buying a new double 12g?

[Wild_Card]

hello guys, could some one recommend a double barrel shot gun in the 12g 3ich. my price range would be in the 800$ range.iv found one at wallmart made by winchester iirc.it was a good looking over under but it had a alloy receaver and im not sure how well that would hold up over the years so i would like to find one with a all steel construction. also i would rather have one that is full chock and not the kind that has modified chocks.
Also would a 12g with a alloy receiver be ok? i want a gun that will last a long time not just a throw away ;) i know 800$ is not a lot of cash when talking double barrels but i was hopeing some one would know of a good one at that price. thanks in advance.

[Wild_Card]

http://cz-usa.com/products/view/hammer-classic/

would that be a good gun?

[Dave McC]

Good quality USED O/Us fall into your budget. Look for a used Browning, Beretta, Winchester, Miroku, SKB, or Mariocchi.

There's some great little known Spanish and Italian guns, but lots of junk also. Venture there at your peril.

[oneounceload]

Seconding Dave, for $800 some decent used guns from SKB, Beretta, Browning may be available. There have been Lanbers from CDNN available for a while now (so I am not sure if any are left), that were a steal at about $600.

If you are talking about a few rounds of trap/skeet to warm up for hunting, and then not a lot of shells a year, a CZ MIGHT be worth looking at. If you want something that WILL last, AND can be repaired by any gunsmith worthy of the title, the Beretta, Browning, SKB get the nod

[BigJimP]

+ 1 to what they all said ...

I can't recommend the CZ either ....its just too hit and miss on quality and a lot of other issues - like point of impact regulation..

You might add Ruger into your mix / they aren't nearly as good a gun as Browning or Beretta ...but there seem to be a few decent examples around on the used market.

In my opinion, don't buy a gun with a fixed "choke" - like a Full. It makes the gun way more versatile - if it has screw in changeable chokes - and you can use it for a number of different things. But you will find fixed choke guns / will be less expensive on the used market.

The downside to an alloy receiver / is you just need to be careful when you connect the barrels to the receiver - and not gall anything. But an alloy receiver isn't inherently less durable / and its plenty strong enough - you just need to be a little more careful with it / but you should on any gun anyway taking the barrels off or on ...

[Wild_Card]

darn i was hoping the CZ's would get the nod. o well thanks for cluing me in.

[oneounceload]

It's not that the CZ WON'T work - it is merely a question of how well and how LONG it will do so. Currently, (and they are getting better), they are hit and miss - some are working out great, some are not. The question then becomes - are you willing to spend 500-900 on a gun that MAY work when you're in the middle of a hunt? Or do you want a gun that will work in that scenario? That's where the used B gun tends to get the nod, as it is hard to beat for durability AND ease of repair (without having to send it back to the factory - any decent smith can fix a Beretta or Browning)

[Wild_Card]

thanks for all the suggestions guys. i'll look around and see if i can find a used gun of the suggested brands thats in my price range. i checked there web sites to see what new prices on those were, my gosh there high. why is a simple double barrel shotgun 2000$ and up? i can find good pump and autos for 500$ or so. seems like the pumps ect would cost more? Any way i have one other id like to get suggestions on. what about one of these

http://www.mossberg.com/products/default.asp?id=15&display=feat

i dont need any thing overly fancy or high end. i'll be using it just to shot turkeys ect every now and then, but i do want one that is built tough,something i can be some what proud of ;). i always heard mossberg made a good shot gun but id want to get the nod from you guys before i bought one. also is there a big def in reliabilty ect between over and under vs side by side.

[the rifleer]

I have a friend who bought a cz ultralight. He uses it for trap and skeet about once a month and for all around hunting. If thats all you are using it for then its perfect. Its not a competition gun made for tens of thousands of rounds every year, but for what most people us it for, it is very well made and is a very nice gun. I'd easily buy a CZ O/U from my experience with them.

If you are shooting very heavily (hundreds/thousands a week), then i would certainly invest in a solid trap/skeet gun. However, if you shoot like most people do a CZ is a fine and dandy gun.

[oneounceload]

why is a simple double barrel shotgun 2000$ and up?

This has been beat to death previously, but it simply comes down to more labor-intensive involvement in the machining, barrel regulation and final fitting/finishing; more labor = higher prices

[Wild_Card]

rgr that. Does any one have any opinions on the mossberg i linked above? the one i would get would be the 12g with 28inch barrel

[OkieCruffler]

Mossberg MAKES good shotguns, however they IMPORT some rather questionable ones. If your heart is set on a SXS (and I can't imagine why it wouldn't be) You could find a very nice used Savage, Fox , or Ithica well within your price range.

[pythagorean]

Ah. The double.
It doubles your pleasure.
They are expensive.
Two guns in one.
If I was limited to $800 I'd look for an 1100 Rem and use that until I had 2 or 3 grand to spend.

[darkgael]

Nothing points like a SXS.
Here's the view down an old Parker that I picked up for half your budget (an old LeFever used up the other half).
http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr287/PeteDoyle/PICT0052.jpg

Pete

PS - I did not shoot the light fixture.

[krimmie]

PS - I did not shoot the light fixture.

As long as that fixture was moving right to left, you looked fine. What kind of decoy spread did you use?:)

[Noonan]

CDNN has some great deals in their current catalog. Browning, Winchester, Lanber, and others.