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nosy
November 26, 2011, 08:41 AM
Hallo!I'm restoring old firearms but in this case I'm helpless...Can anibody knows where to get some internal pictures,dravings od whatever about construction of this revolver?There is some missing parts.Thank You and have s good day!
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nosy
November 26, 2011, 08:45 AM
the same revolver...
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nosy
November 26, 2011, 08:59 AM
The cartridge used is 7,62 Nagant
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mapsjanhere
November 26, 2011, 09:11 AM
Definitely Belgian manufacture, full set of proof marks.
It's a version of the Nagant revolver made for Russia, but the nine shot cylinder is unusual. It's also missing the loading slider and the trigger guard.
This website (http://www.russianrevolvers.com/nagant_belg.html) mentions Spanish copies with 9 shot cylinders and faked Belgian marks, so you might have an example of 19th century counterfeiting.
James K
November 26, 2011, 09:52 PM
Unless by chance parts for the Russian Nagant will fit, I would say there is no hope of obtaining parts for that gun. I am afraid that it, like many thousands of old guns, will never be anything more than a wall hanger.
Jim
tater134
November 26, 2011, 10:38 PM
There is NO way that is a Belgian produced Nagant. Those proofs and the overall construction are extremely crude. It looks like one of the poorly made Spanish copies or possibly even a copy of Khyber Pass origin. Any real Nagant revolver parts most likely not fit and I would not even consider firing this revolver.
Jim Watson
November 26, 2011, 10:49 PM
Zhuk shows probably a dozen different variants of the Nagant revolver, but none just like this one. Restoration would involve some scrap iron, files, and a lot of time.
nosy
November 28, 2011, 05:31 AM
Thanks to all af Your for the help!I think I found what it is.This photo is from site
http://www.russianrevolvers.com/nagant_belg.html
Citate:Three line 9-shot Nagant revolver. Very good copy. Excellent quality finish. Accurate and powerfull. Cartridges loaded with smokeless powder and nickel-jacketed bullet in 7.62 mm caliber. Cartridge shown in actual size. Hard workmanship. The length of revolver with the handle 6 vershkov. Weight 2 and 1/8 pounds. Price 18 roubles
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And i think it's what I have.In the ZHUK's book I think this is it:
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And the book says that it's the fake Nagant from Piper.
I miss only two parts in revolver-pavl and trigger guard.And I must to made new cilinder because someone tried to made it to shoot 7,62x25 cartridges... Stupid enaugh!!!
THANKS TO ALL!!!
mete
November 28, 2011, 09:39 AM
Just ship it to Khyber Pass and they'll make it like new for a few dollars !:D:D
Hardcase
November 28, 2011, 10:58 AM
I, too, vote for a Spanish copy of a Belgian revolver, but not one of the "official" copies. I wouldn't put a penny into it, unless you plan on hanging it on a wall. Based on other Spanish copies of the era that I've seen, it's an accident waiting to happen.
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