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Old October 26, 2000, 11:02 AM   #1
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Was looking into getting one but couldn't find any? Can;t afford a custom so was looking at a NIB or used. Anybody?? How much do they cost? How about a conversion?

Also what are you guys opinion on this round?

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Old October 26, 2000, 11:06 AM   #2
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The reason you can't find one is because there were only a handful made. Less than two dozen, in the case of the Combat Target model. At the time Shooting Times magazine displayed one on their cover, it was one of only two 9x23 Colt's in existence. Never got off the ground, from what I understand.
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Old October 26, 2000, 11:25 AM   #3
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SPRINGFIELD ARMORY makes these as a regular pistol or a CUSTOM SHOP gun or so I'm led to believe. I have seen 'em both ways for sure.TM
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Old October 26, 2000, 12:16 PM   #4
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You can get a 38 Super and have a 9x23 Schuemann bull barrel put in it, the magazine are the same, Schuemann barrels are fully supported in 9x23, and you will need to have the frame milled for the fully supported barrel. You will also have to change the extractor. The bull barrel will help alot with recoil. www.brownells.com has the barrels, #836-300-509 this is a Wilson/Nowlin ramp.

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Old October 26, 2000, 04:31 PM   #5
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Springfield and Colt both made a few thousand (5000 each I think) of basic 9x23s. These models were discontinued the next year and at one point were selling below $400.

The reason? Winchester's lawsuit with John Ricco, www.classicpistol.com , attempting to sort out the patents on 9x23.

Now of course the guns are hard to find and prices are high.

There is no need for a fully ramped barrel if you are using 9x23 Winchester brass. BarSto makes one of the better if not the best 9x23 barrel. At least Dick Heinie and I think so. Ramped or unramped either can be supported in the web area of the case.

9mm Govt models and 38 super Govt models are easy conversions to 9x23.

Dane Burns www.9x23win.com



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Old October 26, 2000, 07:56 PM   #6
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Try this web page.. http://www.classicpistol.com ..click on the 9x23 for the info you are looking for. One of the owners designed the 9x23.They should be able to answer any questions you may have..
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Old October 26, 2000, 09:41 PM   #7
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Sorry but I would not use a unsupported barrel in my open class gun.
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Old October 26, 2000, 10:19 PM   #8
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So what do I need to convert a 9mm or 38super 1911 to a 9x23? Can one do it themselves or is it really hard and a smith needed? Also Mr. Burns if you read this do you mind me e-mailing you for info?

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Old October 27, 2000, 03:51 AM   #9
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No problem sending private emails, be happy to help, rdburns@cnw.com

Colt thought an unramped barrel was just fine for their version of the 9x23. Helps to know the difference between unsupported and unramped.

I don't build race guns any more and have had no problems with dozens of 9x23 carry guns shooting major loads from unramped barrels.
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Old October 27, 2000, 10:56 PM   #10
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I have two(2) 9x23's. One a stock Colt 9x23, the other built using a slide I bought from Dane on a old GI frame I had lying about and using a Colt barrel. I have had no problems with either gun. I have even used the Starline 9mm Super Comp brass for medium power loads with no problems (125 gn bullets at 1400 vs the 1500 I can get with Winchester brass) You can look for Colt guns, and expect to pay in the neighborhood of $625, or try to find a Springfield for about $525-550. Not really a whole lot of other options, unless you want to employ someone like Dane, or do the work yourself. You could try to find a Kimber in 38 Super and throw a 9x23 barrel in there along with a new spring. I'm using 18.5lb springs in mine. I'm sure Dane has an opinion on the matter. Semper Fi...Ken
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