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Old January 11, 2002, 02:39 AM   #1
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Carry and Conceal: Best State/County for Easiest Permit???

I am going to apply for my carry and conceal permit.

Are there certain states/counties that are easier to get a carry and conceal?

Thanks,

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Old January 11, 2002, 03:03 AM   #2
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www.packing.org is a good resource for that kind of information. I'm from New Hampshire where they still have respect for the US Constitution. I had no problem at all.
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Old January 11, 2002, 03:36 AM   #3
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Vermont - If you can own a gun, you can carry it concealed, no permit or paperwork required. Now THAT'S whatcha call Constitutional respect!

Virginia hasn't been bad to me - Shall issue concealed permits within 45 days of application, open carry with no permits.
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Old January 11, 2002, 03:49 AM   #4
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Washington state you just walk in and get one
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Old January 11, 2002, 10:51 AM   #5
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Oklahoma was not as easy as some but as far as the schooling goes, you will not fail the class, they want your money. As for the other requirements again they want your money. I had a little run in with the law sometime back in my little po-dunk town. I was issued a pub.intox, DUI, contributing to a minor, transporting open container while in possession of firearms. I never served one second of jail time, 5 cops/cnty sherrifs at the scene and not one of them could figure how to get the magazine out of my MKII pistol. I was NEVER taken to jail, I lived across the road and after the other cops left, the one that had me in his car said if he didn't see me anymore he'd let me go, so I agreed. I had my day in court with a lawyer who was also fighting a DUI he was issued, to a judge that when my mom and dad got a divorce, my dad and he had a disagreement and whooped his a$$ in the court house and walked out,yeah only in Seq. cnty. Well all that was "taken care of" supposedly by my lawyer & we settled on a pub.intox, payed my fine and everything was okie dokie, I got my guns back and all. UNTILL I went to get my CC permit. I went to get finger printed to send to the OSBI for a background check, they ran my drivers liscense and GUESS WHAT everything still showed up on my record. They asked me if I've ever been in jail, no I say, "never"? no. Have you ever been finger printed? no. How can you have all these charges and not been in jail? I explained what happened and she said she'll be right back, about 20 minutes later her she is and say's OK everything taken care of, go take get your picture taken downstairs and you should here something within 90days. So I had my picture taken gave them more money and 6wks BAM I'm a CC now baby. One thing I've learned COPS ARE NOT ALWAYS RIGHT and IF YOU LIVE IN SEQ.CNTY AND CAN'T GET OUT OF TROUBLE YOU NEED TO LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE. Wait that's 2. The whole story is actually longer & has more detail but you get the idea...They want your money.
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Old January 11, 2002, 03:30 PM   #6
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Washington state you just walk in and get one
Not so--you have to get 'printed and wait for the Feds to clear you, up to 2 months.
The good news is, if you're a US citizen but not a WA resident, you can get one the same way. Even Calipornians. You have to come here, though

As noted, VT has the easiest (Read: The Best) by far.
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Old January 11, 2002, 03:48 PM   #7
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New Hampshire

New Hampshire is shall issue. I was required to submit a 1 page form with 3 refrences to the local PD. None of the refrences were contacted. About 2 weeks later I got a letter to come pick up my permit. Cost: $10. No fingerprinting. No mandatory training. Almost no restrictions on where I can carry.

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Old January 11, 2002, 04:23 PM   #8
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Vermont. No permit required.
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Old January 11, 2002, 04:31 PM   #9
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Not so--you have to get 'printed and wait for the Feds to clear you, up to 2 months.
The good news is, if you're a US citizen but not a WA resident, you can get one the same way. Even Calipornians. You have to come here, though

Really? I don't remember my friend telling me about the wait. Maybe I was just too impressed by the "walk-in, fill out the form, no class or test" part to listen......
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Old January 11, 2002, 04:40 PM   #10
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Good ole Kern County in the PRK. The best thing about living in Kern County in the PRK is you can get a CCW very easily and then travel through the rest of this liberal bastion of peace and prosperity in comfort as the rest of the fools run around thinking that the world is great and no harm comes from the unarmed populace. That is until suddenly they are robbed and wonder where the police are to protect them. You will be the envy of all of your friends when they find out. "How did you get that? My sheriff only issued 8 permits last year?" Your reply, "Move!" Now if I could only buy an AR-15 life would be good again.
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Old January 11, 2002, 04:56 PM   #11
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Just did a quick check at Monster - About 250 total jobs listed in Vermont, vs. 5,000 for NYC...

I'd start by going there, then to your largest local libraries, and looking for newspapers... Run through the classifieds.

Dang, it _is_ tempting...
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Old January 11, 2002, 05:13 PM   #12
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Nevada, Arizona and Oregon all have no license to buy & carry, shall-issue for concealed carry. I'm moving out of California the moment I'm done with college.
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Old January 11, 2002, 05:30 PM   #13
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New Hampshire Permit Info???

I am a rookie on this so I am just starting to get educated so be patient with me. I live in Colorado. I have no record or been in jail or anything but I understood that getting a CWP was difficult here in Colorado. If it is then I would like to apply in a different state and have it be applicable here in Colorado.

So New Hampshire is the easiest? Are New Hampshire permits honored in most other states?

I went to this site:

http://www.packing.org/state/index.jsp/new+hampshire

and they said the following:

"How do I apply for a permit?
Non-resident: Send proof of training, fee, application, and copy of your home state issued permit, permit arrived with a couple weeks. "

When I go to the Colorado page of the site above it says that Colorado DOES NOT honor other states permits. It looks like I may be SOL.

So do I have to have a home state permit to get one from New Hampshire?

Do you have a source in New Hampshire to get a permit?
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Old January 11, 2002, 05:37 PM   #14
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Here's a qustion. Since it was mentioned that Washington 'Shall
Issue' to US citizens, regardless of residency, are there any
US States that will issue a non-resident CCW to a foreign
citizen who visits the US for either training or IDPA/IPSC
competition?

I know that Vermont CCW applies to foreigners, as long as
you fit the criteria for bringing your handguns into the US, but
what about the other 49 states?

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Old January 11, 2002, 05:47 PM   #15
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So do I have to have a home state permit to get one from New Hampshire?
From what I understand the reason for this is to keep the cost down. If you do not have a permit I had heard that they will accept a letter from the police department to the effect that you have no felonies, etc.

From packing.org, the only states that will honor a NH non-resident permit are: Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, North Dakota, Utah, and Wyoming. If your looking to get a NH permit to be able to carry in Colorado, it won't work.

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Old January 11, 2002, 06:09 PM   #16
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Indiana is very easy. 20 bucks, fill out the form, a week or two later(chk for previous felonies/mental history)you've got your permit. Just avoid Gary and Bloomington and from what I have heard around here, Evansville.
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Old January 11, 2002, 10:17 PM   #17
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Florida. Have to have training but don't have to live there.
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Old January 12, 2002, 12:18 AM   #18
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Arizona will issue to out of state residents. Im a resident of Ohio and have gotten mine here in Arizona. It took a 16 hour class and about 21 days wait to recieve my CCW permit. The class was $80 and permit was $50.
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Old January 12, 2002, 12:41 AM   #19
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I agree: Indiana was a cinch. Actually, I ended up paying a total of $25 ($15 for the permit itself, a $10 "sheriff's fee") but they typed everything for me and handled everything on their end - not like elsewhere where they will give you the forms and some regulations and say "bring 'em back when you've filled 'em out"
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Old January 12, 2002, 09:35 AM   #20
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Indiana's very good, but you still have to apply for the license. There is no concealment requirement. I look forward to Vermont style law here.

2ndAmendment, I never had any problems in Bloomington when I lived there for undergrad. In fact, Bloomington PD mailed me the little pink license in 8 days! Gary got itself sued silly and lost big time. Don't know about E-ville PD. Why would there be problems down there? Hmmm.
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Old January 12, 2002, 09:49 AM   #21
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KSFreeman, I agree Vermont has the best system but what will it take to get that? Anyone here believe that will expand to other states in the next five years? Others have said the Virginia system is pretty good, I got mine in 8 days (in the mail) and there is no permit required for open carry.
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Old January 12, 2002, 11:55 AM   #22
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If your plan is to stay in CO, but get a permit from somewhere else, forget it. An out of state permit will not be honored anywhere in CO, much less in Denver, where you live.

There are ways to get a permit in CO, but it has a lot to do with who you know, unless you live in Boulder, Douglas, Adams, Larimer, or El PAso county. The sheriffs in those jurisdictions handle permits basically as a shall issue thing; if you are clean and can demonstrate some degree of competence, they will issue to you, but you have to live there.

Check out some of the threads at www.packing.org for more information and specifics.
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Old January 14, 2002, 10:25 AM   #23
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When I lived in SC, it required a shooting course, some fingerprinting and other paperwork and then State Law Enforcement Division processed the paperwork in what I thought was a timely fashion. rate it a good experience.

Moved to VA, done at the the county level, had I kept up with my certification from the SC it would have been easier but another shooting course, same kind of paperwork (fingerprints, etc.) and Circuit Court processed paperwork in a timely fashion. rate it another good experience with the caveat that since issue is at county level it COULD vary from county to county. Would be interested to hear from other VA CCWers.
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Old January 14, 2002, 01:26 PM   #24
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Fill out the form, pay 10 bucks, wait about 2 weeks, take it out of the envelope, put it in your wallet. Good for five years.
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Old January 14, 2002, 02:54 PM   #25
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I believe PA is the easiest:
You walk in, get fingerprinted, do a NCIC (or is it NICS?) check and walk out with your liscense the same day. If the prints come back from the FBI with something against you they revoke your permit. All for less than $20.

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