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8shot357
August 23, 2011, 03:23 AM
I woke up this morning after spending $400 at the Black Jack (Vegas) table and wining back $300 before they kicked out my drunk butt out. I didn't drive, and was not carrying, for you........against... being stupid.:eek:

Anyway, in the morning, my gun buddy (My bro) called on the telephone, he told me about a deal, a Rock Island 1911a1 9mm for $385. So I ordered it on a credit still drunk.

I hope I didn't do the wrong thing, it seemed like a cool gun, and I have about 4000+rounds of 9mm ammo, and only 50 45acp's.

I'm asking, did I make a bad decision? At this point, I will soon learn, because I'm going to shoot the heck out of it.

PS: I transformed to a revolver guy.

C0untZer0
August 23, 2011, 05:56 AM
It sounds like you're still drunk...

zombieslayer
August 23, 2011, 07:41 AM
Not that I care, but it us technically illegal to purchase a gun drunk. Isnt it?

WC145
August 23, 2011, 07:56 AM
Good buy. This is one of the few decisions you'll ever make when drunk that you'll still be happy with when you sober up. Good solid gun that you'll get plenty of use out of.


Not that I care, but it us technically illegal to purchase a gun drunk. Isnt it?
Not that I've ever heard of. I think that about the only thing you're not allowed to buy when drunk is another drink....:rolleyes:

tubbyfirefighter
August 23, 2011, 08:08 AM
Ive looked at the Rock Island 1911 at my lgs, and they seem to be real nice guns. Pretty solid mechanics. It will be my next purchase. Im going with the 45 though, i have too many 9mm's

NJgunowner
August 23, 2011, 08:18 AM
It'll go bang.

As for buying things drunk, it is illegal in most states to get a tattoo drunk :p

C0untZer0
August 23, 2011, 10:26 AM
Getting a tatoo of a gun while you're drunk is too illegal to describe!

Mrgunsngear
August 23, 2011, 12:34 PM
I have one on the way (it'll be here on Thursday). I have had good experiences with my tactical 45 so I'm expecting the same with the 9mm. I paid $420 for mine so it looks like you made a good call.

zombieslayer
August 23, 2011, 01:57 PM
Im not quite sure which states laws this is from. Bit most every state is pretty similar.
Sec.*46.06.**UNLAWFUL TRANSFER OF CERTAIN WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person:
(1)**sells, rents, leases, loans, or gives a handgun to any person knowing that the person to whom the handgun is to be delivered intends to use it unlawfully or in the commission of an unlawful act;
(2)**intentionally or knowingly sells, rents, leases, or gives or offers to sell, rent, lease, or give to any child younger than 18 years any firearm, club, or illegal knife;
(3)**intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly sells a firearm or ammunition for a firearm to any person who is intoxicated;
(4)**knowingly sells a firearm or ammunition for a firearm to any person who has been convicted of a felony before the fifth anniversary of the later of the following dates:
(A)**the person's release from confinement following conviction of the felony; or
(B)**the person's release from supervision under community supervision, parole, or mandatory supervision following conviction of the felony;
(5)**sells, rents, leases, loans, or gives a handgun to any person knowing that an active protective order is directed to the person to whom the handgun is to be delivered; or
(6)**knowingly purchases, rents, leases, or receives as a loan or gift from another a handgun while an active protective order is directed to the actor.
(b)**In this section:
(1)**"Intoxicated" means substantial impairment of mental or physical capacity resulting from introduction of any substance into the body.
(2)**"Active protective order" means a protective order issued under Title 4, Family Code, that is in effect. The term does not include a temporary protective order issued before the court holds a hearing on the matter.
(c)**It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)(2) that the transfer was to a minor whose parent or the person having legal custody of the minor had given written permission for the sale or, if the transfer was other than a sale, the parent or person having legal custody had given effective consent.
(d)**An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor, except that an offense under Subsection (a)(2) is a state jail felony if the weapon that is the subject of the offense is a handgun.

Roland Thunder
August 23, 2011, 02:07 PM
Yes, it sounds like you made some bad decisions and I don't mean the gun.

Rabbitt
August 23, 2011, 02:32 PM
I have an RIA 9mm and I enjoy and like it. Good price you got as I paid $495 new earlier this year for mine.

scottl
August 23, 2011, 02:39 PM
Not that I care, but it us technically illegal to purchase a gun drunk. Isnt it?
He said he ordered it.They probably didn't know he was drunk.

zombieslayer
August 23, 2011, 04:22 PM
I'm just saying... Technically it was. I seriously doubt the atf are going to descend upon his house or compound.
Buying a gun while drunk, even if it were legal, still isnt a great idea. Thats how folks end up with Deagles and Judges! :p

KyJim
August 23, 2011, 05:55 PM
Im not quite sure which states laws this is from. Bit most every state is pretty similar.Respectfully, that's a pretty useless piece of information. You don't even know what state it's from and you assume every state has something similar. I can tell you that it doesn't look like anything from my state. Not sure about the other 49.

zombieslayer
August 23, 2011, 05:59 PM
Pardon me mr ky. It was to be a generic example as im not going to pull up a link or quote from every state. They all have some language about intoxication. But if you want, I'll pm you a link to whatever states laws youd like to read. Im fairly certain it was texas law that I pulled up in my quick google search. Sorry that you felt it was useless. I dont feel that it was or is. Its an example. Good sir.
Now that I'm home and comfortable, I've looked and not every state prohibits the sale of a firearm to an intoxicated person. But Im pretty sure a normal gun dealing business wouldnt sell a drunk guy a gun. Im sure 8shot know the guy and vice versa. I was just bored at work. Figured discussion would cure it.

WC145
August 23, 2011, 07:44 PM
Not that I care, but it us technically illegal to purchase a gun drunk. Isnt it?
I'm just saying... Technically it was. I seriously doubt the atf are going to descend upon his house or compound.
Buying a gun while drunk, even if it were legal, still isnt a great idea. Thats how folks end up with Deagles and Judges!
Pardon me mr ky. It was to be a generic example as im not going to pull up a link or quote from every state. They all have some language about intoxication. But if you want, I'll pm you a link to whatever states laws youd like to read. Im fairly certain it was texas law that I pulled up in my quick google search. Sorry that you felt it was useless. I dont feel that it was or is. Its an example. Good sir.
Now that I'm home and comfortable, I've looked and not every state prohibits the sale of a firearm to an intoxicated person. But Im pretty sure a normal gun dealing business wouldnt sell a drunk guy a gun. Im sure 8shot know the guy and vice versa. I was just bored at work. Figured discussion would cure it.

For someone that doesn't care, you really seem wound up about this. The OP ordered a gun while intoxicated. So what? Don't sweat it, if that is the worse thing he ever does while drinking he's going to be some damn lucky.

zombieslayer
August 23, 2011, 07:55 PM
Well at least he doesnt get drunk and buy Deagles and Judges. ;)
Sorry for giving you a hard time 8shot. Bottoms up sir.

KyJim
August 23, 2011, 11:06 PM
It was to be a generic example That was my whole point. Relying on "generic laws" is a good way to run afoul of the law of a particular state. I wasn't trying to come down on you. I just wanted to make my point clear.

And, for the record, I hope the OP exercises some better judgment once he gets the gun. It's his business if and how much he drinks and parties -- unless he picks up a gun while intoxicated. Guns and alcohol don't mix. Lost a friend that way.

8shot357
August 24, 2011, 12:38 AM
Sorry, I ordered it on-line from Bud's at my home.

The only reason I order it then, was, I didn't want it to be sold if I waited.

My brother found it on line, called me at home to tell me about it. I thought at that price it would be gone if I waited. I should not have mentioned I had been drinking. So I deserved to get flamed.

They had a 38 super 1911 too, I was considering it, but my brother talk me into the 9mm, and I'm glad he did.

PS: I leave the guns alone when drinking, and I had a nice 12hr nap:D

8shot357
August 24, 2011, 12:50 AM
Ohhh, by the way, now sober, I'm glad I ordered it.

Don Glock
August 24, 2011, 12:54 AM
don't drink and post lol

egor20
August 24, 2011, 01:07 AM
What happens in "Vegas",
stays in "Vegas".





Unless of course you post it on TFL :D

Good luck with Rock, I like Armscor handguns, and own 3 of them.

Uncle Malice
August 24, 2011, 08:43 AM
Zombieslayer,

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but when he said he "ordered it on credit" I was figuring he got it online. Nothing wrong with doing that when you're drunk...

Of course you can't do the 4473 while under the influence, but that's a whole other ballgame. :)

dgludwig
August 24, 2011, 11:50 AM
Sorry that you felt it was useless. I dont feel that it was or is. Its an example.

I sure didn't think what you posted was "useless". Though only an "example" of what any one state requires, it doesn't follow that the effort you put into your post was "useless information". Well, maybe it was to KyJim but I found it pretty darn interesting..."hic" :D

MJ45
August 24, 2011, 11:57 AM
it was a better move than giving your money to the casino. why didn't the military do that when they wanted to replace the 1911 45.

8shot357
August 24, 2011, 01:39 PM
Your order has been updated to the following status.

New status: Shipped

The new guy there didn't offer me shipping insurance.:eek:

Thank god I put it on a CC.

zombieslayer
August 24, 2011, 02:24 PM
Congrats on a really good deal. I need to buy a RIA while theyre so affordable. I've been meaning to grab one at a gunshow for a few gunshows now. You did well. Especially under the circumstances :D

C0untZer0
August 24, 2011, 02:43 PM
Buying a firearm while under the influence of alcohol would seem to fall doubly under the pervue of ATF.

Were you also smoking black market ciggs at the time?

8shot357
August 24, 2011, 09:07 PM
Buying a firearm while under the influence of alcohol would seem to fall doubly under the pervue of ATF.

Please, explain that, it was a phone purchase DB! No, really!!!:mad:

Were you also smoking black market ciggs at the time?

Smoking what?!!!:eek: Pervue of ATF?:rolleyes: What are you smoking, or drinking?

8shot357
September 2, 2011, 05:09 AM
I had a little reservations after ordering it, being I'm not ga ga over 1911s (sorry).

I just picked it up, drunk as heck! No, not really, just kidding.

When I was waiting for the back ground check, an older guy came in obviously they knew him, maybe lives close buy, a single guy (profiling, hair dyed black 60-70). They ask him what he was looking for, he said I'm thinking about getting a 1911:eek:, I thought for a second, maybe he would take this NIB 1911A1 9mm off my hands, sense I need it like a hole in my head (a 9mm hole), but that's conflict of interest, and I wasn't sure I wanted to sell it yet.

LSS, I got it, I like it, and it has a really nice trigger pull, maybe around or less that's stated by RIA.

I will report as soon as it gets into the 90s in Vegas, not 110, I can't wait, but I will. But I have shot the 45 version, and was impressed. I think I did better with this than if I got a Taurus.:D

new_scopeshooter
September 2, 2011, 06:34 AM
first off he didnt actualy buy the firearm untill it arrives at his ffl.... and they run the transfer!!!! if he shows up to get the gun drunk.. then it would be a problem....


ps that seems like a good deal on a nice gun!!!!!!!!

Dashunde
September 2, 2011, 08:38 AM
^Agreed. He didnt take possession, he simply entered his card into a internet site.

I've gone around a few times with buying that same gun because of its price and a good reputation + its just kinda cool, but in the end I pass.
It has a low round count and its too heavy/overbuilt for 9mm, which is great for a tack-driving range gun with target sights, but thats not what this gun is.

I want one, but I just cant find a niche or use for it - nowadays I spend on pure target pistols that truly deliver accuracy, or I buy ccw's that I dont even bother using the sights with most of the time.

serf 'rett
September 2, 2011, 09:27 AM
Looking forward to the range report.

I found it interesting reading some of the previous posts which tend to point toward it being illegal to "intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly sells a firearm or ammunition for a firearm to any person who is intoxicated.”

It would be interesting to review the actual laws of your resident state. In the case presented above, it is the seller who steps off into the deep stinky stuff, not our inebriated friend. In this case, there seems to be no law against him attempting to purchase, while smashed. Woe to the seller who sells to him.

rvehock
September 2, 2011, 11:21 AM
Just picked up this very slightly used 1911A1-45FS RIA this week for a $350. Took it home cleaned it and then went to the range and put 50 rounds of Federal 230gr FMJ through it and it was flawless. This is my first .45 1911 so I did not know what to expect but I was very impressed with the trigger and the overall accuracy. I just ordered 3 more 8-round Novak magazines and 200 rounds of ammo for my next trip to the range for a proper breakin. Here it is, not very pretty but shoots like a dream so far:

http://vehock.dyndns.org/guns/RIA%201911/RIA_1.jpg
http://vehock.dyndns.org/guns/RIA%201911/RIA_2.jpg

Rugerismisticness
September 2, 2011, 08:03 PM
Good choice, now sell it for 450$ and grab an STI trojan 9mm or Para P18.9 (JK):p. the RIA will do ya fine, they can be great shooters.

sailskidrive
September 2, 2011, 09:16 PM
I would like to get one of these in 9mm and one in 38 Super. I never sell off any of my guns but I found my Remingtom Rand 1911 in the back of the safe last week. I completely forgot I owned it and don't shoot it because of it's collector status. I'm thinking it would be nice to own something that i can shoot instead without feeling guilty.