowing the demand and drying up the supply over time.

It is just a "pie-in-the-sky" dream bill....has not passed muster yet and suggest they won't get it passed.....

...but then again "they" have done alot of things I didn't think would happen....:mad:

[ronl]

The so called substantiation of the bill according to the so called study is totally skewed in comparison to the FBI statistics compiled during the last gun ban. FBI stats showed very little use of "assault" rifles(used in less than 2% of reported gun crimes). The "stats" are pure BS. More people killed with clubs and hammers than with rifles. Guess registration of bats and hammers will be next on the list.

[dsa1115]

Can I keep my sling shot?

[ScottRiqui]

If we're so all-fired concerned with the calculus of saving children's lives, we shouldn't be banning "assault rifles", we should be banning residential swimming pools and hot tubs. They kill more children 15 years and younger each year than rifles of *any* kind. Plus, it would be much easier:

1) No one "needs" a swimming pool or hot tub - they're of very limited usefulness other than a luxury/recreational item,

2) There are no pesky Constitutional protections for owning a swimming pool, and

3) It would be a heck of a lot harder to hide an illegal pool or hot tub than it will be to hide an illegal rifle.

[para.2]

From DiFi's own website, it seems,"Bill text will be made public after the bill is introduced."

Another instance of, "We have to pass this bill so you can find out what is in it!" ?

[Musketeer]

Hi from NY. We never thought a law as horrible as ours would pass then it was introduced with 20 minutes before a vote was called and no debate at 10pm... Assume nothing, kill this now. Let us be your example.

[Musketeer]

ScottRiqui, on Long Island they had code enforcement people reviewing google satellite photos looking yard by yard to see who had pools without permits and then issuing fines.

[Xfire68]

The Beretta 93 full auto being a version of the 92 would ban those as well correct?

[kadar]

Anyone have the bill number?

S.150

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:S.150:

S.150
Latest Title: A bill to regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Feinstein, Dianne [CA] (introduced 1/24/2013) Cosponsors (17)
Latest Major Action: 1/24/2013 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.

[Mello2u]

Kadar posted the Senate number; S.150 of Feinstein's bill.
According to http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c113:S.150:

"The text of S.150 has not yet been received from GPO." as of 11:24 A.M. 1/25/2013.

[kadar]

Bill is available on feinsteins website

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons

Direct pdf link:
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve/?File_id=9a9270d5-ce4d-49fb-9b2f-69e69f517fb4