FirstFreedom
June 21, 2006, 11:16 PM
OK, just did a little house testing on anti-Grackle rounds. Tested the following 3 ammos in two rifles, a Rossi single shot, and Winchester 69A turnbolt:
1. Aguila Super Colibri
2. RWS / Dynamit-Nobel "6mm BB Cap" (Flobert-Rundkugeln)
3. RWS / Dynamit-Nobel "6mm CB Cap" (Flobert-Spitzkugeln)
The Aguilas are the length of .22 longs, and both RWSs are very short & stubby - shorter than .22 shorts. Despite being labeled 6mm, they are .22s.
Results:
A. Accuracy Ranking:
1. Tie - Aguila Super Colibri and RWS CB Caps - the Spitz/pointed bullet ones - if anything the Aguila may have been a smidgeon more accurate, but they are very close.
3. A distant last place of the 3 are the BB Caps (round bullet). Dunno why these are worse than the pointed ones, but horrid accuracy (2 inches @ 10 yards).
B. Quietness (surprise):
1. The Super Colibris are much, much quieter than the RWS's - no comparison. The Super Colibris are roughly as loud as a magnum springer airgun, or less, and the two RWS ammos are much closer to CCI CB cap longs.
2. Tie - Both RWS's
C. Feeding:
1. The Super Colibris feed perfectly fine one at a time in the single shot with ejector, and stacked 5 high in the mag of the turnbolt repeater, all fed fine if I cycled fast. If not, sometimes they would pop high, but with a manual push down on the front of the round, they would slide in.
2. Tie - But the short stubby RWS's are hard to place in the single shot without them falling under the ejector, and sometimes they fall under the ejector upon attempted ejection, which then requires a pocket knife to extract the case. A PITA in the S.S. In the turnbolt, they would actually feed great from the mag, but only 1 at a time, not stacked up.
D. Ballistics:
1. Tie RWS CB & BB - Both are supposed to be 17 gr @ 750 fps; stands to reason as they are much louder. But this is right at standard .22 airgun performance, with more noise, so....
3. Super Colibri is supposed to be 20 grains @ 500 fps (whereas the regular colibri was/is 20 gr @ 375 fps).
E. Game Performance: Mostly unknown at this point. I was really hoping for good accuracy on the BB caps, as the round profile should be devastating on grackles & starlings, but alas, that was the round with the terrible accuracy, and thus completely unusable in the guns I have designated for pests. So very disappointed in that fact. The pointed profile is the same on the CB caps and the Super Colibris. Good for penetration, but that's not really needed on birdies. The Super Colibris work very well on grackles. For some reason, starlings are tough little numnuts, sometimes dropping but sometimes flying off after being hit with these or .177 pellets.
F. Price:
1. Super Colibri: $3.80 for 100, and $19.00 for 500, @ www.22ammo.com
2. Tie - Both RWSs: $16.95 for 100, and $78.25 for 500, @ same place
All in all, looks like hell is a cold place these days, since Mexican ammo is as good or better than German ammo at over 4 times the price!! :eek: :mad: However, I can see a place for the faster CB Caps - Urban Crows, which are tougher than starlings & grackles - the extra vel should help with rapid expansion, and add a tad more range, since crows are so wary. Still, too loud for common urban use. Maybe this time of year (around the 4th of July), no one would think twice of the sound, however.
http://www.korabrno.cz/bal-22.html
http://www.22ammo.com/aquila.html
http://www.22ammo.com/rws.html
Edit: Wow, heck of popular topic, I see. Was a single person helped by this even? :)
1. Aguila Super Colibri
2. RWS / Dynamit-Nobel "6mm BB Cap" (Flobert-Rundkugeln)
3. RWS / Dynamit-Nobel "6mm CB Cap" (Flobert-Spitzkugeln)
The Aguilas are the length of .22 longs, and both RWSs are very short & stubby - shorter than .22 shorts. Despite being labeled 6mm, they are .22s.
Results:
A. Accuracy Ranking:
1. Tie - Aguila Super Colibri and RWS CB Caps - the Spitz/pointed bullet ones - if anything the Aguila may have been a smidgeon more accurate, but they are very close.
3. A distant last place of the 3 are the BB Caps (round bullet). Dunno why these are worse than the pointed ones, but horrid accuracy (2 inches @ 10 yards).
B. Quietness (surprise):
1. The Super Colibris are much, much quieter than the RWS's - no comparison. The Super Colibris are roughly as loud as a magnum springer airgun, or less, and the two RWS ammos are much closer to CCI CB cap longs.
2. Tie - Both RWS's
C. Feeding:
1. The Super Colibris feed perfectly fine one at a time in the single shot with ejector, and stacked 5 high in the mag of the turnbolt repeater, all fed fine if I cycled fast. If not, sometimes they would pop high, but with a manual push down on the front of the round, they would slide in.
2. Tie - But the short stubby RWS's are hard to place in the single shot without them falling under the ejector, and sometimes they fall under the ejector upon attempted ejection, which then requires a pocket knife to extract the case. A PITA in the S.S. In the turnbolt, they would actually feed great from the mag, but only 1 at a time, not stacked up.
D. Ballistics:
1. Tie RWS CB & BB - Both are supposed to be 17 gr @ 750 fps; stands to reason as they are much louder. But this is right at standard .22 airgun performance, with more noise, so....
3. Super Colibri is supposed to be 20 grains @ 500 fps (whereas the regular colibri was/is 20 gr @ 375 fps).
E. Game Performance: Mostly unknown at this point. I was really hoping for good accuracy on the BB caps, as the round profile should be devastating on grackles & starlings, but alas, that was the round with the terrible accuracy, and thus completely unusable in the guns I have designated for pests. So very disappointed in that fact. The pointed profile is the same on the CB caps and the Super Colibris. Good for penetration, but that's not really needed on birdies. The Super Colibris work very well on grackles. For some reason, starlings are tough little numnuts, sometimes dropping but sometimes flying off after being hit with these or .177 pellets.
F. Price:
1. Super Colibri: $3.80 for 100, and $19.00 for 500, @ www.22ammo.com
2. Tie - Both RWSs: $16.95 for 100, and $78.25 for 500, @ same place
All in all, looks like hell is a cold place these days, since Mexican ammo is as good or better than German ammo at over 4 times the price!! :eek: :mad: However, I can see a place for the faster CB Caps - Urban Crows, which are tougher than starlings & grackles - the extra vel should help with rapid expansion, and add a tad more range, since crows are so wary. Still, too loud for common urban use. Maybe this time of year (around the 4th of July), no one would think twice of the sound, however.
http://www.korabrno.cz/bal-22.html
http://www.22ammo.com/aquila.html
http://www.22ammo.com/rws.html
Edit: Wow, heck of popular topic, I see. Was a single person helped by this even? :)