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Old January 2, 2002, 01:51 PM   #1
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Wash Times: Maryland gun folly

http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed...102-533074.htm


Maryland gun folly
House Editorial


Published 1/2/02


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*****Maryland's new law requiring prospective handgun buyers to sit through a two-hour video ostensibly about "gun safety" before they may take possession of their firearms is all about hassling would-be gun buyers — not curbing crime or reducing the number of accidental deaths and injuries involving guns.
*****The new law took effect yesterday and is merely the latest impediment ginned-up by anti-gun lawmakers in Maryland — a state notorious for making life difficult for everyone but criminals. Already on the books, for example, is a requirement that all handgun buyers also purchase a gun lock along with each weapon they buy. The new law merely adds to the existing roadblocks by making it an ordeal for an honest, law-abiding citizen to obtain a firearm. The obvious hope is that fewer honest, law-abiding people will possess guns — notwithstanding their constitutional rights and the fact that such busy-body edicts as Maryland's gun-safety-video requirement do absolutely nothing to counteract criminal activity. "It is one of the most meaningless bits of legislation ever passed by the Maryland legislature," said Carl Roy, president of the Maryland Small Arms Range. "A cadaver could come in here and watch the video, and it would not make a difference," he told this newspaper's Mary Shaffrey.
*****Those who endured stilted, out-of-date traffic safety and/or sex education videos in high school will understand the irrelevance and uselessness of such "learning tools." What works are tough anti-crime measures such as Project Exile, which come down hard on those who misuse handguns for illegal and criminal purposes. What doesn't work — at least, if the object is to address and curb gun-related violence — is pestering ordinary citizens who have never misused a firearm with reams of red tape and myriad bureaucratic requirements, such as a tedious, two-hour "safety" video.
*****Maryland should follow the example of such states as Virginia, which streamlined its concealed-carry law and adopted instant background checks. That way, gun purchases by law-abiding citizens can be completed in just one day. After all, law-abiding gun owners never have been and never will be the problem.

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Old January 2, 2002, 01:57 PM   #2
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http://www.sunspot.net/news/local/ba...s01jan01.story

Pistol safety on the books

Law requires buyers of handguns, other arms to take course; 'A lot of ... dos and don'ts'; 45-minute video is part of program, but testing isn't
By Ivan Penn
Sun Staff

January 1, 2002

As part of the governor's gun-control efforts, Marylanders seeking to purchase handguns will first be required to take a two-hour safety training course under a state law that takes effect today.

More than 1,000 gun owners have taken the new course, state officials said, which includes a 45-minute in-classroom video but which by law does not require testing.

Some longtime gun enthusiasts have criticized the course as a waste of time, but even many seasoned veterans will have to take the course if they purchase a new handgun or other regulated firearm, such as an assault rifle.

"Those who have no training at all find it interesting and informative," said Michael Mullin, assistant range master for the state Police Training Commission. "Some people say it's too simplistic. They receive a lot of safety dos and don'ts."

The video gives instruction on such subjects as trigger locks, properly storing a firearm inside a house and keeping the gun out of reach of children. Law enforcement officers, military personnel and holders of state permits to carry a handgun are not required to take the course. It is free to all who are required to take it.

Gun-control advocates said they had pushed for a tougher safety course for those purchasing handguns but reached a compromise that significantly reduced requirements for the program. They had sought such requirements as mandatory testing as part of the training.

Hunters, for instance, are required to take a minimum 10-hour class, pass a 50-question written test and demonstrate safe firearm handling before they can get a hunting license in Maryland.

"We would have liked to have a longer, more extensive training course," said Ginni Wolf, director of Marylanders Against Handgun Abuse. "We started out with a lot more, and it got shot down. This was the best we could come up with where everybody was happy.

"Everything was geared to protecting children."

Gov. Parris N. Glendening pushed the training course as part of his Responsible Gun Safety Act during the 2000 General Assembly as a way to curb gun violence. The law contains some of the nation's toughest provisions, including a requirement that manufacturers equip handguns with built-in trigger locks. It also requires firearms makers to provide ballistic information about each handgun to state police to help them solve crimes.

The General Assembly approved legislation last year requiring every public school student to take a gun-safety class. But Glendening vetoed the measure - a compromise between gun-control advocates and opponents - after teachers complained that the class might have the effect of encouraging students to use firearms, rather than discouraging them from handling them.

At least 25 other states require gun-safety training before the purchase of a firearm, according to The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, a Washington group that promotes gun control. About a half-dozen states require training in firearm use before purchase.

Although a tough political battle was fought over the governor's gun-safety package, minimal objection has appeared to the safety education requirement.

"Nobody is going to object to more training," said Sanford Abrams, vice president of Maryland Licensed Firearms Dealers Association Inc. "There's nothing revolutionary in safety training. It's just basic, common-sense safety rules."

Maryland residents can take the course through the Maryland Police Training Commission at locations throughout the state, or they can take the class from other certified organizations and agencies. Abrams said 80 of his organization's 125 dealers have signed up to offer the course, which likely will keep waiting time for gun purchases to a minimum.

Last year, about 20,000 people bought 30,000 handguns in Maryland. Baltimore City and Anne Arundel, Baltimore, Montgomery and Prince George's counties accounted for more than half of those purchases. Gun purchasers are required to take the course only once, even if they buy more weapons later.

Although some see it as an elementary course, Abrams said he does not hear many objections to sitting through the 45-minute video.

"It can't hurt," he said. "But it's probably not enough training for some people."


The Police Training Commission has scheduled its next courses for tomorrow and Jan. 9. Information: 410-552-6300 or the state's firearms safety Web site at www.mdgunsafety.com.
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Old January 2, 2002, 05:40 PM   #3
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"The General Assembly approved legislation last year requiring every public school student to take a gun-safety class. But Glendening vetoed the measure - a compromise between gun-control advocates and opponents - after teachers complained that the class might have the effect of encouraging students to use firearms, rather than discouraging them from handling them."

Just like sex-ed encourages sexual activity. Sure. Idiots. Teachers, no less.

They think they got it bad, they oughta try the PRK. We get to watch a video too. Or take a written test, DMV-style, in order to get a "Basic Firearms Safety Certificate". You don't have to if you've got a hunting license, or a DD-214. But hey, even that's not good enough now. Whining Liberals complain that it's too easy to "sleep through a video", so now we're getting licensing next year.

Wonderful.

Stupid State.
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Old January 4, 2002, 02:12 PM   #4
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http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20011231-19801480.htm
The Washington Times
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New gun safety law under fire
Mary Shaffrey
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


Published 12/31/01


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*****A new gun-control law that takes effect tomorrow will force Maryland customers to watch a two-hour movie on gun safety before buying a firearm — a requirement that draws hoots from critics, who say it will do nothing to prevent gun crime or violence.
*****"It is one of the most meaningless bits of legislation ever passed by the Maryland legislature, [Democratic Gov. Parris N.] Glendening and his gun-control people" said Carl Roy, president of the Maryland Small Arms Range Inc. in Upper Marlboro, which drew a large number of practice shooters yesterday.
*****"A cadaver could come in here and watch the video, and it would not make a difference," he said.
*****Law-enforcement officers and those in the military or with honorable discharges do not have to take what the new law describes as a "firearms safety training course."
*****There is no test after the video and no time allotted for follow-up questions, which is one of the faults of the law, said Michael D. Cassidy, a firearms instructor who works at the range. He is certified to teach gun safety by the National Rifle Association.
*****"When I finish my course, I easily have 20 or 30 basic questions that people ask," said Mr. Cassidy. "This [law] is just a waste of time."
*****As of yesterday, Mr. Roy, who sells guns and ammunition at his range, said the state had not given him any information about how or where the video will be shown, or what the video will teach — or what the range instructors are supposed to say if the job of showing the video falls on their shoulders.
*****Maryland has one of the more restrictive gun-ownership policies in the country, including regulations on gun casings, gun locks and, now, purchasing requirements.
*****One shooting enthusiast said the old expression about the road to ruin being paved with good intentions applies to Maryland's gun laws.
*****"The law [already] says you are required to buy a lock for your handgun, but they don't show you how to use it, and for all they know, once you leave you can just keep the lock in the plastic bag and never put it on the gun — what good does that do?" said Roxanne Fus of Silver Spring, who was target shooting with her family yesterday.
*****"Or you can just come back the next day and return [the handgun lock] and get your money back," said Danielle Fus, 19, who joined her parents and sister at the range for recreational shooting.
*****Mr. Roy confirmed that Miss Fus was correct. The law requires only that customers buy the locks at the same time they buy their guns. It does not require them to keep the locks.
*****In addition to this bill, the Maryland legislature this year overwhelmingly passed a law, which Mr. Glendening vetoed, that would have made Maryland the first state to require public schools to teach gun safety from kindergarten through 12th grade.
*****The bill stipulated that educators would work with the NRA and other gun organizations to create gun-safety courses for middle and high school students, including taking them to local gun ranges.
*****"This bill would create a clear appearance of the state encouraging young people to handle weapons and potentially furthering their interest in a time when we are trying to fight the scourge of gun violence," Mr. Glendening said at the time.
*****This is the type of course that Mr. Roy and Miss Fus said was needed.
***** When she bought her first gun, Miss Fus took a monthlong course at the Izzak Walton League, which required her to attend classes once a week for several hours to familiarize herself with the gun.
*****Some gun enthusiasts, however, say a two-hour movie is better than nothing.
*****"While there is no interaction, it's still more information than you would have had before," said Steve Moskowitz of College Park.



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Old January 4, 2002, 02:39 PM   #5
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A new gun-control law that takes effect tomorrow will force Maryland customers to watch a two-hour movie on gun safety before buying a firearm
Actually, as one of the later editorials posted says it is actually a 45min tape.

It went into effect 1/1 or 1/2 (I've been told both), but at anyrate it is currently in effect. However, as of last night (1/3) NONE of the gunshops I went to had yet received the video, making the new law effectively a temporary gun ban (except for cops and military personnel).



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Law-enforcement officers and those in the military or with honorable discharges do not have to take
A bit of an annoyance to me. Why not include Medical and General Discharges? Those with Dishonorable Discharges are ALREADY banned from buying guns. If you have a General Discharge but can show weapons training on your DD214, does that not show weapons proficiency? I thought the new law was to insure a basic knowlege of gun safety, not to insure character. Not to mention, my General Discharge after Basic Training due to a bad ankle DOES NOT show bad character!

Also, why does a 3 hr safety class I took a year ago from a professional gun trainer not count because it didn't include a 45 min tape that the state hadn't yet produced? Why not allow NRA training courses, argueably the best training courses available? Of course all Marylanders know the answer to that last one- the NRA is evil .

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The law [already] says you are required to buy a lock for your handgun
Another ridiculous MD law. One must buy a trigger lock for all handguns, even if it already has a built in lock , like all new Taurus guns.

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More than 1,000 gun owners have taken the new course, state officials said, which includes a 45-minute in-classroom video but which by law does not require testing
I wonder where the Baltimore Sun got this info. If true I'd like them to tell me where I can see the video so I can buy a gun since ALL the shops and ranges I've checked with don't have the video yet!

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The General Assembly approved legislation last year requiring every public school student to take a gun-safety class. But Glendening vetoed the measure - a compromise between gun-control advocates and opponents - after teachers complained that the class might have the effect of encouraging students to use firearms, rather than discouraging them from handling them
As I recall the all the controversy was because some of the training materials came from, GASP, the NRA. Don't want the little tykes exposed to propaganda about guns . Of course the contributions to the curriculum from HCI were perfectly ok.


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Old January 4, 2002, 03:13 PM   #6
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you should be able to take the class at the Silverado Gunshow this weekend

i took it there in October

make sure you take some no doze before hand

heres the format

Tell em what the course requirements are
Tell em what the course requirements are
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Tell em Coopers rules

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Tell em what the course requirements are
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Tell em Sarah Brady lies

Tell em what the course requirements are
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Tell em Un credited Eddie Eagle

Tell em what the course requirements are
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Tell em Coopers rules

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by the time its over you really know what the course requirements are
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Old January 4, 2002, 03:17 PM   #7
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here is the back of the
Firearms safety training course certificate of completion:
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"This bill would create a clear appearance of the state encouraging young people to handle weapons and potentially furthering their interest in a time when we are trying to fight the scourge of gun violence," Mr. Glendening said at the time.
Revolting how he connects youth interest in firearms with violence.
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Old January 4, 2002, 08:01 PM   #9
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Revolting how he connects youth interest in firearms with violence.
Well, of course. They'll become interested in guns. They'll buy them when they get old enough and thus the violent crime rate will go up. Silly gun owner, you did know that guns cause crime didn't you?:barf:
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