View Full Version : Bolt or AR style for coyote?
Blacktail_Slayer
January 24, 2008, 12:23 PM
I am getting a coyote gun soon in 223 and am not sure if I want a bolt action or AR. I want decent accuracy out to 200 yards. I would like to at least be able to hit a cd at 200, and with practice, I would like to be able to hit a paper plate at 300. If I get a bolt gun it will most likely be a Stevens model 200. Also, I dont know too much about ARs, what would be an average price for one that could be as accurate as I am looking for?
I will do quite a bit of plinking up in the hills with it too.
Wiskey_33
January 24, 2008, 01:27 PM
Do some reading at www.ar15.com
I, personally, would prefer the AR. That's my opinion. (maybe because i have one!;))
Check out Rock River Arms, DPMS, Bushmaster.....etc...
They're all affordable, and you can even build one for cheaper.
Again, go to the above website and you can get a lot of information.
Wiskey
Buzzcook
January 24, 2008, 02:42 PM
The Stevens 200 will do better than dinner plates at 300yds. Dinner plates with a bolt gun are 500yds.
An AR will hit out to 300yds as well if you get a well made one. I'm not very knowledgeable about AR's except that their very fun to shoot.
rgitzlaff
January 24, 2008, 02:49 PM
An AR should be able to match your Steven's bolt gun for accuracy given they are both shooting the same round, and you have a decent free floated barrel on the AR.
YukonKid
January 24, 2008, 03:01 PM
neither...FN FAl :)
If i was choosing i would go bolt action. I dislike the AR set up and bolts are more acurate as a rule
hoytinak
January 24, 2008, 03:03 PM
I use a Bushmaster Predator as my coyote/prairie dog gun up in North Texas and it works great for me. My father has a Savage .223 bolt action that he uses, both will do the job. I think I'm able to get of a second shot quicker though and it may be me but I think my AR is more accurate too. :D
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5060/bushypredatorug3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
USNairman
January 24, 2008, 03:46 PM
I like to hunt with one of my AR-15's when I coyote hunt. If I plan to do a lot of walking then I grab a 16" AR and if I plan to sit on an open field then I like the 20" AR.
Blacktail_Slayer
January 24, 2008, 03:48 PM
Is there any chance of me getting an AR with decent accuracy for $600 or less? All the ones I am finding are at least $800
USNairman
January 24, 2008, 03:55 PM
yes! Buy you a kit from Model 1 sales for under $500 and then buy a stripped lower for under $100 and you have a complete rifle for under $600.
The Mod 1 uppers aren't bad rifles at all.
http://www.model1sales.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=KSE200&storeid=1&image=s20prek.gif
rgitzlaff
January 24, 2008, 04:23 PM
An upper kit and stripped lower won't get you a complete rifle. You'll still need probably another $75 at least of parts. You'll need the lower parts kit with the pins, springs, and fire control group, bolt release, detents, mag catch. You'll also need to buy a buttstock, buffer, buffer spring, buffer tube. Some of them come together, some come seperately. Don't let some of these guys make it sound TOO simple. Don't get me wrong, it's pretty simple, you just have to make sure you have all the parts you need. Just look at an exploded parts drawing of an AR and you'll see all you need. Shop around for parts and you should be able to build something for the price you are specifying.
hoytinak
January 24, 2008, 04:27 PM
An upper kit and stripped lower won't get you a complete rifle. You'll still need probably another $75 at least of parts. You'll need the lower parts kit with the pins, springs, and fire control group, bolt release, detents, mag catch. You'll also need to buy a buttstock, buffer, buffer spring, buffer tube. Some of them come together, some come seperately. Don't let some of these guys make it sound TOO simple. Don't get me wrong, it's pretty simple, you just have to make sure you have all the parts you need. Just look at an exploded parts drawing of an AR and you'll see all you need. Shop around for parts and you should be able to build something for the price you are specifying.
He was refering the kits Model 1 sales that are complete minus your stripped lower. They have all different options but here's an example: http://www.model1sales.com/catalog-list.cfm?Category=01&Subcat=16%2Dinch%20C%2EA%2ER%2E&storeid=1
beardenbc
January 24, 2008, 04:32 PM
Ever consider a Remington model 799 for coyote?
Blacktail_Slayer
January 24, 2008, 04:38 PM
If I am going to get a bolt gun, I will get a Stevens, or Savage (same dif) If I spend the extra money it will be on a semi-auto
USNairman
January 24, 2008, 04:42 PM
rgitzlaff,
You see, it can be that "simple"!:p
rgitzlaff
January 24, 2008, 06:50 PM
Cool, I stand corrected. I didn't know they offered that. I'll have to show that to a buddy of mine, he might be interested.
hpg
January 24, 2008, 06:59 PM
No brainer, definately an AR15......hpg
10-96
January 24, 2008, 07:20 PM
The neat thing about AR's is- if you get a complete rifle ready to go, you can buy another uppper to change your shooting style. Such as, a 20" or 16" flat top for varminting in .223/5.56 And then later on, you can get a 6.8Rem SPC for bigger critters. Or, you may find yourself into race-gun or CMP style match shooting. Either way, once you get a lower- anything else that tickles your fancy you can have sent to your door.
dodge
January 25, 2008, 11:10 AM
In some states (Pa.) you can't use a semi for hunting so you have to use a bolt action.
garryc
January 25, 2008, 11:28 AM
Generally when I varmint hunt I carry two or more rifles and a pistol. When I get an AR it will be included in that battery. If I stop on a property that has broken terrain and the yotes are going to likely pop up close, inside say 150-200yrds I'll carry the AR, (The current gun for that is a CZ 527 223) If it's long range I take the 22-250 or the 243 depending on wind. Just leave the other in the truck. Two of the properties I visit are shotty areas.
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